Ares SCR Is Now New York City Approved

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Good news for New York City gun enthusiasts, the Ares SCR “conventionalized” AR-15 has been approved for sale in New York City, under their more restrictive set of laws. Guns.com has an article on the approval:

Ares Defense is now offering special low-rise iron sights for their SCR rifles. The SCR is a new “traditional” assembled lower receiver for AR-15-pattern uppers that uses “featureless” straight or Monte-Carlo-typerifle stock.

The SCR, or Sport Configurable Rifle, has a lot of appeal. Not only is it light and simple compared to standard complete AR-15 lowers, its traditional ergonomics are better suited for certain types of shooting, such as from a benchrest or blind.

Of course, no one’s overlooking the fact that because of its old-school stylings, the SCR breezes right past restrictions that were doubtlessly leveled against the AR-15 and other rifles based on appearances — giving shooters the benefit of ARs in locations where they are otherwise prohibited, whether it’s local law or hunting regulation.

One area where the AR market isn’t strong is low-height iron sights. Although there are a few out there for H&K and other flattop rifles with higher-than-average rails, the SCR requires users to put their sight plane directly on top of the rifle, which is significantly closer to the upper than with standard AR lowers.

Ares is addressing that now with their new low-rise iron sight sets. Ares has two, with the rear sight pictured above as well as with an even lower-profile Micro minimalist rear sight. Both use the same fixedfront sight designed to work with drop-in handguards like on their factory featureless uppers.

The SCR is one of the latest attempts to make a “civilized” AR-15, with more domestic-looking features, chiefly eliminating the distinctive pistol grip. With low-profile sights, I think it may become a hit in ban states.

It is only a matter of time before someone tries to mount the ARES AMG-2 upper onto an SCR lower, which if it works would create the most identity-confused black rifle of all time.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Swarf

    I like it.

    I know they’re practical, but I hate the look of pistol grip rifles.

    Not because they’re evil– that’s a reason to like them as far as I’m concerned– but because they’re ugly and boring. To me.

    • WFDT

      I agree. A rifle should have some wood on it.

      • iksnilol

        The guys who made the Sauer STR and similar target rifles thought the opposite. They thought: “A rifle should have some metal on it”.

  • Nimrod

    I really like the conventional look of the ARES SCR. I got to handle one at the NRA meetings. Very nice set up and would not only be a good “ban state” rifle but a good low profile rifle to travel around the country with in an RV just in case you found yourself in a ban area. The last time I checked one could just buy the lower/bolt carrier and use your own upper.

  • Steve Rothaug

    I never understood why they didn’t come with sights to begin with. So, this is good.

  • john

    It looks interesting/weird/cool. I would own one if the price was right.

  • john

    Wait, is the buffer tube hidden in the stock? Is there no buffer tube? If not, how is the recoil?

    • Riot

      Its a bit like a FAL

      • Ethan

        I thought that too – I think the front sight profile gives it that look.

    • Vitsaus

      No buffer tube, it has a proprietary bolt carrier similar to that of the FAL

      • Ethan

        It still has a Buffer tube – its just smaller and at an angle down into the stock like a semi-auto shotguns. Bolt carrier is shortened and uses a linkage-tail like a shotgun, but still uses a standard bolt i believe.

    • ghost

      OMG!! Recoil!!!!! (could not resist).

  • Old Fart

    With some imagination it kinda looks like an M1 Carbine reborn.

    • Ethan

      Now chamber it in 300BLK and it really will be.
      A short, lightweight handy 30cal carbine – what’s not to love?

      • Marty Ewer

        Couldn’t one just rebarrel it?

      • Old Fart

        Only so and so. I’ll stick to PWS uppers and KAC lowers. 300BLK is definitely the future if the price will drop to the same level as .223. If it stays in the same Dior price range as SPC II it will go the same route as the latter.
        What’s not to like? The political bending over backwards surrounding it…

        • JSmath

          That’s a big if, Old Fart, but I’d appreciate it just as well. 556 still has its place, though.

          • Old Fart

            +1

      • Nimrod

        You can use any AR upper on the lower. So buy just the lower and put a 300 blk upper on it.

        • GearHeadTony

          I don’t think you can just throw any upper on to that lower (where would the BCG go when you fire it). I believe they use a proprietary bolt carrier, which you could swap whatever bolt you like into.

          • John Daniels

            The only special part in the upper half is the carrier, with a pivoting tail.

      • Anonymous

        What’s not to love? The special-snowflake, flavor-of-the-week, gimmick cartridge that was introduced right in the middle of the worst ammunition shortage since the Second World War, that’s what.

        • Ethan

          Well lets see, prior to 300BLK…

          If I wanted a subsonic cartridge with decent balistics, I had to get a rare and ultra-expensive MP5SD or similar 9mm platform. $1,000 minimum.

          If I wanted a cartridge that gave full house carbine ballistics out of an SBR, I had to build a 7.62x39mm SBR fraken-AR that was again, expensive, and generally unreliable. Another $1,000 minimum when you take the special mags into account.

          If I wanted a 30 cal option for my AR to let me hunt in states that don’t consider 5.56 to be ethical for deer or hogs, I had to buy a new bolt, all new mags, and a very expensive and specialized upper in some semi-exotic caliber. $800 minimum.

          If I wanted a cartridge that had more 30% power than 5.56 out of the AR platform without reducing capacity, there were no options. Read it – none.

          If I wanted to shoot cast bullets out of my AR, realistically there were no options.

          A 300BLK does all that and more for $200 – the price of a new barrel.

          Not useful to you? No problem, just don’t buy it.

        • Anon. E Maus

          I wish you .300BLK haters would just go away. It’s a great cartridge which is here to stay.

  • Martin Grønsdal

    If you give me this, and an average AR15, I will shoot just as fast and accurately?

    I can see why one is banned, the other not.

    • UnrepentantLib

      Back in college (long, long ago) I shot on the ROTC small-bore rifle team, with a Winchester Model 52D. Not a great shot, not bad either. When I got to ROTC summer camp, where they just switched to the M16 the year before, I found it took some relearning to shoot with the AR pistol grip. Don’t know if anyone else had that experience.

      • Ethan

        I always thought “traditional” rifle stocks “pointed” more naturally, but were not as versatile for all situations.

  • MR

    I want one, put some smooth hand guards on it (MagPul’s would probably work), then pair it with one of those smooth Torkmag 50rd magazines. I think it’d look similar to an M2 carbine, just my opinion.

    • Ethan

      I think someone needs to develop a “traditional” looking forend. Just because its black and highly functional doesn’t mean it can’t be elegant. I’ll talk to my industrial design buddy about this..

      • marathag

        Needs nice looking walnut

        • Ethan

          That would be really nice – but then the Ares stock would need redone in the same. I’d settle for a black synthetic forend that had more traditional hunting contours. Nothing wrong with quad rails, it’d just be nice to see someone offer something more… refined.

      • Anon. E Maus

        How about something vaguely AR-18 shaped?

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I feel much better.
    How could anyone ever shoot up a school with a friendly looking gun like that?
    I’ll bet Mother Theresa would pack one.

  • Vitsaus

    I think this was ingenious. The thought into solving a problem is admirable. I kind of like it, kind of hate it. I like it for how handy it looks, like a mini 14 without the mini 14 baggage. I just hate what it represents.

  • Holdfast_II

    Does anyone know where to buy just the lower? I’ve got a spare Stag Arms upper looking for a home.

    • I could be wrong, but….

      Not sure it would be compatible, they have to do something funky with the bolt. Not the lack of a standard buffer tube.

      • I still could be wrong…

        er…”Note the lack…”

        • Ethan

          I believe the bolt CARRIER is shortened, but it still takes a standard bolt. Worth looking into..

          • Esdee

            Standard bolt is correct

      • Raven

        They use a proprietary bolt carrier (not 100% sure, but I think it takes standard bolts). Works with standard uppers though, just gotta have the bolt group set up with the rat-tail carrier.

    • Cymond

      There are Ares SCR lowers on gunbroker, and probably other places online. They aren’t cheap because the lowers are so proprietary, and they come with a special bolt carrier.

  • John

    Huh. This looks like what the Mini-14 would have, or should have, evolved into.

    If it’s fully AR-15 compatible, I’d seriously think about getting one.

    • marathag

      except for Buffer tube, that I wouldn’t miss

      An AR without that -boing- noise would be nice

      • Marty Ewer

        It uses a recoil system very similar to a Benelli.

  • hking

    The sights from the CZ Scorpion Evo would work pretty good on one of these I bet.

  • BattleshipGrey

    How nice of them to approve something that’s already been deemed “50 state compliant”.

  • Maxpwr

    Which state will ban it first after someone commits a crime with one?

    • Vitsaus

      Or which state will ban it “before some one can commit a crime with one” is more the question. It would make for a clever slippery slope to go after the traditional sporting rifles by claiming that this is just a weapon of war disguised as a sport gun, wolf in sheep’s clothing. Ban it, then go after the Benelli R1s and BARs, 10/22s and mini 14s. The antis with less of a filter will admit that they want no guns, not just no “military” ones.

  • Porty1119

    That’s actually a pretty nice looking rifle. It’d make a great truck gun for the right price.

  • Southpaw89

    I like it, not even as a last resort due to stupid laws, I just like it. I find it much more visually appealing than the average AR-15.

    • Nashvone

      Wouldn’t that just piss off the antis? Create a new style of a popular gun to get around a stupid law and everyone likes it on its own merits. I would buy one.

  • patrickiv

    Where the hell does the bolt carrier go?

  • Paladin

    I don’t think it would actually be possible to mount an AMG 2 on the SCR, due to the proprietary BCGs used.

    • noob

      Is the Ares AMG2 the same thing as the Ares Shrike? Did they ever deliver any of those to the customers who pre-ordered them?

  • Marty Ewer

    I don’t like the times that this firearm represents. But I do like this firearm. 🙂 A 300 BLK barrel would really make this.

  • GearHead

    I really want to do a chop mod of this with the magpul 870 stock & match with a moe dissaptor upper.

  • ghost

    It looks like a rifle. They don’t know how to put sights on at the factory?

  • echelon

    Good news slaves! Your masters approve! Rejoice and be glad.

  • John Superson

    Um keltec?

  • ghost

    I like it, I like it!! No, really, I am just not convinced every rifle has to be an M-16 clone. A nice clean un-busy look. 5.56 would do just fine in this. Assuming it proves to be reliable. I never liked a lot of bells and whistles. I do like 20 rd mags.