1911A1s for the CMP?

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A congressman by the name of Mike Rogers representing Alabama is proposing a plan to take almost 100,000 1911A1s currently in storage with the U.S. Army and transfer them over to the CMP South Store in Anniston, Alabama. If this move works, it’ll be an amazing moment for 1911 collectors across the country as more will come into the market at much better prices than they are currently at. However, they most likely won’t be in their original wartime condition as the CMP will refurbish, replace parts, and bring to working order the pistols that have been in storage for so long (probably since the 1980s as the M9 was phased in). Regardless, the market price for Garands today is in the $800-1200 range and CMP sells their basic Garands for about $500. Taking a quick look at Gunbroker, prices for World War Two era 1911A1s start at $600 and go into the thousands. Even if CMP Anniston sells them for $100 below the minimal market price at $500 out the door, it’s stilly a pretty great deal. In addition, (someone correct me if I’m wrong about this) but the last military contract 1911A1 rolled off the Ithaca assembly line in 1945 (serial number 2660318 ). That means every legitimate military contract 1911A1 in storage was either made before or during World War Two. Unlike the Garands sold by CMP, which have productions runs from during and after the war, making some of the post war rifles less valued.

The original news article has this to say-

Congressman Rogers says it’s a win-win because the pistols are placed in very capable hands at the Civilian Marksmanship Program and it also saves taxpayers roughly $200,000 per year.

The M1911A1 pistol was once the standard sidearm for U.S. armed forces. Rogers says a little over 8,000 of the 100,000 pistols were sold to law enforcement and transferred to foreign countries for a small price. The rest are in storage.

The CMP will inspect, grade, and prepare the pistols to be sold. It will also reimburse the Army for any costs associated with moving the firearms.

Congressman Rogers announced the plan after the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2016. It’s part of the House Armed Services Committee.

Of course, CMP is chartered by Congress and thus tax and FFL exempt. However, this also means there are a few more qualifications a person has to meet before being eligible to purchase a firearm from them. These include proof of firearms activity/training, being affiliated with a CMP club, and passing a background check, among other requirements. Veterans, active duty are exempt from the typical requirements. If you’re interested in reading more about the actual process check out this earlier article.

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Just so everyone is clear, the pistols in question are 1911A1s which entered service after World War One with a number of modifications to the original 1911 handgun. This image was taken from M1911 forums.



Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, and have had a teenie tiny photo that appeared in GQ. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

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  • Rog Uinta

    Well, the vintage 1911 market would sure take a hit from this. Not that that’s a bad thing.

    • Vitsaus

      The snobs will just turn their noses at CMP 1911s and try to dismiss them has having less provenance than the one their granddad smuggled back home in ’46. A lot of the collector market prices are inflated anyway, I don’t think it will bring down the prices much or at all from those already in circulation.

  • John

    It would be cool. But the thing is that a 1911 pistol has a little more relevancy than a Garand rifle today. I can see some fearmongers screaming about guns falling into the wrong hands, and more rules put into place as a result.

    • Grindstone50k

      They already are.

  • Grindstone50k

    STOP TEASING ME AND JUST MAKE THIS HAPPEN ALREADY

  • 3XLwolfshirt

    wantwantwantwantwant

  • A Judd

    Shut up and take my money…….. on a more serious note, I wonder if the king will allow this to happen?

    • jamezb

      …He just might.
      Honestly, so far… and that’s 6 years so far…he’s not seemed anywhere near as interested in anti-gun issues as it seemed like he was going to be.

      • Tim Pearce

        While I’m hoping that it’s a matter of the Democratic Party realizing that there *are* left-wing gun owners, and plenty of them, I think it’s really just been that he knows he won’t get Congress to back him if he pushes for anything serious.
        But, yeah, until the Universal Background Checks push, his only actions on guns had been positive (though, only because they were riders on bills he wouldn’t dream of vetoing).

  • FrenchKiss

    Can California gun buyers get this? Or is it considered off list?

    • Vitsaus

      Interstate commerce is irrelevant to CA gun laws. It should be fine for CA as the guns would likely be consider C&R, therefore exempt from the roster.

      • Stompy

        They still have to go to an FFL or C&R in CA just like the Garands do now. Pre Jan 1st 2015 Garands could be shipped right to the individual no FFL required in CA.

  • Jerry the Geek

    This would be a “must have” for some of us. For me, I already own a 1911 (not the A!, but thew original 1911) which serial number indicates it was made by Colt the WW1 era. This would be a good companion for my collection, and probably more shootable than my older pistol.

    So … yeah, I’m drooling all over my keyboard here.

  • chris lynch

    Need so bad. Anniston is only 2hrs up the road.

  • RickH

    I didn’t feel like researching, so, why does the army still have these?

    • jamezb

      If you knew all the stuff they have put away for a rainy day, you’d get a eye twitch that would last years…

      • Fun fact: The crazy stuff they have isnt limited to ordnance. Did you know they have a museum not open to the public that houses Hitler’s original artwork?

      • Canadian Vet

        Canadians do the same, and now and again they have a stroke of genius. When I was in Afghanistan, the Browning HP I was issued looked brand-new but a closer look showed it was WW2 production that had been kept in war stock and I was probably one of the first to be issued that particular pistol.

    • LCON

      part of the Reason the DOD never passes a full and complete Audit is they still have warehouses some where full of WW2 boot. the Pentagon is the Worse hoarder they keep everything all you have to do is look hard enough from WW2 tanks to moth eaten Dough boy uniforms it’s some where out there… heck if there was a alien crash at Roswell the UFO is probably lost in the back of a giant file cabinet forgotten collecting dust.

    • Tim Pearce

      I think it’s as simple as “nobody gave them permission to stop having them.” One of the local police departments has the same problem with guns in their evidence locker. They literally have no current recourse but to store them for all of eternity.

  • jamezb

    OMG I’m light-headed – Oh great gun spirit… let this slide past the haters and into my safe…

  • idahoguy101

    Senator Diane Feinstein persuaded the Obama Administration to not allow the reimportantion of M1 Carbines on the technicality that they have standard 15 round magazines. If the next President isn’t Anti-gun I’d expect the Carbines to be sold here.

    • Anon. E Maus

      In the worst of cases, couldn’t it be arranged for those Carbines to be broken down in parts and all but the receivers being brought into the country as spare parts?

      Sure, it wouldn’t be whole weapons, but a lot of old worn out Carbines in the country already could have parts replaced for new functionality.

  • Fuad John Khoury

    Theres no valid reason why m14’s and colt m16a1’s converted to semi aren’t available through the CMP. Why arent we fighting for those instead of begging for relic pistols.

    • Pat

      Longstanding ATF ruling…
      Once a machine gun always a machine gun.
      They would need to demill the receiver. Although I would be interested in an m16a1 upper.

      Our efforts are better spent on low hanging NFA fruit, SBR’s and silencers.

      • Ben

        They could always just crush the receivers and sell the rest as a parts kit. No FFL required.

    • Because federal law. It sucks, but it is what it is.

    • James Massman

      I carried an M14 for four years during the 60’s… NOT ONCE was I allowed to even set it up for full auto. Why? Because it was uncontrollable, that’s why. Aim at a person’s foot. 1st round – hit foot, 2nd round – maybe hit head, 3rd round – hit aircraft or UFO!!
      That rifle (I actually carried three different ones) was incredibly accurate out to 500 yds. when used properly, but worthless on full auto…
      2 cents
      Jim

  • John Yossarian

    What’s coolest about the oldest of the M1911’s is the blued finish pre-1941.

    I’ve considered buying a Norinco, just to get a good deal on a blued 1911, but couldn’t stomach seeing “Made in China” stamped on America’s most iconic design.

  • quraina

    Only 100,000 units? They’ll sell out in three months.

  • Biff

    Just to throw a little fuel on the fire, I saw a couple of the 8,000 that were sold to local law enforcement agencies a few years back (I had a friendly fellow gun-guy relationship with our local chief, who obtained a few just because he could) and they were very nice. I’m guessing they were military arsenal refurbished at some point, but they were in immaculate, crisp condition, ready for reissue, not worn out looking at all.

  • Robert L. Rice

    In 1960,I bought 7 ..45 cal 1911A1 pistols from a pawn shop,in Phoenix Alabama,for $45.00 each,I bought A browning 9mm,hi-power,,in the PX in Okinawa,for $27.00, times sure do change.