POTD: Keserű HDMGC (Less Lethal Gun)

Gabor, of KaliberInfo.hu, sent us a photo of an interesting less-lethal rubber bullet firing gun from Hungary. He writes …

Keserű HDMGC (serial no: 001, prototype): special non-lethal weapon (non-firearm) according to Hungarian gun laws.

It is basically a big revolver, 10- or 7-shot (on the picture) cylinder is rotated by the front grip (pump-action).

The trigger is DAO.

It fires 18 mm (cca. 12 ga) rubber bullets, with the energy of separately loaded 9 mm R Knall (.380 R Blanc) blank ammunition.

Muzzle energy is cca. 100-120 joule, like the LEO 12-ga rubber baton rounds.

Someone needs to take this design and make it lethal 🙂


Steve Johnson

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  • John

    The foregrip would work a lot better if it faced forward. Just saying.

    • SP mclaughlin

      That’s standard on Hungarian AMD-65’s.

      • John

        Yeah. But this design uses cylinder magazines instead of bananas and a forward-facing foregrip will help aid in pumping the weapon.

        • noob

          hmm it looks like the forward grip is the same mould as the pistol grip. I’m sure that it could be made the right way around by unscrewing two bolts.

          • Kovacs Jeno

            yes, the grip could be reversed, but the “gun” was intentionally made to look like “AMD-65-ish”.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    If I lived in Hungary I’d prefer them to go ahead and use lethal ammo on me.

  • This is actually a pretty reasonable SD weapon if you couldn’t own a firearm. I’d certainly prefer this to a baseball bat or a knife in a home defense application.

    Obviously not as ideal as a real firearm, but glad to see they are making something work within their limitations.

  • MR

    I like the old-school CAR stock. As far as making it lethal, like anything, it’s all in the shot placement.

  • Zebra Dun

    That is the most lethal, non lethal firearm I’ve ever seen!

  • Anon. E Maus

    Looks like a 40k ork tried to build an AMD-65.