Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • ILikeCats

    PTRS-41 Anti-Tank Rifle

  • May

    PTRS-41, designed by Sergei Siminov in the early 1940s as an anti-tank rifle. Fires the 14.5x115mm cartridge from a 47in barrel at about 3,000 ft/s. Uses a 5 round fixed magazine and en bloc clips. Mechanically it’s very similar to an SKS, just gigantic.

    • Wetcoaster

      Or more accurately, the SKS is very similar to a tiny PTRS since the SKS came later.

      Seen one or two for sale up here in Canada along with a handful of PTRDs, but never seen ammo available – I think the main issue is that most 14.5mm ammo made since WW2 has been for HMGs and tend to have either HE or incendiary components, which makes importation impossible.

      To be fair, the 14.5mm really blurs the line between HMG and light cannon (WP 12.7 x 108mm and NATO 12.7 x 99 BMG are always referred to as MGs, but the WW2-era 15mm MG151 is usually referred to as a cannon, so who knows)

      • Kivaari

        Isn’t the difference when the gun can be hauled by one and shot by one and doesn’t need a vehicle to mount it to. Just my guess.

        • Giolli Joker

          Well, no. Actually the designation, purely academic, is usually based on the caliber. 20mm is considered already a cannon round, no longer a small arms caliber, yet it is used in a few anti-materiel sniper rifles.
          I could be wrong but I’d say that in the movie “The Jackal” Bruce Willis character was going to used a remote controlled 14.5x114mm gun. I can’t remember if they were calling it cannon or machine gun (well, not that it would matter, it’s just Hollywood).

          • Kivaari

            All the shoulder fired AT rifles I know of were called rifles, not cannons. It could be like the AK47 rifles/carbines to us, but to others they are considered sub machine guns. China and Russia market them as SMGs. That conflicts with how we rate them. Like a German MP, machine pistol, that to us is a sub machine gun. Colt even called the XM177 a sub machine gun.

          • Giolli Joker

            Yep, definitions can vary. In the Western world usually 20mm is the limit under which we are in small arms field. Therefore an automatic gun in 12.7mm is a HMG and a similar one in 20mm is a (light) cannon. Anti-materiel 20mm rifles are kind of in a grey area, under the classification based on the caliber they’d be cannons, but, as you said, they’re usually universally recognized as rifles.
            At the end it’s a purely academic definition, I don’t think that it really matters in “the real world”.

            “Here’s your knife. – Sword. – Whatever.”

            (BTW, I think the Croatian RT20 carries the word cannon in its name as Rucni Top should mean “hand cannon”).

          • iksnilol

            Yup, “Rucni Top” means “Hand Cannon”

          • Wetcoaster

            There’s the Lahti L-39 as well for 20mm rifles

          • Giolli Joker

            Sure, there are a few… Anzio, Denel NTW and others.

        • valorius

          cannons typically fire HE ammo vs HMG ammo which does not.

          12.7mm vs 20mm is the typical western cutoff between the two.

  • Vitsaus

    Obviously not “real’s since its Russian military and no one is disarming a guy thats got a loaded weapon with safety off pointed at his face.

  • Barry

    Russian training for possible invasion of zombie ghost tanks in your back yard. He handled the recoil pretty well, I’ll say.

    • Southpaw89

      Well it is a 46lb rifle, all that weight probably absorbs most of the recoil. I’d say the biggest feat is being able to fire it from the shoulder at all.

      • iksnilol

        I don’t know if I am thinking right here:

        it weighs about double that of a 50 BMG rifle and it also has double the energy of one. Doesn’t that mean that the recoil should be similar or something? Sure, it is heavy.

        • MR

          Notice “Verified Chick Lean” stance.

          • iksnilol

            “Chick Lean” is completely legit… At least if going for high accuracy.

  • Bosch

    PTRS-41. Just shy of 7 feet long and roughly 50 pounds loaded. Doubles as a spear.

    • Vhyrus

      Please tell me there is a bayonet mount on this thing.

      • Giolli Joker

        You can probably fit the pommel of your knife in the muzzle. 🙂

        • iksnilol

          Knife launcher

          • MR

            Obstructed barrel. :/ 😉

          • iksnilol

            Blanks. 😀

          • Giolli Joker

            Broken shoulder.

        • wetcorps

          You see Ivan, when you put knife in gun you can shoot AND stab them at the same time.

        • SD3

          But can I get one in a bullpup?

  • SP mclaughlin

    I saw a vine of this earlier that had the Russian anthem in the background, now I can’t find it
    🙁
    Also this is from Novorussian paramilitaries.

    • Martin M

      Pro-Russian paramilitary/militia found a PTRS-41 to play with.

  • micmac80

    Ole PTRS-41 anti tank rifle from WW2 but ,14.5×114 is a potent round that will punch trough most armored vehicles short of a MBT

  • guest

    No russian, novorussian!

    • SP mclaughlin

      Red Orchestra 3: Heroes of Stevestopol

      • guest

        LOL!!!!
        Can we have a “debaltzevo_kessel” map? ahahaha

  • qmark

    so easy a girl can do it

    • qmark

      easy

  • Kevin M.

    I have one of them, very cool rifle, somewhat like a giant SKS, but with a barrel that detaches with a single pin, and it takes a special 5 round enblock clip.

    Ammo is very difficult to obtain, handloading is the only way, but even then, cost per shot is close to $50 due to the need to cnc machine the projectiles and cases to fit .50bmg primers. Dies and a press don’t come cheap either CH4D is the only place I know of that makes them.

    • Grindstone50k

      How does one obtain one of these and for how much?

      • Kivaari

        Until GCA ’68, you could just buy them like any other rifle. Finn Lahti semi-auto 20mm AT rifles were around $120 with a chest full of parts, magazines, skis. Ammo was $90/100. GCA ’68 really screwed hobbyists. There was a gun club called BALLS – Benevolent Artillery Loaders and Loafers Society – where people got together and had a blast. I had a Soviet 50mm mortar, that became contraband while I was on active duty overseas. Upon returning home, I took it to the PD where I worked. The ATF still wanted to arrest me. That agent ended up in prison for trying to drown his wife in Lake Washington.

        • valorius

          Hang it, fire!!!!

          I spent some time in a Four Deuce platoon back in the day.

    • Giolli Joker

      PLEASE, send photos and details to TFB, that would make a very interesting post.

      • Kevin M

        Sure thing. I’ll send them in this week, I think I have a bunch of photos and maybe a video or two I can send in.

        • Giolli Joker

          GREAT! Thanks!

  • What’s the case volume on the cartridge used by this ~mystery rifle~?

    • Kivaari

      Lotso’powder.

    • Martin M

      Thermos

  • Don Ward

    Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

  • Herr Wolf

    at the same time this was happening US troops were sitting in a “May I Kiss You?” training session with Mike Dormitrz

    • valorius

      i could not even fathom what its like to serve in todays military. I think my head would explode.

  • Lance

    This puts Arnold Schwarzenegger to shame! And Herr Wolf is right while Obama make our troops attend none stop sensitivity training our enemy prepare for war.

  • mosinman

    what was once made mostly irrelevant on the battlefield is now relevant on the battlefield again

    • valorius

      one of those rifles is certainly relevant if you;re riding in a LAV-25 or something similar. o.O

      I suspect 14.5mm AP ammo would even defeat an MRAP.

      • mosinman

        that’s what i’m saying

        • valorius

          Then i’m agreeing. 😀

    • Bonzaipilot

      Nothing is ever irrelevant on a battlefield. If you think so your dead or a liability to your mates

  • Kivaari

    An old anti-tank rifle, finding new life as an anti-material rifle. It’s an equivalent to the Barrett.
    Like all the old anti-tank rifles, they were obsolete before WW2 started.

    • Don Ward

      Fortunately for the Russkies, the Nazis insisted on fielding tanks which were vulnerable to an “obsolete” anti-tank rifle like the PTRS. Like the over-rated Panther, for instance, which could routinely be penetrated in the sides by this weapon.

      • Kivaari

        Many people think German technology was so far advanced that they miss how vulnerable and unreliable the tanks were. The engines were overly complex, the wiring was eaten by mice, they had too many variants and not enough simple machines that worked. Battlefields littered with disabled tanks, for reasons other than enemy fire.
        It’s a good thing that Hitler was so stupid. If Hitler had a brain, he would not have started the war.

        • Tassiebush

          Tanks were so flammable too! They weren’t designed with the idea of incendary attacks at all so had things like air vents directly above engines where burning fuel could run in.

        • valorius

          The germans probably would have been much better suited standardizing on one or maybe two types of tank and/or fighters.

          People do think the Wermacht was a mechanized juggernaut, but the truth is that it was largely horsedrawn until late in the war.

      • mosinman

        not to mention they invaded Russia with mostly Panzer 2s and 37mm armed PZ3s and panzer 4s with short 75mm howitzers, which were all majorly vulnerable to the PTRD and PTRS

        • Kivaari

          Those early German tanks were not much bigger than a typical truck. Those small cannon were good for supporting infantry using HE. Against tanks they weren’t much.
          The hatches on the sides of the tanks were about 15mm. A 30-06 AP round could poke holes in them. The Germans had riveted hulls, that were very weak.
          The engines in the later “big” tanks were poorly engineered. They would be hard and time consuming using modern computer controlled machines.

          • Phil Hsueh

            You’re partially correct. German tanks did not use riveted armor, they were all riveted, the only German tank to use riveted armor was the PsKpfw35t which wasn’t even a German design but a Czech tank that they incorporated into their forces when they took Czechoslovakia,

            As far as the engines go, from what I’ve read the engines were quite decent, it’s just that by the time you got to the Panther they were woefully underpowered as they were designed for a much lighter Panther than what entered production. The big flaw, especially in the Tiger, was in the transmission, that’s what was really problematic and frequently caused break downs.

            In regards to armor, all tanks have weak armor in the rear, top, and bottom while the front is the thickest followed by the sides. It’s the nature of the beast, since you can’t put super thick armor all over because of the weight so you put the thickest armor where it counts the most, in the front since that’s the side that’s going to be facing the enemy the most often.

          • Kivaari

            Much of the German gear was stolen from the overrun nations. The armor is as you describe, that is why when engaged by anti-tank forces or anti-tank missiles, you turn into the threat. They using the appropriate round you fire at the launch signature. Even MG fire to distract the operator. That’s why the US Javelin fire and forget missile is so effective. Especially when it does the pop-up move.
            It is re-enforced when you see images of M1A1+ tanks disabled by a lucky hit from and RPG7. Painful to see them Zippo-ed.
            tanks are bullet magnets, just like a destroyer is a torpedo and missile magnet.

          • valorius

            there are a few documented accounts of US forces killing Iraqi tanks with .50 API hits to the engine compartment.

            Tanks are very vulnerable if you know where to aim.

          • Kivaari

            My unit used TOW and Dragon missiles. I liked how the Dragon “popped” its way to the target.

          • valorius

            We had dragons too.

            100 meter per second flight speed…..10 seconds tof to a target at max range. LOL, i always figured i would get as far away from our dragon gunner as possible if we were ever in an antitank engagement. LOL.

          • Kivaari

            I have not seen reports of tanks being killed with .50 BMG. I did see the two APCs killed at ~2300m using a Barrett. I did not like the Barrett. We referred to them as “crew served weapons”, one man shooting, the second operating the bolt. I don’t like the launch signature, where fine dust is kicked up 20 around you.

          • valorius

            The M107 has it’s uses, but the M107A1 is a lot more handy weapon. Shorter barrel, and a good deal lighter.

            It’d be neat to see them come out with a 20rd drum mag and an even lighter version for platoon level fire support.

          • valorius

            APC’s are easy to kill with a .50. Most APC’s with base level armor are only armored on their flanks and rear to stop 7.62mm AP.

            Tanks are obviously much better protected, but an API round of any caliber fired through the engine grill can destroy a tank if it perforates then ignites the fuel line or fuel system.

            All it takes is luck and BIG balls to be shooting at a tank with a pea shooter. LOL.

          • valorius

            i own a porsche, i will back up what you said about them being over-engineered.

            If i didnt fix it myself i could never afford to own the thing.

            It’s an awesome machine though. 🙂

          • Kivaari

            That is what most owners of German cars say. They love ’em, even though they spend so much time needing repairs.

          • valorius

            its not that my car breaks often, its that when it does, fixing it is extremely involved.

            Porsches are assembled like onions. In layers. To get anything out, you have to disassemble numerous unrelated systems in many cases.

      • The_Champ

        A quick search shows max penetration at 100m against 0 degree armour about 40mm. Panther side armour 40-50 mm. Do you have a source to show that Panthers were routinely penetrated by anti-tank rifles?

    • valorius

      this rifle would shine in an anti- light armored vehicle role.

      It is not even beyond the realm of possibility that multiple hits with API in a tanks engine grill could cause a fire and force the crew to abandon their tank.

  • Mikenz

    Yip PTRS-41 anti tank rifle,father of the SKS. SKS is just a scaled down version essentially.

    These have been popping up quite frequently in the Ukraine recently as well as the single shot PTRD. Still quite a useful weapon against helicopters and light vehicles. If you could mount optics probably a pretty decent long range weapon.

    The 14.5x114mm has about double the energy of the .50 Browning.

    • Giolli Joker

      One more reason to get an SKS.
      I’m curious about the target, if he was really hitting anything… just balancing properly that behemoth is an impressive feat, shooting it while standing and hitting anything smaller than a barn would be amazing.
      Anyway, best way of goofing around I’ve seen in a while.
      New challenge for Jerry Miculek? 🙂

      • valorius

        SPETZNAZ actually practice jumping and rolling around when shooting.

  • Grindstone50k

    It looks like a sort of PTRD anti-tank rifle.

    ETA: PTRS-41, I was close.

  • Southpaw89

    Its an Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator, capable of destroying an entire planet.

    • uisconfruzed

      “Where is my Ka-Boom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering Ka-BooM!”

      • jcitizen

        It was ultra sonic, and only dogs heard it! Lol!

  • Squirreltakular

    I’d buy one.

  • Kivaari

    Too bad they are destructive devices. Those in .50 BMG would be fun.

  • Kivaari

    If you like such things I recommend reading “Unintentional Consequences”. Where the anti-gunners have run amok. How the shooters changed society.

  • Tassiebush

    I love how noticeable the sound of spent brass hitting the ground is! I actually thought it was the enbloc clip the first time!

  • brian

    LMG, HMG, Cannon, let’s add to the mix the 105mm recoiless “Rifle”.

    • Kivaari

      And the 57mm, 75mm and 90mm recoil less rifles. I was going to build one using black powder, only to read that even black powder DDs, were prohibited. I intended to use 37mm (1.5″) projectiles. Thinking that using non-fixed ammo with a separate igniter would be OK, like a muzzle-loading cannon. The minutia of the gun laws, said “NO”.

  • DIR911911 .

    pretty sure that’s a ruger 10/22 conversion 🙂

  • valorius

    The PTRS-41 is still to this day capable of defeating most light armored vehicles at very long distances. 14.5mm has about twice the muzzle energy of .50 BMG.

  • GRComments

    I note that the rifle he’s got on his shoulder hit the ground as he dropped. Since it was barrel first, I hope that was really dry, clean ground. I can see him doing that in mud and taking it to fire and “enjoying” the fireworks.

  • H

    Anyone else wants to see Jerry Miculek with this?