BREAKING NEWS: Taurus Curve Already Recalled?

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Toele Shooting Supply, LLC, writes on their Facebook page:

Got a couple of the new Taurus Curve pistols today. Before they arrived, someone from Taurus called us to tell them we couldn’t sell them, and had to send them back to the factory… due to issues they refused to discuss.

Comments from around the web corroborate this. According to some, the reason for the recall was that the caliber was not stamped on the pistol’s barrel:

Source:

Went to Dick’s today to see the new Curve that they expected to receive yesterday and I was told that the Curves have been recalled because Taurus did not print the caliber on the barrels.

Source:

I work for Academy, we can’t sell them because the caliber wasn’t stamped on them.

Source:

I bought one today. Dealer was unaware of a recall. And yes, the caliber was not stamped on it.

No official comment has been made by Taurus about this apparent recall.

All firearms imported into the United States are legally required to possess caliber markings stamped or etched into the barrel to a depth of at least three thousandths of an inch.

UPDATE: Taurus has released a statement:

We recently discovered that a batch of the new Curve™ pistols left our facility without the caliber (.380 Auto) prominently displayed. We are requesting that these firearms are returned to us for proper marking. There are no quality or safety issues with these firearms. The marking error has been corrected and we are currently producing and shipping Curves to meet the significant demand for this product.

We have been in contact with our dealers, distributors and retailers and are in the process of getting the products they had in stock sent back to us. Given the excitement surrounding the Curve, many firearms have already been purchased by consumers. Our Customer Care team is ready to expedite the return and marking process and can be reached at 1.800.327.3776 by selecting Option 1 for Customer Care and then pressing 8 for priority service. More information and directions on how to return a firearm for marking are also available at www.taurususa.com/curvereturn.
We are grateful for all of the support for this exciting, new and different product. We take quality and meeting our customers’ needs very seriously and apologize for the inconvenience this has caused our Taurus® fans.

H/T The Weapon Blog.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Ben

    Well that had a certain inevitability about it.

  • Don Ward

    Hahahahahahaha! *Pauses to catch breath* Hahahahahahaha! *Bends over to cough*. Hahahahahahaha.

    Whew. Lightheaded.

  • Jerry McBurney

    Looks like life threw hem a curve

    • Vitsaus

      That would be implying that Taurus is a stranger to failure.

      • Steve

        They sure sell a lot of firearms and innovate new ideas for such failures. ..you and I should be so fortunate

    • uisconfruzed

      Who’s hem? Third base?

      • Jerry McBurney

        Give me a break , fat fingered my typing

        • uisconfruzed

          I’m just funnin’
          Who’s on firts, what’s on second, etc. I smirked when I saw your post.
          I get popped for typos frequently, and laugh when it’s funny.

    • Ripley

      .380 curve ball ammo. Angelina Jolie approved.

  • Plumbiphilious

    …Anyone vaguely disappointed we didn’t set up a betting pool as to how long this would have taken?
    I mean, we knew it was GOING to happen, but it was WHEN that we could have guessed on.

    Hindsight’s always 20/20…but you can always bet on Taurus.

  • Vitsaus

    I really want to know who is shocked. I mean when we first heard about this there was laughter, there was derision, then the Taurus defenders came out saying “give it a chance, stop being elitist snobs.” etc… And here we are.

    • Steve

      Well aren’t you such a genius. I’ve got a smith and Wesson 380 bodyguard that is the biggest piece of crap ever….but I won’t trash them for everything they’ve ever produced. Specifically something I’ve never even laid a hand on.

  • Lance

    Never even heard of the Taurus Curve.

    • lucusloc

      Willful ignorance, or just don’t get on the net much? Honestly I can understand either answer.

      • I can’t blame him. When I see the word Taurus on the search for gun related information I usually tune out as well.

        • Jimminy Crickets

          Lookout folks, we’ve got an elite operator here!

          • MR

            So covert, I can’t even see his comment.

    • Dan Darkitty

      then you’re behind the Curve

      • Grindstone50k

        *Insert CSI: Miami intro*

  • lucusloc

    To be fair, forgetting to stamp a caliber is not exactly a functional or a design problem, just a QC issue (which Taurus seems to be known for. . . )

    • Christopher Armour

      I would call it a liability issue.

    • Beju

      At least it’s not like they went full-Remington.

      • Wonky

        LOL, too true!

    • lol

      Still as far as goof ups go, that’s a pretty big one. What else got “missed” in QC?

      • lucusloc

        Definitely something that makes me go “hrmmmm. . . “

  • It is actually more surprising that some dude above admitted he bought one of these.

    • MR

      Hope he’s not a dog owner.

    • DIR911911 .

      admitted having an instant collectible , I fail to see the problem. not likely they’ll send in assassins in to retrieve it. they might even pay handsomely to have it back since it was legally purchased.

      • ‡Jackson Rulesya‡

        yes but wont the powers that be have a field day with him if he gets caught carrying it …since its now basically not up to ATF rules …..im just asking since they will use any excuse to take your gun from you these days …and that would not be cool

    • JCP

      Not a big Taurus fan. You get what you pay for. Not sure I would bet my life on one. Might like to have an unmarked Curve but, would probably just keep it in the box! By the way, not a big .380 fan either. Fun to shoot but, too many small, good 9mm guns out there to carry a .380. Save a little more $ and buy a good gun!

      • john

        Good 9mm must be talking about my kimber solo. There is more hillbilly squabble about that pistol online. I have fired 2000 rounds out of mine.yes using all top shelf ammo. And zero problems.buy quality guns,use quality ammo

  • BryanS

    Recalled because the caliber is not stamped on it…

    Oh no. My .380 pistol that is only made in .380 doesn’t tell me on the barrel (that I wont see due to the slide) that its in .380.

    • Katie A. Blogger

      Click-bait title is click-bait. At least we got an “article” long on copy-and-paste, short on commentary. TFB is turning into Ammoland–but sadly lacking politics (unless the Brits’ feathers are ruffled).

    • flyingburgers

      Recalled because their gun is illegal. 27 CFR 478.92(a)(1)(ii) under the authority of the Gun Control Act of 1968. Supposed to help tracing.

      • MR

        Finally, some illegal guns that the politicians are always harping about. I guess they do exist. Real scary, too.

      • dan citizen

        In news today…

        “Taurus begins delivery of ultra concealable ghost gun”

    • Tim Pearce

      Yeah, and yet they don’t recall the Judge revolvers that don’t have the chamber size marked on the gun. I’ve met people who were able to get 3″ shells into those 2.5″ chambers.

      • JRJ21

        The law does not apply to revolvers as long as it s stamped somewhere.The Barrel is usually one part of the whole gun.

  • H. L. Fahnestock

    Perhaps they should have called it the Taurus “Boomerang”.

  • John

    I can only see the Taurus Curve being a success if they make a left- and right-handed set.

    • floppyscience

      I somehow doubt making another model to cater to 10% of the population will mean the different between success and failure.

  • Alucard

    Taurus should focus on improving the designs they already have before making new pistols.
    I’d be thrilled if they made a polymer framed striker fired Beretta 92 variant.(or just polymer framed)

    • Steve

      I have three Taurus handguns…a 709 slim, a TCP 380, and a model 94 22 revolver….all perform flawlessly with no misfires with any ammo I’ve run through them…I’d venture to say 70% who hate on Taurus have probably never shot one and also believe everything they hear on FAUX News.

      • Alucard

        Not bashing them but they do tend to F-up their new designs.I have owned several taurus guns as well but they were older guns they worked all the kinks out with.

        • Steve

          I had a second run smith and wesson bodyguard 380 that was the worst piece of crap of a handgun I ever owned. My point is new designed handguns can have issues from any manufacturer. I couldn’t care less about who makes a handgun I purchase as long as it functions and they back it up with warranty…both of which all 3 of my Taurus’ s do.

  • Grindstone50k

    Pretty minor reason for recall, relatively speaking. Wouldn’t get too worked up over it. But it is unique and it’s from Taurus, so knee-jerk reactions will rule the day.

    • Dan Darkitty

      yeah- this just gives Glock and Sig fanbois another reason to sniff their own farts

      • ‡Jackson Rulesya‡

        I get my glocks for the prices you pay for your Taurus so hahahaha …just wish I could say the same for the xd mod2 in .45 I want ……full price ..booooo

      • superflex

        Hating people who can afford nice firearms is so trailer park of you.

        Enjoy your Hi Point/Century Arms misadventures, Cletus.

        • Steve

          And hating those who choose not to spend the exuberant prices on big name gun companies is different how?

    • True enough—

    • Matt

      Yeah, not a big deal at all. They will still use the same guns, just unpack them, laser engrave the caliber and repackage. Dealers won’t get the same serial numbers back but I don’t see this being big news at all.

    • wuhrlitzer

      Glock “fanbois” dont deal with recalls. Just sayin’.
      Taurus is like the Keystone Cops. “OH NOES WE DIDNT QA DIS AT ALLZ”

      • Grindstone50k

        1. I didn’t mention anything about Glocks or “fanbois”. 2. Glock HAS had plenty of recalls.

      • Ted Unlis

        Yep, there’s a reason that while 65 to 70% of U.S. law enforcement carry a Glock, only a half dozen or less folks staff the warranty department at Glock USA. Unlike Taurus, customers rarely have to send back their Glock for repair under warranty.

        • Jeff Allen

          It use to be more…

        • bluedog09

          That’s b/c glock blames everything on anything except the gun and very rarely fixes/replaces anything… and LE uses it b/c it’s cheap… this coming from an LEO. We’ve had plenty of problems with ours.

          • ‡Jackson Rulesya‡

            that’s because most leos are worse at taking care of their guns then the average dope on a range ….I should know I work on em a lot but glock is horrible at owning up to their mistakes for sure …buts that’s why we have the internet …research ,find the hillbilly blogger with nothing better to do then shoot and fix guns and we get a solution ……lmao

      • floppyscience

        That’s because Glock has silent “revisions” when messed up guns like the 36 and 42 are released, or like when they put .40 recoil springs in the first 9mm Gen 4s. Instead of publicly announcing their mistakes and having a recall they make changes mid-production and everyone with a problem has to figure it out themselves and talk Glock into fixing it for them. I have a G19 and I love it but I don’t pretend they’ve never botched a launch. They’re just sneakier and less transparent when they mess up.

        • NikonMikon

          what happened with the g36?

          • floppyscience

            They’ve had erratic feeding, ejection, and extraction issues since they came to the market. Most people report no problems, but a lot do, and Glock has never officially acknowledged them. People who complain are told by Glock, “it’s a unique pistol and takes getting used to” and every problem is blamed on limp-wristing. To my knowledge the G36 has never been totally fixed and still has issues for a lot of people.

        • bluedog09

          Tru dat… Glock is the king of saying “shhh… we screwed up, but let’s make it a secret”.

      • DrColostomy

        Glock exploders?

        • ‡Jackson Rulesya‡

          ok here goes the reload ftards tryin to say it was glocks fault again …..

  • Southpaw89

    And a hundred years from now collectors will proudly show off their non-stamped Taurus Curves, the select few that are fortunate enough to find one that is.

  • Jonathan Trivette

    It seems like a very stupid concept to begin with. Why would you need or want a curved handgun?

    • Herr Wolf

      concealed carry- follows the curvature of your hip- less bulge (that’s what he said). not a bad idea, really, if you like/need a streamlined CC look

    • Grindstone50k

      Why not? What’s wrong with a bit of innovation? Or would you prefer another 1911/Striker-fire/AR-putter-togetherer?

  • Jeff

    A Taurus rep told me that caliber stamping on the barrel was required by the BATFE. I am not sure if that is a recent development by the BATFE, or if Taurus is using it as an excuse for a voluntary recall for a QC issue.

    • MR

      Stamping the caliber on the barrel has been a requirement since 1968(Gun Control Act). So, yeah, it’s pretty recent, geologically speaking.

  • Doug

    I’m not fanboy for any particular brand. I own a Garand & 1911. As well as a Sig pistol & an AK. I commend Taurus for coming out with something different. When I read new gun reviews it often times seem to be much of the same. It seems we often time find excitement when a manufacturer releases a polymer pistol or a striker fired pistol. Or recently a single stack pistol.

    There are good guns & bad guns, but it kills me when individuals from the start discount a new weapon based on the design or the manufacturer. Unfortunately we are a culture at odds with the “mainstream.” I applaud Taurus for coming out with something different and I’m interested in checking out the Curve when it become readily available.

    • dan citizen

      I damned near bought one. Still might.

    • Andrew

      Agreed, For what it is designed for…the Curve seems to be perfect for the task and the reviews seem to support that conclusion. I have never been much of a fan of Taurus until I bought a CT9 carbine….probably one of the best functioning rifles that I own (including my Lone Wolf 9mm AR15).

      I will eventually buy a Curve, I usually just wait until the 2 generation comes out.

    • Tim Pearce

      I’m interested in seeing one in person, even if I’ll not buy it (it fills no niche that I need filled).

    • USMC03Vet

      I don’t understand this train of thought at all.

      So what if it’s unique when it does nothing superior. Maybe if it did something superior it would be more than a terrible choice for conceal carry. In all aspects it is just a subpar handgun. The curve design doesn’t negate this or any of it’s other subpar features which again server no purpose other than being uniquely subpar.

      If you buy guns to simply buy guns then ok, get the curve and keep it in the safe so you can claim it’s uniqueness, but nobody should be buying this as something they’d rely on for a conceal carry piece when there are far better options out there.

      Taurus’ moniker for this firearm should be “Why not compromise everything” .

      • fish1552

        The “thought” is to start breaking molds and leading to innovation in new areas than the standard frames we have now. I like the concept of the curve helping hide printing. Sure it may not be the best weapon out there, but it’s something new that could lead to better things down the road – or even being adopted by other manufacturers who may tweak things and lead to something superior. Sort of like the composite weapon concept was so weird back in the day.

        • ‡Jackson Rulesya‡

          agreed , given some minor upgrades this thing could be a sub 1.5 inch grouper at 25 yds …a match grade barrel anyone lol j/k

      • Grindstone50k

        You seem to know a lot about the Curve. Would you mind posting a review?

      • Steve

        What are your credentials to make such a bold statement? How do you know so much about a firearm that isn’t on the market fully? I bet you’ve never seen one let alone had your paws on one.

        • rumblestrips

          He was in the marines, which means he knows everything about handguns. Even ones he’s never seen….he knows everything.

    • Ripley

      Your guns are pretty much the pinnacle of mainstream. But I’m sure you chose the guns you knew had decades (and century) of proven design getting you the most for your bucks. Pretty much how mainstream works. You know you’re mainstream when all your friends have to say about your new gun is “yeah.. it’s good” and not “you should maybe have bought xx instead”.

  • Curtis Kerns

    Man…if you managed to get ahold of one of these I’d put it away someplace safe: It’ll be worth serious money down the road.

  • Joseph Russell

    I love my revolvers made by Taurus. Just saying.

    • Andrew Jones

      Pre-2000ish, they made fine revolver. I love my 608–smooth shooting and well behaved. But after that I don’t think I’d buy one.

  • Zachary marrs

    I get the feeling this will be one of many

  • dan citizen

    Seriously though… How many people are going to accidentally fore .32 NAA out of one?

    • Tim Pearce

      A.) I sell guns for a living, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone trying to stuff a .40 S&W into one “because it doesn’t say I can’t.”
      B.) Again, from my experience, there are plenty of people that don’t look at the chamber stamp for clues as to what round the gun shoots.

      • AR_Libertarian

        anyone who doesn’t know what round their gun takes is an idiot, caliber stamped on the barrel or not.

  • Gary Adkison

    I own and love my Taurus Millennium in .45. I would buy another one any time.

    • Tassiebush

      I have a pump action .22 rifle that is pretty nifty and trouble free. I didn’t realize Taurus had notoriety!

      • Ed

        First time on the internet?

        • Tassiebush

          Haha no but after looking it up I can see why you’d ask that!

  • Martin Grønsdal

    They recalled these guns because by a mistake they also curved the barrels

  • MountainKelly

    Bad Taurus. Bad.

  • uisconfruzed

    I’d want to keep the barrel as a rare item, collectable.

  • DIR911911 .

    can you say “collectible” ?

    • Leigh Rich

      Not really

  • Ted Unlis

    I thought maybe it was because the pistol tends to curve rounds high and to the left.

  • Rob Premo

    I would hand a Taurus right back to you if you gave me one. Will never own one of these pieces of metal garbage.

    • Wlmlinms

      U shot one? U saw one? I bet not!

  • I totally want one of the not marked ones 🙂 /sigh

    • Leigh Rich

      Gun broker

  • AR_Libertarian

    Seems like it would be less trouble to field strip and just send the barrel back.

  • Tex

    I would like to see some pic of the curve out of the box. Does it come in a 9mm?

    • wlinms

      NO 9mm. Yet.

  • Will

    Does he actually shoot the damn thing in the video? I got so tired of seeing him swinging his arms around, I shut it off!

  • Leigh Rich

    That is why they have not been out there for sale. Some still on gun broker.

  • smartacus

    aww man, I clicked here expecting to find a Caracal style total recall story.
    *ok back to World News with pictures of Bat Boy being used by scientists to fight ISIS and Bird Flu

  • Marcus K.

    Oh they just forgot to stamp the caliber on the barrels and here I thought some of the pistols were throwing bullets to the left. 😛

  • Erik Rapoport

    The LGS I work at got a dozen or more of these. We put them on display them pulled them before any sold (just a few minutes).

    The irony of the “prominent making of caliber for imported pistols” is that these pistols are also marked MADE IN USA.

  • Marcus K.

    Oh they just forgot to stamp the caliber on the barrels and here I thought some of the pistols were curving bullets to the left. 😉

  • sometrend

    I`ve tried a few taurus pistols in the past….not going to try again. The most inaccurate pistol I`ve ever shot was a PT 92 I bought a few years ago.You couldn`t call the paper test out of my ransom rest a group….pattern would be more accurate! 9″ at 50ft? I was taken by the price,475$ brand new,thinking it would make a good knock around gun to leave in my truck. Needless to say I got rid of it and bought a 4053 police trade in for 350$ that`ll put an entire mag into 3″ at the same distance….the sights are right there on it too!!!!. Didn`t keep the 92 long enought to comment on reliability,but it didn`t fetch up in the 150 rounds of ball I put through it.That`s the only good thing I can say about it

  • Mystick

    What else escaped their QC?

  • DrColostomy

    Use of lead projectiles, or reloads VOIDS glock warrantees.

  • DrColostomy

    Google “Glock Explodes in hand”.

  • RPK

    Although a minor sales release setback, this is no surprise. I am STILL trying to get ahold of someone at Taurus about the TC9 Carbine and if the originally designed 33 round magazine will ever be made available to the public or not. Still can not find any information on after market production efforts either. That Carbine is great EXCEPT for lack of capacity. It comes with two 10 reliable round magazines…but, that is pretty lame. Anyone have an email for Taurus to get a customer feedback response or any news on after market magazines? Thanks…

  • William Dinwiddie

    I own a Taurus PT 1911AR and a model 85 9 mm revolver. both are dependable having fired several hundred round through both and no mechanical problems. just bought a Taurus pt 111 milleneum G2 9mm semi auto fired about 100 rounds through it not having any issues yet with either ball or hollow points so I don’t know what the perceived problem with the Taurus is except some people have either never tried them or just like to complain,

  • Conrad Gabbard

    Consider the collector value for those few unmarked pistols that were sold. Wonder how many dealers will send them all back?

  • Bret

    I bought a Curve today that doesn’t have the caliper stamped. Guess I’ll have to send it in. Otherwise it seems like a fine enough carry pistol. I don’t wear real baggy clothing in the summer, so often times even a small .380 will print on me. The curve fits very well with no printing. It’s more of a rectangular shape anyway due to the laser/light on it. Haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet, but I’m sure it will do fine just as every other “modern” Tuarus I’ve ever fired has.

    • Slinks

      Shot the hell out of mine. All good. .380 is on the mag. LOVE IT! All others can KMA.

  • shooter2009

    Wondering if/when they will make a left-handed model.

  • Steve

    who the heck buys a gun…keeps it overnight then sells it for half the purchase price?? Did you use it to knock somebody off or do you just have so much money you can throw it away?

  • David Curtis

    My local gun shop handled mine for me because it wouldn’t go bang, and the lack of a caliber mark.