Larry Vickers breaks down “Collateral” Alleyway Gunfight

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In this video Larry Vickers breaks down the alleyway gunfight in the movie Collateral (2004). It is well worth watching.

The video below shows the live-fire gun training Tom Cruise did for the movie.

Thanks to Jay for the link.

 



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  • A

    Why does Vincent block the gun by pushing it to his right? From my desk it seems as if it would have been safer to block it upwards to be able to keep it away while shooting the bad guy. In the movie, the bad guy just loses it and falls down after the gut shots (spinal hit?), but what if he would’ve shot Vincent a couple of times before bleeding out?

    • DM

      In the film, it takes roughly 3 seconds for “Vincent” to deal with badguy 2 before he is free to reassess badguy 1. If you are able to collect yourself in 3 seconds after being on the receiving end of 2 .45 ACP center mass hits at close distance…more power to you. Remember, it’s still a movie with special effects (note the green screen usage for this scene in the second vid).

      • Sulaco

        Director stated in the clip that it took 1.8 seconds to do the scene.

        • DM

          I was timing it off the youtube clip

      • DonDrapersAcidTrip

        the green screen was solely to add in muzzle flash to the real scene, what does that have to do with anything?

    • Giolli Joker

      From the way it looks, especially in the movie, the movement allows to twist the upper body, making it a smooth motion to get the gun with the right hand and then shoot (in boxing terms, think left hook followed by a straight right).

      • sianmink

        Yup. It allows him to push the tweaker’s gun off-line and begin his own draw in the same motion.

        • judoka

          and throw the tweaker somewhat of balance, easier to maintain balance when pushed vs pulled

    • BattleshipGrey

      It also makes the first bad guy muzzle sweep his partner. It’s not out of reason that when someone already has their finger on the trigger they could pull it from being careless in the fray.

  • Yohei556

    Still never seen Collateral…

    • mig1nc

      Me either, I just added it to the top of my Netflix DVD queue. Sadly, they don’t have it streaming.

    • Pretty good flick. I dont care much for cinema but I remeber seeing this in a theatre and thinking it was enjoyable.

      • iksnilol

        I saw In Bruges a couple of days ago, it didn’t have much of a gun focus but it did have its fun moments with them.

        “I want a normal gun for a normal person *picks up 1911*”

        Funniest gun part was when the two main characters are discussing their guns: “Silencer, too. Nice. Mine’s a bloody girl’s gun”

        • Steve Martinovich

          It’s my mission in life to get people to watch In Bruges. Got another last week.

        • lurpy

          Don’t be stupid. This is the shootout.

    • Grindstone50k

      It’s a pretty good suspense movie. Really suggest you give it a try.

  • Sulaco

    Watched the movie/scene many times and always note that Suspect 2 had his hand on his gun in his belt walking up to Cruse but letting suspect 1 do the talking/acting at first but didn’t even attempt to pull it until the shooting started. Nearly all “bad guy” teams have a leader and follower dynamic with “follower” always behind the curve. Bad mistake on #2’s part, looks like he even pulled his hand off the gun just before the shoot as he is reaching for his belt line when Cruse hits him with 2/3 tap, but still good news for Cruse as he didn’t have to draw or move against two pulled and pointed guns. War gaming the scene: had #2 been pulled and pointed it could have gone very badly for Cruse if #2 could get over his muzzle shock and respond had he had his gun in hand and pointed. #1 would still be a meat stick however…Some what agree with A on the muzzle clearance on S-1 in most cases we were trained to move in sweep up and left wrapping up the suspects arm and fire with gun pushed nearly into the suspects gut as soon as it cleared the holster and was on line…using #1 for cover if possible then dealing with #2. Still its a good movie and a good one of its type.

    • Grindstone50k

      I would imagine that if #2 had his gun out as well as #1, Vincent would target #2 immediately after knocking away #1’s aim.

    • Mmmtacos

      Fun fact: number 2 struggles with his gun and doesn’t pull it at all. While filming the scene the actor actually messed up and couldn’t get his gun out. Mann kept the scene thinking it was more realistic, but actually had originally intended for the actor to pull his gun, just a moment too late.

  • RealitiCzech

    Tom Cruise may be a nutter, but he does take his work very seriously. His gunfight in the Jack Reacher movie was quite good, too.

    • Michael R. Zupcak

      I agree. I was surprised when they cast Tom Cruise to play Reacher since Reacher is supposed to be like 6′ 4″ but he did a good job.

      • Grindstone50k

        Also, they made Reacher to be more of an Ethan Hunt than the actual Jack Reacher.

    • judoka

      didn’t he do insane free soloing for the opening of Mission impossible 2

    • Randy

      Did anyone catch the firearms the bad guys were using in the last fight (quarry) scene from Jack Reacher. I’m not sure, but they looked like Highpoint carbines.

  • Grindstone50k

    I am highly disappointed by the lack of “YEAAAAAAH DAWWWG”s in this LAV video.

  • judoka

    Michael Mann is the Mann, plenty of scenes for Larry to duplicate (:

  • Don Ward

    Now we need a breakdown of the gunfights in “Shoot ‘Em Up” including the tactical secks scene with Monica Bellucci/shoot out.

  • patrickiv

    Heat

  • JumpIf NotZero

    LAV’s getting a little plump it seems

  • BG

    Just a legal point of order, here, from a regular citizen self-defense standpoint: Assailant 1 was down and unarmed when Cruise backhandedly ‘offs’ him with a delayed third shot. Yes, it makes him look like a nonchalant killer for movie purposes, but IRL that will land you in prison. Crime scene analysis will clearly show that the coup de grace was administered to the supine man. Cruise could claim that Assailant 1 was still armed and raising his weapon… as long as there were no witnesses; not something you can count on.

    • Mustascheo

      Besides being Hollywood, I don’t think the assassin cared if he offed the crackhead scumbag after he was on the ground. As if he hadn’t already murdered one or two guys…..

  • ParaLarry

    He’s go to learn to holster a loaded gun without sweeping his support hand.

  • n0truscotsman

    This article made me watch the movie. The other that had good “gun handling” was Heat, as i distinctively remember the application of the mozambique drill. For the mid 90s, this is quite impressive for a hollywood film. That and semi-automatic shots from the FN.

    John Wick was also impressive for hollywood gun handling. More movies will have their leads undergo training to create a more believable environment.

  • ghost

    Read the “Jack Reacher” books, big dude, lots of leverage. Big and good is an advantage over smaller and good. But, it’s a book on one hand and a movie on the other. Being an actor is not an easy job.