Gun Review: SAP-6 Shotgun Review: Turkish UltraShort Mag-Fed in Canada

SAP-6 Shotgun Review
The SAP-6 shotgun is a magazine-fed short-barrel shotgun manufactured by Dagger in Turkey and imported to Canada by Tactical Imports. I’ve had one in my safe for the past 3 months and have enjoyed tinkering with it. After first being introduced in the summer of 2014, it is seeing additional manufacturer support in the way of new stocks, barrels, and magazines.

 

Left side SAP-6

 

In Canada, short barrel shotguns are not controlled the way they are in the US, while handguns of any kind require an Authorization to Transport. A semi-auto shotgun falls under different legislation when it has a barrel under 18.5″ and will always have a 5 round capacity limit, but a manually operated firearm is only bound by over-all-length requirements. (26 inches) This means that in the great white north, any discussion of wild-life protection will always revolve around a short barrel shotgun.

 

Shooting slugs through the SAP-6

Shooting slugs through the SAP-6 produces plenty of fire, but was still comfortable enough to shoot after a dozen down the pipe.

 

Both the barrel and magazine system lend the SAP-6 a distinct advantage in this arena. Depending on where you are and what time of year, you may need to carry your firearm unloaded. A box magazine means you are able to go from “completely empty” to “full-up” in a single action and vice versa. If one were so inclined they could argue this shotgun would do well in the roles of 3 Gun, home-defense, tactical operators operating shotguns in hostile CQB environments, or for anyone who just likes compact guns. I’m not here to tell you what you can and can’t do with a firearm.

 

The SAP-6 ships with a telescoping pistol grip stock installed, with the option for a traditional shotgun stock. The telescoping stock has space for four spare shotshells, which I found were held quite tightly. This is either a good thing, because you won’t be dribbling live rounds after you put a slug through the gun, or a bad thing because you have to actually push hard to work the shells out.

 

The factory 11″ barrel is a fixed cylinder choke, but new 14″ barrels threaded for Remington chokes are available for an extra $200.

 

Tactical imports is now also selling larger 11 round magazines, which gives the SAP-6 the largest factory capacity for a shotgun in Canada.

 

SAP-6 11 round mag and 14 inch barrel

The new 11 round mags are quite large, while the extended barrel allows the use of Remington pattern chokes.

 

This shotgun does not use a rock-and-lock system like some of the Norinco Grizzly’s, but is instead a straight insertion with a rear release lever. Magazine insertion is a little stiffer than your average AR-15, but all 4 of my magazines did drop free. As an added bonus, a 7.62 Magpul fits tightly onto the base of the magazine. It’s worth noting that I tried all kinds of crappy and quality ammunition, primarily target load, buck, and slugs. The only failure I experienced was that pulling the pump back slowly can mean your expended shell might not eject properly. No surprise there, pump guns aren’t made to be babied.

 

The flattop picatinny rail comes with a hooded front sight installed, which works fine, but the gun appears to be built for red dots. Any additional accessories need to be mounted at an offset that puts them out of the way of an optic, but also clears the action of the pump.

 

The SAP-6 Front SIght and Sling Mount

 

The base gun retails for $699, with additional magazines an extra $45. Which puts it above the Chinese clones at the $400 mark, but below the $900 price tag on most mag-fed semi-autos.

 

There are a few odd things about the SAP-6 that keep it from being my “do everything” shotgun. Specifically, the pump does not lock in the forward position. The spring assist keeps the chamber closed, but it can be opened again just by pulling back on the pump.

 

The good news is that I have (with some trepidation) attempted to cause an out of battery discharge by applying varying degrees of pressure to the pump and pulling the trigger (first dummy rounds, then live with protection). The firing pin cannot clear the bolt face unless it is fully seated. However pulling the trigger while out of battery will close the action and cause a failure to fire, forcing the shooter to rack the pump to reset the hammer.

 

Close up of the SAP-6 Pump and Light Mount

 

Unfortunately, this issue is compounded by Dagger’s second design failing: The forend of the SAP-6 is slick, and round, and flush with the end of the barrel. This sort of gun begs for a forward handstop, or a fully contoured forend like Magpul’s 870 offering. Unfortunately, I could see it being all to easy for someone to follow through on the forward motion, come off the end of the gun, and blast something they shouldn’t. Having a sling tied in at the end of the tube can help this, but the sling mounts on the SAP-6 shotgun are somewhat small.

 

Tactical Imports does bring in a contoured pump with a forward rail section, which looks like it’s built specifically to solve that problem. It doesn’t surprise me a bit that they’re sold out.

 

Adding to some of the pump confusion is the spring assist. While this is arguably a feature for some, I find it odd in this sort of firearm. A spring wrapped around the otherwise unused mag tube means your pump is always trying to slide forward. That means some good things, like if you remove your hand the action will still close. But also bad things with additional resistance to open the action, and the fact that your action cannot be left open. There is no last round bolt-hold-open on the magazines, and I could not find any method to lock the bolt back. That could be a problem in 3-gun depending on your local rules for ditching a firearm, and unless you’re very good at counting shots you’ll likely shoot till you click before knowing it’s time for a new magazine.

 

I think this shotgun has a lot of potential for both a backpackers and Canadian 3 gunners. The compact, non-restricted, high(ish) capacity gives it a certain niche. However, anyone buying should be informed and prepared for the hurdles they face surrounding the action itself.
SAP-6 Shotgun Built


Edward O

Edward is a Canadian gun owner and target shooter with a Bachelor’s Degree in Journalism. Crawling over mountains with tactical gear is his idea of fun. He blogs at TV-Presspass and tweets @TV_PressPass.


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  • Marc H

    Good review Eddie

  • morokko

    Dat shoota lookz good, got bigga fire and be louda. Need more red paint job beside collimator to go stronga bang-bang for greenskin Boyz! Waaagh!

  • Texas-Roll-Over

    TORGUE!

    I want so bad…

  • Bill

    Almost worth emigrating for. You are absolutely right, that bad boy needs a mudflap/VFG/something to keep a slippery hand going forward of the muzzle. That aint gonna reattach, no matter how good your surgeon is.

    I’ve never considered a spring around the mag tube and can see the issues you are discussing. The flip side is that some older, well worn guns, primarily 870s, can slide out of battery when held vertically, which can be a hassle during some loading. downloading and unloading procedures.

    I’ll take six, and pass on the Serbu and KSG

  • Kyle

    If the spring is an issue, why not just remove it? If it’s just something to push the forearm forward, I imagine the gun will function just well and good without it.

    • Cymond

      Well, remember that the bolt doesn’t latch or lock closed in any way. Forward pressure on the pump is the only thing keeping the bolt closed.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        I can’t be the only person that thinks that is an insane design flaw!?

  • Vitsaus

    They certainly seem to know their market.

  • Raoul O’Shaugnessy

    Its a sad day when the average subject of Canuckistan has access to cooler stuff than the citizens of ‘Murica.

    • ATman

      Bawhaha! Don’t get me started on the quasi legal sbr .22 that are not actually restricted in Canada. Still I think most Canadian shooters would give a certain bodily appendage to be able to hunt and use an ar-15 more freely.

      • David Sharpe

        Nah, I want to be able to take an AR anywhere, I ain’t giving anything up for it…

        But I am rooting for our Firearms Association though.

  • Duray

    Every pump shotgun I’ve ever seen has been “magazine fed.” Terminology is your friend.

  • Anony Moose

    This is almost worth moving up north for and dealing with milk in bags.

    • David Sharpe

      I have never seen milk in bags, where do you find these?

      • Kevin Harron

        Any Canadian grocery store. 4 litres of milk are generally sold in 3 plastic bags of 1.33 L each. They go with milk jugs that are pretty standard across the board.

        • David Sharpe

          I don’t know where you’ve been, but any convenience store, grocery store or big box store I have been to does not carry bags of milk. Maybe that’s an Eastern thing.

          • It IS an eastern thing! When I go out to Montreal & Ottawa they have milk bags. Fricken weirdos.

  • TDog

    Cool review. Just wondering: in the write up you mentioned the Norinco Grizzly being a “clone”. What is it a clone of?

    • Wetcoaster

      The Grizzly is an 870 clone. The Grizzly Mag is the same action but feeds from 5-round box magazines instead. Most 870 accessories, including barrels will fit the 15″ and 18.5″ models.

  • dan citizen

    Nice review

  • Squirreltakular

    I definitely find the 18″ minimum length rule here in the States absurd, especially when rifles are allowed to be shorter.

    Any chance of importing one as a registered SBS?

    • David Sharpe

      I’m sure you could have that done.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        I’m sure you could have done a little research before hitting post :/

        • David Sharpe

          Why can’t you import NFA firearms?

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Why don’t you ask the ATF?

          • David Sharpe

            Meh, I don’t care, doesn’t affect me at all.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            You don’t care that you told someone the flat out wrong answer because you figured posting something would be better than nothing? I’d argue that effects us all.

            No. You cannot import NFA items.

          • David Sharpe

            No, I don’t care about the ATF or the NFA, and I didn’t say yes, I said “I’m sure you could” which means maybe.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Ok, but the answer is not maybe, the answer is NO.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      No imports of NFA.

  • Ominae

    Does Dagger have a website for reference?

    • Maybe if you speak Turkish! The best I’ve found is the Canadian Importer: http://www.tacticalimports.ca/sap6-p-276.html

      • Ominae

        I don’t mind. Just need to see the specs and all from their website if they have one.

        • David Sharpe

          What kind of info do you need?

          • Ominae

            Stats like year of production, mag capacity and length. Things like that.

            Interested to see what’s it like.

          • David Sharpe

            It doesn’t show year of production, but length is 29.13 – 32.8 inches, capacity is 6 or 11.

            I would really like to get this shotgun.

          • Ominae

            Thanks. But if Dagger has a URL out there, let me know.

            I can’t find one so far.

  • David Sharpe

    EDDIE!!! Question for you, can I buy this off of you, and if I can’t, can you tell me if I can get a fore end with a rail?

    Also, can you take the spring off or is it there forever?

  • michel Baikrich

    It is a mistake to make a shotgun in compact pump action because it is a short range use of weapon and for that, we need an automatic

    The SAP-6 has been very poorly thought for prison guards, or interventions has its very short distances and in narrow corridors. So the stock is unnecessary and also the sights