Rock Island 380 ACP

RIA 380 ACP

Rock Island Armory had the company’s new 1911-style .380 ACP pistol at the 2015 Industry Day at the Range. Called the Baby Rock Standard CS, the gun was designed from the ground up to be a concealed carry pistol.

RIA 380 ACP

In our shooting, the gun ran well and we did not experience any problems. Additionally, I did not observe any issues with the guns other writers were shooting while we were at the Armscor – Rock Island Armory lane.

The pistol holds six .380 rounds in each magazine. Rock Island Armory expects to ship this pistol by mid-2015. Currently, the company projects a suggested retail price of $459.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • Giolli Joker

    Any photo that compares it with a full size 1911?
    I’m quite surprised they couldn’t fit more than 6 rounds in the magazine, it doesn’t look that tiny.

    • M.M.D.C.

      It must be tiny. Browning got eight rounds in their 80% sized 1911-380.

      • Ben Loong

        According to the entry on the Armscor USA website, the dimensions on the Baby Rock are 6.5″ (165mm) x 5.5″ (140mm), which I find peculiar since that’s actually slightly shorter than a Bersa Thunder 380, but as tall as a full size 1911A1.

        I think the height figure may have a typo, otherwise they’re using a pretty low capacity magazine (which according to the website has a capacity of seven rounds).

        • M.M.D.C.

          “…they’re using a pretty low capacity magazine…”

          The lost space must be occupied by a large follower and spring. Puzzling.

          • Ben Loong

            Maybe, maybe not. The picture from the Guns and Ammo article doesn’t seem to indicate that the magazine’s got a particularly big follower.

          • sianmink

            Why would a 6rd mag have 6 holes? Seems like it should hold 7.

          • Giolli Joker

            The website says 7, actually… but I don’t know if they mean 6+1…

        • matthew_carberry

          I think those measurements are switched. A Colt Mustang is 4″ tall by 5.5″ long and that barrel is much longer. The Colt Government .380, which is about as big as this looks to be given the proportions, is a fat half inch taller than the Mustang and 3/4″ longer.

          That gives 4.75″ x 6.25″ or so for the Colt Govt (don’t have mine on me to check), which would be comparable to the Baby Rock’s stated (switched) dims of 5.5″ x 6.5″.

        • gunsandrockets

          I went looking at their website too. Couldn’t help but notice all the 1911 types now offered in 10mm!

      • Aaron E

        That is me in the picture. The overall size is noticeably smaller than a standard 1911, but the slide is longer than would be expected for a CCW marketed firearm.

        The grip is manageable and comfortable, but just barely. My medium sized hands swallowed it up and had just the slightest feeling that I didn’t have enough to grip – like a sub-compact handgun where your pinky finger is off the grip and the ring finger is barely there.

  • gunslinger

    might be a nice complement to my thunder380

    • ghost

      I was thinking maybe another Bersa Thunder .380 . But, not a bad price for the Rock Island .380.

  • chris lynch

    Curious to see how this develops. Esp size comparisons.

  • sianmink

    Looks way bigger than a mustang/238 so I’m wondering, why couldn’t it be 9mm? How does it only hold 6 when it looks to have a much longer grip than the also 6+1 238? (Seems clear from other pics and the website that the capacity is 7+1) Something just seems off about this critter.

    • Ethan

      Its smaller than it looks – its not scaled like a regular 1911 from what I can tell – its like a 3:4 version. (I think)

      • Alex Pei

        It looks like it’s based off the Colt Government 380, though with the grip safety added. It’s about time someone brought those back, though frankly I’d be more interested in a 9mm.

  • I can’t help but think that the designers were cribbing heavily from a Llama Micro Max.

  • gunsandrockets

    Cool. Competition for the Browning 1911-380.

  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    This is a very frustrating time to be a gun owner AND a reloader. I’ve managed to stay away from .380 my entire gun owning life, but now I want this gun AND the browning “right” .380.

  • ColaBox

    Im guessing this is a purse gun? Concealing a full sized 1911 isn’t very difficult. Though the weight tends to wear on you after a while.

    • Grindstone50k

      Some people don’t have large waistlines to hid large-framed guns in or have large butts for weighted-down belts to rest on.

  • john Everett Walker

    Why does it seem like it would cost about 200 more dollars if the slide were made of Steel instead of, like the downsized browning 1911s-some lightweight alloy from one of the BB-gun companies?? Hopefully it has a steel slide and an aircraft aluminum alloy frame like some other Arms cor products. This thing has been out for several months and nobody will reveal the metals used.

  • john Everett Walker

    Would be Interesting to know if the slide is steel or some sort of light-alloy. Practically, it would probably make no difference but a lot of old 1911 shooters balk at the zinc or aluminum slides that come from the BB-gun manufacturers.

  • matthew_carberry

    So it’s more comparable to the old Colt Government .380 (a 7+1 gun) but with all the Cylinder and Slide/MacDougall and Scott mods done at the factory.

  • Charles Newman

    Why?

  • TZH .

    how does it compare to the size of a P238 and a P3AT? the latter is unbeatable for ease of carry, the former is renowned for reliability. somewhere in between the Baby rock could find its place…

    • Sean

      If it is a Llama copy, it is about 20 percent bigger than a P238. Longer grip, longer barrel. Very comfortable.

      • TZH .

        thanks for the input. I was really praying for a P238 sized thing so it could disappear in my front pocket. However for the bigger guys the Llama pattern would suit em just fine.

  • Sean

    It appears to be a Llama .380 with a beavertail and good sights.

  • the ammo addict

    I handled it at SHOT and it is a sweet little gun, sits wonderfully in the hand just like the old Llama .380s. I’m glad someone finally picked up this concept again and improved it to boot.