Gun Review: Ares Defense SCR Carbine

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As we all know, the AR15 system is perhaps the most prolific gun platform of all time, with a seemingly infinite number of combinations of barrels, uppers, handguards, optics, and so on, ad infinitum. And while the vast majority of shooters can take advantage of this versatility offered by the “Barbie doll of guns“, many of us also live in “ban states,” or those states that have enacted some variation of the now-defunct federal 1994 “Assault Weapons Ban”. Unfortunately, for shooters in so-called ban states, there are restrictions in place that prohibit or severely limit a gun-owner’s ability to own an AR and capitalize on the expansive AR15 gun-gear-galaxy.
Enter the Ares SCR.
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The Ares SCR is compatible with a vast majority of AR15 uppers and their appurtenant accessories, and accepts standard (STANAG) AR15 magazines, however, what makes the SCR different than the common AR15 is the fact that it’s lower receiver uses a semi-grip, sporting stock instead of the standard AR15 collapsible stock-and-pistol-grip combination. (Note that your choice of accessories and magazines such as a flashhider and 30 round magazine may affect the legality of the use of the SCR in your state.  In other words, just because you can own the SCR in all 50 states does not mean that all accessories for the SCR are legal for use with the SCR in your state.)
In this way, the SCR is similar to the Ruger Mini-series, but it has the distinct advantage over the Mini-14 and Mini-30 of the already-mentioned available realm of AR15 parts and accessories.
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And the SCR’s appeal should not be limited to only those who live in ban states; as stated, the SCR should cut into the Ruger Mini market – those who want a lower-key rifle with, functionally, the same capabilities as the more aggressively-styled AR15 or those who just prefer the sport stock. In that regard, the SCR also recalls the Ruger PC, or Ruger “Police Carbine”, which some jokingly referred to as the Ruger “Politically Correct.”
The SCR has more advantages over the common AR that I will delve into below.

The SCR accepts standard AR bolts, but requires use of a proprietary bolt carrier.

 Specifications:

The SCR is available in .223/5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, and, of course, it’ll take .300BLK when you swap uppers. Note, however, that the SCR functions by way of a proprietary bolt, so your upper will have to function with one of Ares’ bolts in order to work. That should be all 5.56mm/.223 uppers, .300BLK, and the 7.62x39mm uppers if you get that larger bolt from Ares. That’s a lot of options.  Certainly, many of you familiar with the AR platform looked at the pictures of this gun and wondered what happened to the buffer tube/traditional AR recoil systems. In order to incorporate the sporting stock utilized by the ACR, Ares used a recoil system similar to that of most semi-auto shotguns or the FN-FAL. That is, the bolt carrier has an articulating tail, and the tail travels into a small tube in the stock that contains the recoil spring. Obviously, there’s no need for Ares to re-invent the wheel when they can just adopt a reliable and functional recoil system already in wide use.
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The proprietary bolt carrier from the SCR.

The SCR is 5.7lbs in stock 16.25″ configuration (with an option to get an 18″ barrel, as well), and has an overall length of 39 inches. The SCR has three stock choices “Sporter,” “Sporter-Short” (with a shorter length of pull), and a Monte Carlo stock option.  The 16 and 18 inch versions both include Magpul MOE handguards.  The SCR comes standard with a 5-round AR magazine. The upper features a MIL-STD 1913 flat top for optics mounting, which is good, because the standard-configuration ACR comes with no option for mounting iron sights, so you are going to have to pick up some glass (or a different upper) if you want to take the SCR to the range when you get it.
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MSRP is $865.00 as configured (minus the optic), and Ares has apparently decided to sell the lower separately, which will no doubt appeal to many who are interested in the SCR but don’t want the spartan upper that the complete model comes with.
General Observations:
Out of the box, the SCR had excellent fit and finish, on par with any quality AR. We hit the range with the SCR, which came configured for evaluation with an already-zeroed Leupold 1-5x optic recommended by Ares. The SCR’s performance was commendable.  Four rounds of one five-shot group even fit within .7 inches at 100 meters, and most of the five-round strings of 69gr match boat tail would hold within two inches at 100 meters. Accuracy was very impressive with the factory upper and 5x glass.
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PPU 69gr match performed the best by far of the rounds tested.

The SCR had a heavier than normal trigger – while travel was very short and weight was consistent, the pull was also consistently heavy.  Though this did not take a toll on accuracy because, so long as you put steady rearward pressure on the trigger, the shot would “surprise” you, mitigating any propensity to flinch, it is worth noting that it did take a toll on patience, as this translated to quite a wait before sending off a shot.
As stated, the SCR will accommodate your other AR uppers.  Just to test this, we slid a PSA stainless “Freedom” upper on the Ares, and sure enough, it ran perfectly, as one would expect. I will emphasize, however, that it isn’t a simple snap-and-pin procedure to get your upper on the SCR lower – the upper needs to be slid from the front of the lower receiver towards the back in order to make sure the rat-tail at the back of the bolt will seat with the recoil spring assembly in the stock. While you can drop the lower with the bolt installed directly onto the lower receiver and even snap the lower push-pins in place, the gun will not charge because the bolt will not be properly mated with the recoil assembly in the stock.  As the tail of the carrier may get hung up on the rear receiver plate of the lower, you have to align the tail of the bolt carrier with the recoil tube before snapping your upper in place.
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We installed a PSA “Dissipator”-style upper to see if the SCR worked with other uppers.  Everything worked reliably.

There were no failures to feed, eject, or extract in the approximately 200 rounds that we ran through the SCR at the range.
Negative Observations: 
While my experience with the SCR was generally positive, I had a few negative observations.
First, the trigger, as stated, is heavy – in excess of 10 pounds of pressure required to fire the gun. Accuracy was unaffected, obviously, but it was still unpleasant, and might affect the utility of the platform in situations other than range use. I imagine, however, that this can be resolved with a trip to the gunsmith or maybe even a little sandpaper.
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Second, the standard upper comes with no option to mount iron sights. This may not bother many people, but I prefer to have the option to use irons on an AR-style rifle out of the box. But then again, the beauty of the SCR: If you don’t like the upper on there, just swap it out. It’s that easy.
Third, the version I tested did not have a bolt hold open, either automatic (i.e. held open after the last round) or manual (e.g., the AR “ping pong paddle” or the Magpul B.A.D.).  This could be a significant absence for some shooters.
Finally, despite the fact that the SCR fed and extracted reliably, I had several misfires with my particular sample, which appeared to be due to light primer strikes.  While I theorized that the smaller hammer caused lighter strikes (the SCR hammer appears to be about half the thickness of the standard AR hammer, perhaps related or necessary to the unique design of the lower), I did a thorough internet search and found no other complaints of similar issues.  Moreover, ARES assured me that this was unusual and they believe it was relegated to the particular unit they sent me for review.
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One of the rounds that took a soft primer strike without detonating.

Conclusion:
In conclusion, I think the SCR is a revolutionary rifle.  Ares Defense has done quite a service for those shooters in ban states, who now, through the SCR, can now tap into the bounty of parts and accessories for the AR platform, constrained only by the limitations of the proprietary lower and bolt carrier (not to mention the laws of whatever state the shooter is in).
Out of the box, this gun can shoot sub-MOA groups with match ammo, but only after you fit the upper with an optic.  The sting of mandatory glass is dulled, however, by the reasonable MSRP of $865.  (Street price seems to be around $800).  Moreover, there is now the option to purchase the lower separately.
The only issue – the ten-plus-pound trigger – can probably be fixed, and is simply overshadowed by the gravity of this platform.  Notwithstanding this, the SCR runs reliably and shoots straight, but most importantly, the SCR affordably brings a myriad of options from the AR sector to those shooters who formerly had no access to them.  If this platform appeals to you, whether you live in a ban state or if you want the performance of an AR in a more modest package, the SCR is your solution.
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James Reeves

James Reeves is a licensed and practicing concealed weapons instructor, the winner of Maxim Magazine’s MAXIMum Warrior, a graduate of Front Sight, the Shooter Performance Institute, and Tier 1 Group, and is an Appleseed-qualified Rifleman. James previously owned and operated a gun shop in Tallahassee, FL and worked as a regional sales representative for distributor/importer, Interstate Arms Company. He is a coverage litigation attorney by day. James likes traveling with his wife, boating, America, photography, guns, gear he doesn’t really need, cold beer, and a little exercise here and there (James is also GORUCK Tough). Above all, James enjoys creating content for TFBTV. Follow James on Twitter @jjreeves.


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  • El Duderino

    I think a better comparo would have been with the SU-16 vs. a Mini-14.

  • TheSmellofNapalm

    Looks nice from here in CA. Holding out for the Desert Tech MDR with a 19″ barrel though….

    • Joshua

      You think Commiefornia will let you have an assault bullpup?

      • TheSmellofNapalm

        The state compliant model meets the length requirement.

  • blackspike2710

    Why no bolt catch?

  • sianmink

    I think one of the advantages that some might not be noticing is: With the sporter style stock, one can easily make use of low-rise optics that would be troublesome on an AR15. It’s not much difference, but reducing that normally large AR bore/sight offset can only be benificial.

    • James R.

      Excellent point. Thanks for this comment.

    • me ohmy

      but then again.. would’nt you need a high comb for a large objective scope??
      everything is a tradeoff in some small measure.

  • Phillip Shen

    I had a chance to shoot this on Saturday, and I have to say though, that trigger was very problematic. I kept thinking “was this thing on safe?” when pulling it back, and then boom, oh it wasn’t on safe! ARES needs to seriously fix that trigger.

    At the same range I also had a chance to try an AR with a thordsen stock, and while that stock didn’t feel quite as natural as the ARES, I could appreciate that at least with a thordsen, getting replacement trigger parts are easy since it just needs to fit in any Mil Spec lower.

    Anyways, that trigger for me was a pretty serious issue. Like for instance, it made me not mind my own bullet button, or as stated previously, the thordsen or other featureless options.

    • Ethan

      Agreed. I’m sure Timney or Giselle will put out an aftermarket shortly..

    • Cymond

      “it made me not mind my own bullet button”
      OUCH!
      I hated the bullet button with a passion, enough that I spent extra to go ‘featureless’. It must be a truly awful trigger to inspire that kind of distaste.

  • ClintTorres

    It’s a great concept.

    I’m a “form follows function” type of guy but this thing is fugly.

    • FourString

      much of that is the carbine length upper that comes with it lol

    • allannon

      I don’t know that there’s anything to be done about appearance. ARs are pretty fugly guns, and when you strap the front end of an AR to a sporter butt it’s just gonna look funky.

    • nadnerbus

      I sort of agree, in that any attempt to make an AR look more traditional just tends to look like some sort of strange chimera. But Ares has done the best job of any of the other similar alternatives of pulling it off, in my opinion.

  • wetcorps

    Would it work with an AR57 upper? That would look… interesting.

    • me ohmy

      wet dude.. it looks like a standard AR-15 upper..
      the 5,7 UPPER NEEDS A BOLT TO ACTION STRAIGHT LINE INTO THE BUFFER TUBE.. so nope.. I dont think it will man. A dedicated 22LR upper sure.. but not something very different like the 5.7 set up. these rifles use a different spring set up and rat tail.. like an FN-FAL. so it heads downward at an angle..not straight back.

      • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

        The bolt carrier still moves back in a straight line. The tail is what follows the angle down into the stock. The carrier stays in the upper the entire time, horizontally.

        • me ohmy

          yeah, I got that part, and since the 5.7 upper just is a total blowback and REPLACES THE BUFFER AND BUFFER SPRING, with a propriatary set.. this is not compatable with them.
          it relies on the standard straight buffer set up to allow full stroke and return.
          thanks but I’ve played with the 5.7 uppers enough times to know how they roll, and what the engineering quirks were, in both platforms, as them and the SCR design.

          • Liberty Krueger

            Still I wouldn’t think making a SCR specific AR57 blowback bolt would be to difficult, especially if a lot of people requested it. Remember the SCR is meant to re-open the AR option to all those poor sods unfortunate enough to live in one of the many silly states that think that criminals like “scary” looking rifles, which they clearly do not. Aero Precision Inc. is a small niche company that mills all there own parts. So they would only need to sell a few of them to make it worth the investment.

  • echelon

    Revolutionary?!? More like: Gun for fudds and slaves.

    Keep in mind: I am not one who thinks these things are a big “up yours” to The Man. I am of the opposite line of thinking. I think all this does is lend credence to their out of whack statutes. It sends the message that when they say “jump” the industry will ask “how high” and then bend to their will.

    The real solution is to not comply en masse.

    • me ohmy

      when you don’t get to live in a slave state.. you’d still deny us??
      thank you for living in a nice state and chucking us into the shreader lumped in as a fudd.

      • echelon

        No offense, as I’m sure you’re a nice person, but your reasoning and logic make you sound like a sheep.

        I’m not denying you anything. It’s your “government”, who, last time I checked, were supposed to be in the business of serving the citizens, not the other way around, that are denying you.

        Your slavery is soft enough that, at least for now, you can still leave your state and go live in a free-er state. Whatever the excuse for not going and doing that is your own, but rest assured if your basic human rights are not important enough to make drastic life changing decisions for then pray tell what is?

        And if buying this mewling quim version of an AR makes you feel better and sleep tighter, then by all means go for it.

        • me ohmy

          “mewling quim” oh a LOKI quote from a MOVIE???
          AHAHahahahahahahahahaaaaa..
          okay buddy, step away from the keyboard, you had ENTIRELY too much hubris and you need to walk that off, before driving on the information highway.
          got bad news for ya dude..sometimes you need to do a work around for the stupid stuff you need to deal with, you might not have noticed but the democrats got their sh*t waxed. we now have a REPUBLICAN governor in MD(rare), and also if I shot you with this versus an m-16 or an AR-15, the bullet from that 223/5.56 catridges gives not one single thought about what it came from.
          and, I garner you didnt gander at my previous stuff.. WIFE IS CAREER GOV, she has a good position and in that, of which you don’t need to know..her particular thing ISN’T availiable in all states. again, you don’t need to know the particulars.
          so please do to be not sounding like an upstart ass..thank you come again.
          p.s. stop suckin on that bottle of hubris..not everyone lives in a shangra la, like your burg.
          P.P.S. don’t be the motherfudder, who says OTHERS are fudds. Maryland ISNT all blue Dude, only certain areas and they hold the vote majority, enough to tip the dems.

          • Cymond

            echeleon denigrates those who would benefit from this carbine, while simultaneously praising the SB-15 arm brace. I find it ironic because both products are technically legal while still closely emulating the restricted firearms that people really want.
            Doubtless he can justify his views to himself, but it looks like hypocrisy to me.

          • echelon

            My aim is not to denigrate anyone but the government who wishes to control and rule us. The fact is that nobody benefits from this carbine except the government and the company who can make some profit off of it.

            Think about it. If they can rule today that you can’t have a pistol grip or a 30rd mag then who’s to say that they won’t rule against this carbine tomorrow?

            The Sig brace is different. People are and were going to shoulder that thing no matter what. Buying it isn’t a stick in the man’s eye per se, but using it “in a matter not intended” surely is. The perception and reality that potentially millions of people will have unregistered “SBRs” and there won’t be blood in the streets. But even then, it’s only from an ideological standpoint that the laws will be shown to be useless. Someone actually has to either go and challenge the laws and go through all the kangaroo processes or the end users need to stand up en masse and not comply.

            TL;DR: The answer is not in a carbine the answer is in masse non-compliance. Yes that means potentially getting in trouble. If one person does it. Yer in the slammer. If a handful of people do it, they get rounded up. If hundreds of thousands if not millions of people do it? The government sits back and listens.

          • Cymond

            “My aim is not to denigrate anyone but the government who wishes to control and rule us.”
            Dude, you literally called them “fudds and slaves”. We must have different ideas about what constitutes an insult.

            “The fact is that nobody benefits from this carbine except the government and the company who can make some profit off of it.”
            And those who have no better (legal) alternative. As you said yourself, “If one person does it. Yer in the slammer.” Our culture is not at the point of mass noncompliance.
            Oh, and it also benefits anyone who simply prefers a traditional stock layout. How many Mini-14s does Ruger sell each year? From what I read, the SCR should only cost about $200 more, but is far more versatile, customizable, and significantly more accurate (if what I’ve read about the Mini-14’s accuracy is true). If they can get these out in reasonable quantities, I think it has the potential to completely devour the Mini-14’s market share.

            “Think about it. If they can rule today that you can’t have a pistol grip or a 30rd mag then who’s to say that they won’t rule against this carbine tomorrow?”
            We had this same basic argument before, but I never got around to responding to you. I dislike debating back & forth.
            How would they rule against this carbine? We’ve already shown that banning specific guns by naming their Make & Model doesn’t work because those things can be changed. It’s why a Colt AR-15 is illegal in CA, but other AR-15 style firearms are legal as long as they’re not on the Kasler list and don’t have any banned features.
            Banning it’s features? How? It doesn’t really have any features. They’d basically have to unilaterally ban all semi-auto rifles, and I still don’t think that would hold up to any serious judicial scrutiny. Even the worst places in the country still have to work around a complete ban like banning certain features, restricting capacity, ownership licensing (which is slowly becoming less restrictive due to court victories), etc. I’m not aware of a single unilateral ban of any broad type of common firearm in the US. (Although admittedly, I suspect that most of the things restricted under the NFA would be common if not for the NFA itself, but that’s still not a unilateral, unconditional ban.)

            And I still think your last 2 paragraphs could mostly be rewritten to apply to the SCR. Both designs follow the letter of the law while undermining the spirit of the law.
            (Well, except that the ATF seems to be reversing their official stance on the Sig brace … or not. I just learned about the new opinion letter today, and still trying to make sense of it. There’s a lot of differing interpretations of their letter running around.)

          • echelon

            Jesus himself called the Pharisees a brood of vipers, whitewashed tombs, hypocrites, liars. It’s evident that the Pharisees were highly insulted. In fact they were insulted so much they sought to kill him.

            Now, I’m not comparing myself to JC in any way, I’m merely pointing out that sometimes calling a spade a spade is necessary for some to realize the truth and reality of things.

            Over the course of time there were some Pharisees who accepted Jesus’ words and looked inwardly and realized that what he said about them was true. And they changed.

            If one chooses to own an SCR and they feel that by doing so it is their best choice and to be “lawful” in their current situation, then by all means they should do so. Unfortunately all it really is is an illusion…

            I suppose wanting the thing due to having a more traditional stock is a matter of personal subjectivity and taste. Once again, I don’t have a problem with the gun per se, although I will admit to being pretty hard on it, perhaps unduly. It definitely not my cup of tea. My real problem is with people foisting the thing up and touting it as some symbol of freedom or something. The whole “take that The Man” attitude coming from some regarding this thing is just silly.

            Asking how would they rule against this carbine is like asking why a frightened animal bites or attacks. The answer is it is they’re nature. Government is about control. Gun Control is not about the gun it’s about control.

            Again, look at the foolishness of the NFA and whole brace thing. You take essentially, from a force multiplier standpoint, the same exact weapon – 30+ capacity, short barrel (maneuverable, concealable), rifle round – and you have this brace (which can be shouldered) and you somehow have something that is deemed acceptable for lowly servant class use and recreation.

            You take that same weapon and put a fixed stock or folding stock on it and now incredibly, magically, automatically it becomes a restricted item and is now deemed “evil” by the overlords and ruling class. But the force multiplier of either weapon is exactly the same. So what’s the logic behind the law? It’s about control, then and now, not about the weapon.

            So how could they conceivably try to restrict the SCR? I don’t know but you could ask Feinstein, Bloomberg, Holder, Watts, Brady, Giffords, etc and I’m sure they would all be able to give you a reason they would want it banned or restricted for one reason or another.

            So in the end, does this thing have the right to exist? Well Hi-points and R51s exist so I suppose we can let this contraption into the fold as well…but does it warrant all the praise its’ getting for beings some light in the darkness of slave states? In my opinion, no. And I’m ok that you disagree with me. 🙂

          • echelon

            Hey, I didn’t mean to intrude on your fairy tale land, sir. You can go right along with your left/right government philosophy. It won’t bother me any. They are the opposite side of the same coin. It doesn’t matter who gets “waxed” when, the outcome will be the same. The ending to this story was already written 200+ years ago.

            It seems obvious that your wife’s career in government is more important in the long run than your sacred rights. If that’s your choice, that’s fine. And if you need to go buy a hamstrung gun to feel bolstered by that decision, then go for it. Just don’t go try telling other folks that this weapon design is some stick in the eye of the pols for heavens’ sake!

            Yep, getting shot by a single bullet of the same caliber by a different gun doesn’t make much difference. And if the reality of the world was that I would potentially only ever face one threat at a time then I’m sure 10 rounds would be sufficient, heck maybe even 5 would be A-OK. But if you have multiple threats coming at you at once you’re going to wish you had a standard mag. So…not really a valid argument for me, but if it suits you then roll with it. Life is all about choices and risk mitigation.

            P.S. I don’t live in Shangri-la. Even though my state isn’t as dumb as your state, apparently, my state is still plenty dumb. The whole country is last time I checked.

            P.P.S. Hummus tastes good out of a bottle…oh you said hubris…I’ve never tried that, I’ll have to some time.

            P.P.P.S. That Loki line is pure gold. I’ve asked Joss Whedon for permission to riff on it as I please. 🙂

          • me ohmy

            *SMFH*.. I didnt read all that.. it was entirely too full of self agrandizing and self promotial defeatism.
            since you like quoting famous people.. “allow me to retort” Jules PULP FICTION
            ” Lead me, follow me, or get the hell out of my way.” GEORGE S PATTON

          • echelon

            That is fine. I’m confident letting my comments stand, as I’m sure you are yours as well. Good day and carry on…

          • me ohmy

            standing on a manure pile.. yeap.. your ‘s are “standing” alrighty

          • me ohmy

            P.S. AKA BUTTHURT

          • echelon

            I am truly sorry that you feel that way. I encourage you to find a remedy to your situation.

          • me ohmy

            repeat butthurt…LMAO

          • echelon

            I heard your name the first time, no need to repeat. 😉

          • me ohmy

            still grasping at some small modicum of whining…and not winning.
            pitiful, simply pitiful..

          • echelon

            Not sure what you’re going on about. You came in here seemingly wanting to have a 1st grade level conversation so I was just merely bringing my vocabulary down to that level so we could both understand each other.

            I’d much rather have civil adult conversations though.

          • Menger40

            +1 upvote for your reference to “driving on the information highway”

    • sdelcegno

      that makes no sense. How to you give an up yours to the state you cant even buy an ar15 in? this is basically an ar15 in every way shape of form minus pistol grip. its proving their laws are nonsense. and annoys them at the same time.

      • sdelcegno

        It also shows they cant continue to make up stupid rules to ban more guns. this is an ar15 and a hunting type rifle design in one. they basically cant get any stricter in their bans without the supreme court ruling its unconstitutional. you couldnt ban this gun without banning every semi auto basically. how is that not sticking it to the state.

        • Tom

          (trying my best to to steer clear of politics and stay on the issue of laws) Politicians always think the answer to any problem is “one more law”. On the one hand what Ares have done shows that engineering can overcome laws based on cosmetic considerations but the problem is there are those who wish to look at bans/restrictions based on function (ie. semi).

          At the moment the Supreme Court might be considered to be on friendly terms with the gun owning community but this may not last. I think the best way to avoid further restrictions is to rely on the political process rather than rely on the courts.

      • echelon

        It doesn’t annoy them at all. It just shows them that the masses will bow and cave to their every whim and desire.

        Think of the power to wield that causes companies to craft products solely based on the words you enacted in a statute. That’s a power that people can get drunk on.

        What proves that gun laws are nonsense are guns that CONTRADICT the law itself. Like in Australia where most guns are banned and they find all sorts of examples of home made DIY sub machine guns and such. That proves that their laws are nonsense, not complying with them.

    • Grindstone50k

      Obviously someone who does not live in one of these ban states.

      • echelon

        “Obviously someone who does not live in one of these slave states.”

        There, I fixed it for you. And you are precisely right. You couldn’t pay me to live in one of them.

        Always remember: We have the government we deserve. That holds true from the national level all the way down to state and local.

        • Grindstone50k

          … k

  • me ohmy

    WANT!!!!!!!!!!
    just to flip the bird to my communist state aholes in MARYLAND

  • schizuki

    Yeah, that’s just… odd.

  • schizuki

    Ingenious. If I still lived in New York, I’d be happier today. Fortunately, I live in Maine, fifteen minutes south of Cabelas and 45 minutes north of Kittery Trading Post, so I’m always happy.

    • DIR911911 .

      winter is coming . . . . . florida is still warm though

  • schizuki

    The AR-15 is not a Barbie Doll, it’s a Mr. Potato Head.

  • Menger40

    I think it looks sweet. Definitely more customization options than a Mini-14 (just taking ar15 mags is huge), and unlike an SU-16 you’ll probably be able to purchase one of these. Shame about the trigger, though.

  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    I don’t know why I want this so much, but I REALLY hope someone makes or sells a modified 9mm bolt for these. I’d love to shoot 9mm out of one of these. I’m strange though.

    • allannon

      I’m with you on that…and I don’t know why.

    • JohnnyBGood

      because 9mm has become the new 22lr in some ways

  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    In articles like these everyone always shows off the bolt… But why can’t we get pictures of the lower internals?!!? That’s what I’m really curious about!

  • Tony

    The safety is a cross-bolt type, right? I’m reading this on my phone, but I didn’t see a normal AR-style safety in the pictures. And I’m guessing there is no left-handed replacement?

    • James R.

      Tony,

      Yes, I should have specified. This is a cross-bolt. I don’t know about the lefty replacement, but I would be kind of surprised given how new this platform is.

  • As a sporting gun, this seems like a good option for those in restricted areas.

    I don’t think it would do well in something like a carbine course, however, considering how dramatically they reduced the mass ratio.

    Also, what’s with all the super-heavy triggers these days?

  • FourString

    You will need a bullet button though, as it is a semi auto rifle with a pistol grip

    • TheSmellofNapalm

      What do you want me to do, move out-of-state halfway through college? It will still be better than no rifle at all

      • FourString

        Just train with the bullet button, wear a bracelet with a key/bullet to your wrist, to get fast at mag changes. You’re actually talking to a Californian… -.-

  • Grindstone50k

    I have it from a very high authority that the lack of a pistol grip means that this rifle is now at least 86% less dangerous when hip firing.

  • Michael R. Zupcak

    I like it a lot but I wish they’d used a cooler looking stock like the one Magpul makes for the Remington 870.

  • Michael R. Zupcak

    “In conclusion, I think the SCR is a revolutionary rifle.” I don’t know about ‘revolutionary’
    “Ares Defense has done quite a service for those shooters in ban states, who now, through the SCR, can now tap into the bounty of parts and accessories for the AR platform” Already could through available AR configurations

  • uisconfruzed

    Why didn’t they use a milspec trigger?
    A Geissele would fix it right up.

    • Cymond

      A milspec trigger would sit very far forward in the trigger guard. The trigger reach would be quite long.

      • FourString

        ^Kind of like the Saiga sporter rifles
        Interestingly, that one has a long trigger pull too

  • me ohmy

    exactly…I made sure I had a good armory before they went full on stupid.. but what about the guys coming into the sport after me… they are screwed totally. if my wife wasnt career gov with a good position.. I’d be the hell out of the peoplez republik der maryland, the less then free state

  • nadnerbus

    When I first was looking to buy a 5.56 semi here in California back in 2003 or so, pretty much the only options were the mini 14 and the Keltec SU16. The SU 16 just seemed, and still seems to me, to be a little on the light and flimsy side for hard use (though still a cool rifle for what it brings to the table), so it left me with the mini.

    I’m not sure what 2003 me would think about this option, but I’d have to think pretty hard about it, considering the much higher price of mini mags versus AR mags, the much greater optic mounting capability of this rifle over the mini, and better out of the box accuracy (at least compared to the 186 series I got back then). Good on Ares for finding a market niche and addressing it pretty well.

  • UCSPanther

    I like the idea. Reminds me of the Valmet Hunter…

  • me ohmy

    this is an over the counter sale.
    and I don’t need another AR-15..
    I want something different.

  • me ohmy

    most venders won’t send over ten round mags to md.. but thanks for telling the rest of the people how md works.. I’ve lived here since 1974..so yep..I’ve had my fill of the place

  • dan citizen

    “the AR15 system is perhaps the most prolific gun platform of all time”

    At 10% of the number of AK’s made, it’s pretty far from the top, actually. Heck, the lowly UZI family was adopted by 90 countries.

    • James R.

      Correct. The context of the review was domestically, but I should have specified. Good catch.

      • dan citizen

        In that context, then absolutely it is the most prolific, by a huge margin. It is hard to imagine a rifle more iconic in America.

        Fantastic article on a neat rifle. I know plenty of people, ranchers and such, that prefer the more “traditional” ergonomics of rifles like this, the Kel Tec Su’s

  • Pete Sheppard

    The part I like best is the recent announcement that they will sell separate lowers…

  • echelon

    I am not against the gun in practical terms. My arguments are fully philosophical in nature. I’m against the main reason for their existence.

    But as far as the actual gun goes, not my cup of tea but to each our own right? Product choice is a good thing.

  • James R.

    Great questions.

    1) No AR ‘sproing’ at all, which I actually kind of miss since it makes it easy to know when you have run dry;

    2) No. I think it is possible, but the CH is very close to where you put your hand to grip the stock.

    Bonus) Since there is no manual or auto BHO, there is no bolt release.

  • BattleshipGrey

    Wow… I had never heard about that one. What kind of “logic” did they use to justify that reg?

  • J.T.

    Needs a case deflector. The way it is now it looks like it could potentially send the brass right into the face of a left handed shooter.

  • Vuddha Tran

    How funny would it be if someone were to release a pistol grip/collapsible stock adapter kit for this?

  • me ohmy

    they should at least have the ability to add one on later if preferred.

  • me ohmy

    dude.. they almost EXACTLY cut and pasted the 1994 GCA ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN..CALIFORNIA VERSION.
    the MD bill lists guns that have been off the market for damn nigh forever.. but they insisted “THOSE GUNS” were a threat as well, so the ONLY AR-15 allowed is an HBAR… and yeah…they actually said HBAR like COLT designation… retarded lawmakers never should speak on things they are ignorant about.

  • Riot

    Something about it looks really intriguing to me.
    Sorta retro futuristic steam punk with that trigger and magwell combination.

  • Thamuze Ulfrsson

    I like, but I’d like to see a tactical version based off of an AR-18.

  • J-

    When did ARES change their policy on shipping just SCR lowers?

  • JG

    I like this rifle, although I will say that the NYPD has deemed this rifle illegal to possess in NYC. I know someone who had requested a letter from Ares Armor stating that this is NOT an AR15 in hopes to get “permission” to own it in NYC, but that letter has not yet been received. This rifle would be a very big seller in NYC, but unfortunately the NYPD says its an AR15 and therefore, illegal to own.

    On another note, I will be looking forward to hearing about some trigger options as 10lbs is unacceptable.

  • Liberty Krueger

    Without the need for a standard buffer tube sticking out the back, this lower would provide a great foundation for an AR pistol. I wonder if Ares Defense would consider offering something like that. Or maybe just the parts to convert existing SCRs from rifle to pistol and back again.

  • echelon

    I appreciate your thoughtful comment. And while we agree that people need to stand up and express their rights, it seems that we may disagree in the means and ways to do that.

  • Randy Kiffner

    Anybody know if it had standard takedown/pivot pins, or are they proprietary?

  • tincankilla

    as someone who grew up shooting sporter stocks in the field on BB guns, .22s, and hunting rifles, this is a welcome option even if i slapped a 30 round mag in there. pistol grips have taken some getting used to.