Petse sent us a link to photos of Australian Commandos at a range in the UAE before they deploy to Iraq to fight ISIS. The above photo in particular caught his eye. It is a 12″ barrel HK417 with a painted Elcan SpecterDR 1-4x optic and AN/PEQ-155. Nifty.

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  • Seburo

    12 inch barrel? *snark* That’s more then enough evidence to declare rounds smaller then 7.52×51 Nato dead.

  • Samson

    Now THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT … if I could have only one gun but anything I wanted, this would be FINE with me! Although this optic would not be my first choice I would happily use it!

    • Anonymoose

      I’d rather have the 20″ barreled HK417A2, or a Mk17 with a 20″ barrel for the folding stock.

  • Nicks87

    .308 out of a 12″ barrel is still more powerful than 7.62×39 or 300blk

    • Sam Levi

      Which, at the range you would use an SBR, is irrelevant

  • JumpIf NotZero

    That’s cute on your energy estimates of 7.62 vs 6.8 and 300blk. Perhaps you’d like to back those up using a ballisitic calculator?

    And since when do you think military units can just “pick” some caliber. There is a ton of commonality in 7.62×51 and zero in 6.8 or 300blk.

    A 12″ suppressed AR-10 type gun seems pretty ideal to me if your unit is kicking in doors all the time.

    • toms

      I get what you are saying but does an extra 200-250ftlbs of energy really make a big difference especially when you consider the downsides of .308 in general which are weight, ammo, capacity ect? I don’t think it does especially at short ranges like in room clearing. The fireball and concussion from a short barrel .308 is really something in an enclosed space, that necessitates a suppressor. That gun that guy is running probably weighs 13lbs when fully kitted out easy. Sorry not a fan of super heavy guns especially in urban environments.

  • Yellow Devil

    Hard to tell without seeing it up close, but it appears to be Multicam, which although technically geared more toward Afghanistan, will probable do just fine. It’s better than the ACU pattern in Iraq.

    • Tassiebush

      Yeah either it’s original multicam or the new Australian version of it which has some auscam colors added to it.

  • SP mclaughlin

    Note the different magwell fencing below the upper receiver, this is definitely a Hk417.

  • Grindstone50k

    Probably because Iraq isn’t purely monochromatic desert.

  • Nicks87

    That’s kind of an old way of thinking. Nowdays people have figured out that you dont really lose much by shortening the barrel of most rifles. Shorter barrels are more rigid and have less “whip” when fired and are lighter and easier to maneuver in tight quarters or dense vegitation. 10.5 being about the shortest I would go, too short and then you will get into that territory where you really lose a lot of velocity.

    • Seburo

      Mall Ninjas don’t know physics or engineering. Just that 300 BLK is the best thing since 4.6×30 mm/5.7×28/6.8 SPC/insert round here.

  • Gidge

    Fantastic paint job.

  • USMC03Vet

    I applaud anyone willing to go shoot ISIS scum in the face. Thank you Aussies for showing the civilized world there are still some willing to fight for it.

  • USMC03Vet

    Camo in urban environments is simply a means to identify friend from foe. Going with such a identifiable distinct and foreign pattern compared to what the enemy is using is a good thing.

  • Grindstone50k

    How could they? They’re not super Murican operating operators!

  • mig1nc

    And yet there are so many people on the .300Blk bandwagon. It’s just a 7.62 bullet with less powder behind it.

    • 1911a145acp

      Totally utterly wrong….

      • mig1nc

        I’m not being very specific, of course. But the fact is 147gr .308 is going to be ~500fps or more faster than a 147gr .300Blk out of a 16 in barrel. Yes, there are bullets on the market today made specifically for that cartridge, but that’s a different discussion. However I’m NOT saying it isn’t just fine for its intended purpose.

    • Kivaari

      The .300 Blk, is really a whimpy round. But at living room engagement distances it doesn’t matter. It makes sense for a suppressed carbine. In open combat the small .30 caliber rounds are not as good as a 5.56mm.

  • mig1nc

    Yeah, two pictures to the right of the one in this article and you can actually read “7.62” on the magazine.

  • Sid Collins

    Operation OKRA. As a Southern-American, I approve this message.

  • Morgan Putnam

    It is awesome to see a photo of a place I’ve been on TFB. That range is a bit over 100m, and is a huge sloped pit in the sand. Hotter than blue blazes down on the 25 meter line. Shot the Aug full auto down there. Most fun I had the whole tour.

  • Esh325

    No, a .308 definetely has more power compared to those cartridges out of that barrel length. And who says they are shooting full powered .308 out if it? They could be shooting reduced power loads.

    • Kivaari

      That is a good observation. Spain and Japan used reduced power loads in the battle rifles. The rifles could be set to use full power loads if desired.

  • Kivaari

    A rifle bullet or shotgun load will not knock a person down. When people get hit in the armor by a 7.62x54mmR, they drop out of a desire to make themselves less of a target. The energy of a bullet will not knock a man down. It has been demonstrated quite a few times. Now if I could remember the name of the video from 20 years ago, I’d send you that way.

  • Kivaari

    Its better than the ARPAT.