Heizer Defense Pocket AK and Pocket “Sniper” .308 Due Soon

Our own Richard Johnson is reporting that Heizer Defense, make of the the pocket DoubleTap pistol calibers and single-shot .223 handgun is set to release the Pocket AK 7.62×39 and Pocket “Sniper” .308 handguns. Retail is reported to be $429 and $499 for the x39 and x51, respectively.


On a personal note, I doubt the sanity of anyone shooting those cartridges in anything that small. At least the .500 S&W has a beefy pistol to help with some of the recoil. These are just insane toys (that make them highly desirable to me).

Nathan S

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


  • William Johnson

    I recommend gloves and tinted glasses for the fireball that you will get from all the powder that will burn right in front of the “barrel”.

    • FourString

      Civilian legal flashbang

    • johngalts_brother

      Make that “right in front of their nose…hopefully”.

    • Yellow Devil

      It doubles as an emergency flare.

    • Zebra Dun

      short barrel flame thrower.

  • MANG

    Ballistics by the Inch tested .223 velocities down to a 3″ barrel, velocity a bit above 1100 fps: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/223rifle.html

    • iksnilol

      A bit shorter barrel and you can avoid the supersonic crack. That would make it perfect for suppressor use.

      • noob

        baffle erosion.

      • Risky

        as would any other pistol cartridge…….

        • iksnilol

          But that isn’t tactical. With a 5.56 pistol and rifle you only need one type of cartridge.

          • Tassiebush

            If they could make a translucent silencer then the .223 with such a short barrel would be slow enough that you could use the muzzle flash to illuminate the target 😉

          • iksnilol

            Neever thought about that… Think of the possibilities and weight savings. Instead of a flashlight just carry extra ammo.

          • Tassiebush

            I’d better patent it before someone beats me to it!

          • lucusloc

            Brilliant! That way we can see if what we just shot was the target! This will revolutionize hunting an warfare.

            “HALT, show some ID! *blam* *blam* Oh hi Bob, let me just call the medic for you. . . “

          • iksnilol

            You don’t need to shoot them, just shoot right next to them, the light allows you to ID them and then decide whether to shoot them or not. 😉

          • lucusloc

            Ah, but without a light, how would you know where to shoot? Better to just spray down the whole area. Not only will this provide a lot of light, but you also guarantee that most of the rounds will miss!

          • Tassiebush

            If the barrel could be ported to further reduce velocity and a reflector fitted behind those ports then the translucent silencer built with an expansion chamber that overlapped the barrel the charge can pre illuminate the target and the bullet could be so slow you can adjust point of aim before it exits barrel. I’m rushing to local patent office 1st thing Monday!

          • lucusloc

            Pretty sure if the bullet is going that slow it would not be a danger to the target, so that problem is sorted even with poor reflexes (and tha assumes the bullet even gets to the target). One benefit is you get even more flash though, so that pare is more effective.

          • lucusloc

            You should also give it a full auto switch, that way we get a more consistent light source.

          • Tassiebush

            Great idea! Let’s all join forces on developing this! Well be rich!

          • lucusloc

            I’m all in. Where do I sign?

          • iksnilol

            You see the moving blob? Don’t shoot it but shoot in its direction. There you have it. I wonder if that guy patented his idea?

      • BryanS

        Thats a good way to make a can go all ‘splodey.

        • iksnilol

          You just need a fast twist on the barrel (really fast twist) and a can with high volume.

          • BryanS

            LIke OJ in the Naked Gun 2?

    • dan citizen

      right up there with .32 auto.

      If only somebody made a compact .32 or .380 in this size range for less than $500

  • Laserbait

    I will get one of the 223 versions, but I’m not sure about the 308.

  • tony

    Why not a .50 BMG pocket pistol?

    • wetcorps

      Because the cartridge alone doesn’t fit most pockets?

    • Tim Pearce

      Probably in the works.

    • gunslinger

      was going to ask the same thing

    • Mark Hillard

      Someone has already made one

  • andrey kireev

    308 out of a small barrel like this… that doesn’t seem very safe at all… it’s gonna have to have a full size grip just of you to hold on to the darn thing…..it’s probably just gonna fly right back at you the second you fire…

    • Matt L.

      Recoil probably won’t be that bad, since the vast majority of the powder will probably burn outside of the barrel (at least, this is what I’ve heard re: the .223 version).

      • William Baker

        Yeah I thought my t-53 mosin has a fireball, I imagine a 308 out of one of these is gonna look crazy. But I don’t want to pay that much for a firework/toy and I think thats how useful these are to me.

  • Mazryonh

    Someone needs to record the use of these derringers with a high-speed camera just to catch the size of the fireball as it forms when they are fired.

  • Ken

    These are rifle rounds with powder that burns slower than pistol powder. The slug should have left the barrel before most of the powder has burned, so there will be an impressive fireball. The unburned powder mass will contribute some to the recoil though.

    On the plus side, it’s a single shot. You can’t accidentally double tap it if you lose control. If it flies out of your hand while recoiling, the worst it can do is fly into someone.

  • noob

    hmm. used at contact range, would this thing inject a huge ball of burning powder into the body of the target, rendering the actual bullet superfluous?

  • MountainKelly

    Silly. It’s like a .45-70 derringer only LESS practical.

  • Dr. Daniel Jackson

    For the .308 version I predict a lot of broken wrists and a lawsuit or two.

  • The Real Teal’c

    Nothing like a .308 pistol neutered to the awesome fury of a .38 special. Proof people will buy anything.

  • Don Ward

    I think holding a loose .308 round in your hand and wrapping the primer with a nail would make more sense.

    • gunsandrockets

      At least cheaper!

    • Zebra Dun

      Holding an old M-80 firecracker while it went off might be comparable.

  • Neil Tarasoff

    This is one really stupid idea!

  • MR

    Ha! Was trying to figure out how to justify dropping 4-5 bills on a single shot oddity, when I remembered I have a cheap old AR barrel chopped down to about 3/4″ of rifling. Figure it’ll mostly be paired with my 22lr conversion, but a round or two of 5.56 might light up the evening sky on occasion. Plugs, muffs, and safety glasses, to be sure!

  • Zachary marrs
  • Tom Currie

    Safe… Probably
    Stupid… Certainly

    • kipy

      Do I want one…No
      Do I want to see them in action…Hell yes!

  • Tassiebush

    Hmm praps if the rifling had a very fast rate of twist it could still stabilize it. Probably something nuts like 1in 5 inches though!

  • gunsandrockets

    Because obviously iksnilol was deadly serious about suppressing a 2 inch barreled .223!

  • sam

    Pocket Elk: 7mm Rem Mag
    Pocket Billy Dixon: 45-90 Sharps
    Pocket Dangerous Game: 500 Nitro Express
    Pocket Industrial Kiln: 8 Gauge slug

    • Rogier Velting

      Pocket Benchrest: 6mm PPC
      Pocket Sniper Competitor: 6.5mm Creedmoor

    • gunslinger

      .577 T-rex?

    • William Wallace


      Make a pocket 30mm Vulcan cannon that fires the same shell as the one from the A-10 Warthog. That would be a starter.

      Then go ahead and make a pocket 155mm Howitzer for the big boys. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

  • UCSPanther

    Fireballs and massive muzzle blasts are a given…

  • Beaumont

    What. The. Hell?

  • dan citizen

    .223 out of one of these is getting about 1,100 fps… so somewhere near .32 auto power levels.

    .308 may even get up into .380 range

  • jeff k

    308 out of a 1″ bbl ….derp ……neva been done befoa ….derp …hmmm i know someone else who makes stupid guns like this one

  • Anonymoose

    Just give me a .410 one and make Dragon’s Breath rounds for it. -_-

  • Anonymoose

    It’s a 240mm, actually. 😀

  • J.T.

    I have heard that saying said about Obrez pistols in the past.

  • lucusloc

    lol, genius.

  • J.T.

    “Heizer Defense, make of the the pocket DoubleTap pistol”

    This needs corrected, Heizer doesn’t make the DoubleTap pistol.

    That reminds me, I wonder what ever happened with DoubleTap and Heizer suing each other?

  • Tassiebush

    I think I read somewhere that those rounds would need individual ATF registration and tax stamp so prohibitively expensive which is a shame if correct because that round would be cool in one.

  • Hey, just what I always knew I never wanted… Fantastical.

  • Beju

    Eh, why not? I never liked my wrists anyway.

  • sometrend

    Now you have to ask yourself…why? Although 1 of these little critters in 308,loaded with BW36 powder could double as a marine flare!

  • MrApple

    $500 for a single shot handgun? No thank you.

  • Mark Hillard

    Sub sonic ammo for me

  • Nicholas Feeley

    …And as there’s now a .308 *handgun* what does that do for the legalities of ammo now?

  • Zebra Dun

    My old and sorely missed Ruger .44 magnum 1973 three click hammer cocking handgun was a pain in the ast to shoot more than a few rounds, this, this is just insane!
    I would like to shoot one….once.