10 Foot “Sniper Rifle”

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From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2859301/ISIS-s-latest-killing-machine-10-foot-sniper-rifle-fire-bullets-three-times-size-normal-gun.html

It’s so big that it has to be supported on two tripods and fires ammunition that’s three times the size of standard rifle ammo.

An Isis terrorist has been photographed aiming a 10-foot long sniper rifle out of a flat window in Kobane.

The fearsome weapon fires 23mm calibre bullets, far larger than the standard size.

First off, I’m not sure I agree with the labelling of this weapon as a “sniper rifle”. I’d call it more of an anti-armor gun. In any case it highlights the point that at the end of the day, a “gun” can be a tube that suggests a direction for a round to fly…

This is a mighty big tube, and a pretty big round.  I’d think that aiming it accurately would be an issue.  Any current (or former) cannon cockers want to weigh in?

Thanks to Greg A. for the submission.



Tom is a former Navy Corpsman that spent some time bumbling around the deserts of Iraq with a Marine Recon unit, kicking in tent flaps and harassing sheep. Prior to that he was a paramedic somewhere in DFW, also doing some Executive Protection work between shifts. Now that those exciting days are behind him, he has embraced his inner “Warrior Hippie” and assaults 14er in his sandals and beard, or engages in rucking adventure challenges while consuming craft beer. To fund these adventures, he writes medical software and builds websites and mobile apps. His latest venture is as one of the founders of IronSights.com; a search engine for all things gun related. He hopes that his posts will help you find solid gear that will survive whatever you can throw at it–he is known (in certain circles) for his curse…ahem, ability…to find the breaking point of anything.


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  • Tom

    I doubt its easy to make any adjustment to the point of aim so I guess you just stand and wait for something to come along and then hope it doesn’t explode in your face or that whoever you are firing on doesn’t decide to return fire.

    • That’s what I was thinking. Can you imagine a misfire happening? Misfire in the guys face! Time to reload. Aiming would probably be awful and you would miss a target 10 feet in front of you. Concealment is out of the question. There’s no badass factor to this other than its friggin’ huge and would give you a new hole (if you were lucky enough to hit the target)

      • David Sharpe

        Nothing would happen if if suffered a misfire.

  • Ken

    The room acts like a suppressor, haha. It can’t be fun to fire that with the muzzle inside the room, but I suppose that is the price of concealment.

  • Dave The Great

    Two tripods = non-adjustable point of aim (like Tom just pointed out, beating me to the point as I was typing this).

    No optics, no POI adjustment, and in lieu of information about rifling and barrel pressures, I’m going to just assume it’s not terribly accurate. Still a fearsome weapon, but not likely in the way the name implies. I would hate to be in the vehicle this thing targets, but the odds of hitting someone walking slowly through the impact area while not taking any evasive maneuvers is still pretty nil.

    • Mack

      B/S, you obviously know little of firearms or how they work, if you pay attention to the front tripod it is a swivel arm and can be directional of up to 35 degrees in each direction, it can even move up and down to a degree.

      • Dave The Great

        “you obviously know little of firearms or how they work”

        Hyperbole much? We disagree over how well an item in a single photo that neither of us has seen in-person works, and you extrapolate this to cover all of my firearms knowledge? That’s expecting a bit much from two paragraphs.

        As for the front tripod, I can only see a vertical tilt mechanism, which means it will only go up and down (and even then, only with a second crewman to operate it), which will make lateral adjustments difficult if not impossible. Lateral adjustments, as I assume you well know, are pretty important for targeting people walking back and forth (the specific instance of marksmanship I mentioned in my comment). And even those crew-operated vertical adjustments are a bit dubious, as the attachment point seems to have some welding (of a considerably different quality than the rest of the gun, which could mean an entirely different source and quality) and the tripod appears to have a head that tilts but does not extend (that means it would elevate if it were the only tripod, but as part of a two-tripod system, tilting alone isn’t enough to gain or lose elevation. Geometry 101. It would need to extend or retract to counter the rear tripod, and to get the 35 degrees you mention, it would need to extend straight up at least a foot and a half. Seriously, take paper and cut out those dimensions and try it yourself. You can’t raise the muzzle without one of the tripods getting either shorter or longer. Merely pivoting is impossible).

        And still no optics. That vertical iron sight is more like the early grenade launcher sights than anything else. Kinda looks like a massively scaled-up Kalashnikov sight, which would make a lot of sense as that’s the main aiming device the rebels have access to and familiarity with. But making such a sight bigger actually makes it less accurate, not more.

        I could be wrong there, as I have only the one photo to go on. Unless you saw more photos or ran into this thing in real life, that’s all you have to go on as well. Disagreeing on the abilities of something we don’t actually have any experience with does not mean either of us are ignorant on guns. I have been shooting and collecting and building for thirty years, and I am assuming you have a similar background. I would not call you ignorant of firearms based on such a minor disagreement and scant information, and I hope such respect can be returned.

        • Mack

          No, not an exaggeration but calling you
          ignorant was wrong, uninformed maybe more apt as you will not have seen this type
          of platform before, but I am both a licensed gun smith as well as an ex military
          firearms technician and I have seen this type of platform in person and know
          how it works.

          It moves both up and down and left to right,
          it provides a panning arc of around 25 to 30 degrees on the front tripod arm as
          the front black pivot lever works laterally just like a Vickers tripod did and
          creates a cranking handle type movement on the black cantor lever looking arm, this
          horizontally moving cantor lever allows the front of the gun to swivel by pivoting
          the gun on the rear tripod.

          The elevation is controlled by pulling down on
          the rear of the gun and the front tripods vertical hydraulic tilt mechanism allows
          the gun to move upwards about 20 to 30 degrees, the higher you elevate the less
          lateral movement the gun has, it can be panned and elevated by a single shooter
          but they are normally operated by two parties.

          The
          gun is not accurate at all and is not for snipping people, it is built to stop
          vehicles, you would set it up with a view of an incoming road or path where you
          can target oncoming vehicles, it is particularly of use where the roads or
          pathways are narrow and restricted where the elevation allows for targeting multiple
          vehicles in a row that are unable to achieve an exit strategy due to the confinement
          by buildings or terrain, they are mainly used for tactical ambush and need a
          lot of support to back them up.

  • Madcap_Magician

    This is the UK, though, so for all we know it’s a piece of steel pipe with random crap spot welded onto it that has a 75% chance of suffering a catastrophic failure if it is ever actually fired. Or, in British parlance “An ultra deadly antitank/antiaircraft firing the 23mm calibre round that is three times as big as something that’s three times smaller than it.”

    • FourString

      How about This is the the Daily Mail, which is a rubbish tabloid not reflective of actual British culture beside the lowest denominator anyway. You forget that many British farmers own bolt rifles and semiautomatic shotguns.

      • Madcap_Magician

        You mean the ones who stood in line to turn in their guns?

      • Mack

        British culture, whats that, no such thing. islam in the United Kingdom is the second largest religion with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 giving the Muslim population in the UK in 2011 as 2,786,635 legal residence, it does not even account for the millions of illegal residence, and by now that number has most likely increased by 50%.

  • sianmink

    I swear it looks like a semiauto shotgun welded to a ginormous tube, and it’s probably such a bodged rig that it’s a wonder it doesn’t blow itself to bits after 3 rounds.

    • Madcap_Magician

      Well, it does have the look of a gun you would fire by attaching a long string to the trigger… which you pull while inside a reinforced concrete bunker.

  • hami

    I sure as hell wouldn’t want that pointed anywhere near my direction.

  • That’s an anti-material rifle, hardly a sniper or anti personnel rifle

  • me ohmy

    smells like…..BULLSHHHHH..CHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • me ohmy

    never mind a “sniper rifle” using a rear leaf sight

  • Dr. Daniel Jackson

    Trigun?

    • gunslinger

      i was goint to post the same thing

  • LCON

    Thats a small shoulder fired cannon. more of a area effect weapon then a precision weapon. a Direct fire mortar

  • Andy B

    How big is a 23mm round? I’m assuming the empty casings at his feet are from the weapon. I’ve seen 20mm dummy rounds that look bigger than those. Basing size on the closest casings to his foot.

    • Andy B

      Hmmm, I take that back, 20mm can be about 6 inches COAL. So 23mm could be in the same ballpark.

  • Zachary marrs
  • FourString

    ISIS derka derka tactics

  • The Real Teal’c

    Isis, I raise you 1 Dan Bilzerian and an optical gun site. What chu got now fools?

    • iksnilol

      What kind of rifle is that!?

  • Giolli Joker

    Single shot cannon.

  • phuzz

    Please don’t judge us by the output of the Daily Mail, it’s a terrible newspaper.

    • Mack

      We don’t, but we do judge you by the way you have allowed islam to overrun your country, we are particularly disturbed that you have allowed their control of your country to so badly degenerate that it will soon reach a point when you are going to expect my country to allow you brainless morons to migrate here to alleviate your potential for cerebral separation anxiety to having your brainless heads cut off due to your useless do nothing attitudes, that is how we judge you, as a bunch of do nothing islamo doing Britons.

      • phuzz

        I think you’ve confused the UK with Spain 1000 years ago. As a whole the UK is mainly non-religious these days (CofE doesn’t really count).

        • Mack

          Most definitely not, the UK has become rabidly anti Simitic as well as radicalised by islam, it is one of the eurotrash zones soon to be run by islamists, you are completely delusional if you think it wont, they already have sever consequential influence on your politics and way of life, you even allow sharia law, and they together with your league of corrupt socialists are leading the UK down the highway to hell, by 2025 the UK wont exists as the nation it did before MT, islam will dominate you and you will be looking elsewhere to live and another country to screw up.

          • phuzz

            You’ve never been to the UK have you mate?
            Try travelling a bit, you’ll get a bit more perspective on the world.

          • Mack

            Sorry mate, lived in South Gate and then Manchester, worked for my bosses in Amsterdam as well and finally left the eurotrash zone for greener pastures in NA, and I left due to the islamic radicalization I could see materializing daily around me, it does not take a genius to see where this is headed and the evil coming mother England’s way, with soldiers being murdered in the high street, one would have to be both dumb and blind not to see, and you can fool yourself as much as you want, it wont change the facts, you should be the one traveling, I already have.

  • Karl

    For those wondering how big the casings all over the floor add an about 2″ projectile to the tip and there you have it. Would not want to be the guy left holding the 23mm ball when you got counter battery and a squad of guys ready to suppress your position. My guess is somebody is compensating for some… issues.

  • J.T.

    More likely that it is 23×152 and the gun is made from a ZU-23 barrel.

  • J. Bingham

    Looking at the picture again, I don’t think the front tripod is being used – I think it’s just sitting behind the “sniper rifle” – aka the ISIS BFG 9000 – and the angle of the picture makes it look the barrel is resting on it…

  • mosinman

    notice the lack of western infidel magic on this glorious rifle.
    a true warrior of ISIS has his rounds guided by the might of Allah

    • Madcap_Magician

      Aiming? Insh’allah.

  • dan citizen

    For all those in this thread that seem to be misunderstanding what they’r looking at here….

    – It is not on 2 tripods, it is on a pintle mount bolted to the floor, very solid, the black tripod is in the background.

    – The pintle allows elevation and traverse, it is not fixed to a specific point of aim.

    – Because of it’s mount the shooter will not be experiencing much of the recoil, only that allowed by flex in the mount. (the barrel has it’s own recoil buffer)

    – This is built off of a breech assembly and barrel salvaged from spare parts or a captured weapon, likely it is from a ZU-23, it is not a “pipe gun”

    – The ladder sight is not so crazy, much better than the previous habit of flimsy scope mounts.

    – It’s use determines it’s designation. anti-material, anti personnel, depends who’s unlucky enough to get in it’s way.

  • andrey kireev

    23mm is a light cannon caliber….just saying

  • Guest

    lol

  • DIR911911 .

    looks like a fine little camping rifle

  • Madcap_Magician

    I was referring to the source media, not to the country where the erstwhile firearm is located, but thanks.

  • Madcap_Magician

    Why would I be envious of that?

  • Madcap_Magician

    True, but those ones don’t actually run anything here. Over there they run more or less the whole country

    • Chase Buchanan

      They run California. It’s awful.

  • Yellow Devil

    You still get more mileage than a suicide bomb vest or a VBIED.

  • Madcap_Magician

    I will try to clarify and expand the meaning of my statement in an attempt to help you.

    The post is about an improvised weapon in Syria. It was reported in a British tabloid that was rife with laughable errors about weapons. Could have happened in any media outlet, they’re all clueless about weapons.

    My point was that we should not be surprised to see said state of extreme stupidity about firearms in a British media outlet. The vast majority of British politicians and citizens are vigorously antigun. The presence of a tiny and silent minority of rural farmers who have jumped through the many hoops and expenses to own their rifles and shotguns do not constitute a viable lobby for gun rights. The British public is both hostile to guns and ignorant about them. Not a minority. Not even a plurality. The. Overwhelming. Majority.

    For some reason you seem insistent that the UK is really not that different from the USA because some parts of the US are run by people who support British-type restrictions on gun ownership. This is true, but in no place in the US are restrictions as bad as they are in the UK. For example: Even in Chicago, Washington, D.C., New York, and California, a U.S. Olympic team pistol shooter could still at least practice in his own country. Good luck with that in the UK.

    Maybe you’re the jealous one.

  • Zachary marrs

    The joke went over your head

  • Zachary marrs

    Look up polandball cant into

  • lifetimearearesident

    Wonder if he’s wearing any hearing protection…. If not it will be the last thing he hears.

  • Ed Canupp

    If he pulls the trigger while scotched between the butt-stock and the wall, I bet he never shoots it again, or at least not in the foreseeable future. Bad weapon, poor tactics, why don’t they all grab a knife or sword – make a banzai charge and let us send them on their way to meet Allah. oh, I forgot they are all psychopaths employing ridicoulous means of engagement…….play stupid games win stupid prizes.

  • jcitizen

    Those are some big @ssed empties he has on the floor, so that 23 mm AA round is a substantial one, compared to old 20mm from WW2. Obviously he has fired it more than once. Accuracy may not be needed as I’m sure those use high explosive rounds, and if set to point detonate, would do some pretty good damage if they hit any where within 5 to 15 m from the target. The shrapnel would do the rest.

  • Mack

    You are right, the majority of logical freedom loving Brits have no objection to firearms ownership, but they do vote in politicians that have turned the empire into a servitude nation, and ordinary Brits are not doing anything to save their country from imminent disaster.

  • @brewpnt

    After the Russians Interior Ministry deployed their 23mm “shotguns” for anti-riot work, other uses of rejected 23mm barrels were explored. With the ongoing issues in their southern regions rumors have circulated about “heavy” rifles used to maintain an extended stand off range around hard facilities. The weapon shown seems to lack sights that would make use of the range this device would be capable of, and seems fairly crude.