Review: We Plead The 2nd Holster

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This is an ongoing product review series that the I’m writing about my commemorative 1911 project, the custom grips were covered in an earlier TFB post and the frame and process of completing the 1911 will be in ensuing posts. This one will cover the custom Kydex holster.

It seems that within the gun world, or even the modern commercial world in which we live in today, it used to be that if someone wanted a custom product, they had to go a very long way to a dedicated craftsman such as a specialized gunsmith, or a leather worker and pay a small fortune for  a custom option on a product. With the current development in technology, this process is still available for the high end customer, but some companies are taking custom work to a whole new level and as a prime example, the We Plead The 2nd holster company is a prime example.

We Plead The 2nd isn’t just about making custom made holsters, they are nothing but custom made holsters. It’s hard to order a holster from them and not pick something that will be individual to you specifically. Even the stock holsters they offer have different options of belt loop sizes and holster cuts. To break it down, there are the categories they offer, apart from the already vast array of handgun sizes and weapon lights you pick from.

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You don’t need to go with a full compliment of these Eyelet choices, you can mix them up a bit too. I choose Blood Red, White, and Blue to correspond with the red, white, and blue of the American Flag and had them arranged in a equal amount of eyelets around the holster.

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Colors can be chosen for the inside or the outside of the holster. Because Kydex holsters are made by attaching two pieces of Kydex together with the eyelets, the company can inject the pieces separately with different colors or patterns.

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Most of these loops depend on the eyelet system and can be configured to different positions as per user preference. But others such as the MALICE loops, RCS clips and the Rapid clip cannot be as readily adjusted.

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These options are available on the basic holster order that goes for around 70 dollars. Adding a custom image to the holster makes the order go to about 100 dollars. The types of holsters they make are Out Side the Waistband and pancake, Duty Drop holsters, Inside the Waistband, Trigger Guard, magazine holders both OWB and IWB, as well as numerous other holsters designed for specific tools such as their Bond Arms Snake holster and their Ka-Bar TDI knife sheath. They even make a custom tactical dip can holster which I found truly amusing. Seeing that Kydex is so moldable to the object, it is surprising that there aren’t more knife sheaths.

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The Dip Can Kydex Holster, for when you need to put in a lip during those tactical pauses. Just as customizable as the handgun holsters. Special Operators are encouraged to order multiple versions for quick reloads.

While dealing with the company over the order details, the e-mail replies back from We Plead The 2nd were answered within hours of sending them, an attention to professionalism and detail that is not always present when dealing with companies and individuals these days.

The company also sells a variety of other products, some they make themselves but others they are simply a third party to. These products range from ammunition, and decals to various articles of tactical gear such as gloves and backpacks. They also have a good selection of various weapon parts and magazines.

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This is the photoshop outline that the I created for the personalized image. The company simply asked for a photoshop file to use as they have a program that converts the photoshop file to the laser that imprints the image onto the holster. My MOS, 0311 Rifleman is imprinted at the time along with the Acronym SAMK. The various weapons are imprinted with the appropriate call signs the I had while using those weapons, apart from the M40A5. The text within the country profile of Afghanistan are the years that the I was deployed to the country. Note that the I cut off the province of Badakshan so the image could fit. The various pictures on the bottom are from the two deployments and are outlines. Images of a guard post, a medevac Chinook, CH53, Thor system, Soldiers Cross, and an MRAP are all elements of a deployment.

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As with the previous VZ Grip review, I highly recommend readers to assemble a rough image of what they want, so there is no confusion between customer and manufacturer of what is being asked. The only difference between the prototype and the holster was that the red eyelets were much darker and the bottom of the holster wasn’t completely filled out.

As the holster is apart of a commemorative unit 1911 project, I wanted it to fit in with the backdrop of being apart of the 1st Battalion 9th Marines. So he choose a variety of images and options that fit with it that are explained in the images above. Safety Orange was chosen for the back Kydex portion to really emphasize safety with firearms handling. The company uses blue training handgun models to mold the Kydex to whatever the firearm the customer wants, but attaches appropriate tactical lights to the handguns so they can get that portion in as well. I wanted the holster made with a high enough sweat guard so the holster would be pushing the 1911 safety into the safe position when the pistol was holstered. Because the company uses training handguns with the safety in the fire position, they couldn’t accommodate this. I would have liked this option but alas one can’t have everything and thus had to be satisfied with a mid length sweat guard.

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An interesting note about these Kydex holsters that are made for weapons with lights is that since the light is the widest portion of the handgun inside the holster, the holster’s retention is based on the light and its fit. So you can’t holster the handgun without the light on it, it’ll just jiggle around in the holster and there won’t be any retention. Another antidote is that with Kydex, after a number of years the material will wear down, and it is commonly said that when this happens, just reheat the holster and fit the gun back to it. I don’t know how this reheating will affect the personalized image on the front of the holster.

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A comparison of various belts fitting through the loops that came with my holster. There are a variety of loops that can be ordered for an individual holster such as MALICE clips, soft IWB loops, drop attachments and  G-code clips among others. The belts illustrated are a typical tactical riggers belt on the right, a black one and a half inch dress belt, and a two inch wide brown belt. All these can fit but the riggers belt fills the loops the best while the 2 inch belt is a struggle to get through but once it is through the holster doesn’t move. The dress belt fits but must be on tight if it is to keep the holster and gun steady.

On the topic of protecting the design, I went to a local hardware store and bought some    Rust-oleum sealant spray. After applying several coats of the spray to the front of the holster and letting it dry for 12 hours between coats, an effective protective layer was successfully applied. Although it did somewhat smear some of the letters in center and it left small air bubbles in some parts of the front, the overall effect of protecting the holster was achieved.

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I smoothed out the fluid along the side of the holster to form a seal with the Kydex.

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This is immediately after one of the initial coats of spray. The glistening surface goes away as the spray hardens.

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Although somewhat distorted in different areas, the effect is achieved and that is a layer protecting the main image, the sealant is about 2 mm in thickness over the entire front part of the holster.



Miles V

Former Infantry Marine, and currently studying at Indiana University. I’ve written for Small Arms Review and Small Arms Defense Journal, and have had a teenie tiny photo that appeared in GQ. Specifically, I’m very interested in small arms history, development, and Military/LE usage within the Middle East, and Central Asia.

If you want to reach out, let me know about an error I’ve made, something I can add to the post, or just talk guns and how much Grunts love naps, hit me up at miles@tfb.tv


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  • echelon

    Unfortunate naming convention…

    Free men don’t plead.

    • That’s like saying not guilty in court. They plead the second–everyone is innocent of firearms violations because of the second. I think that’s what they mean.

      • noob

        I plead the fifth.

      • echelon

        If one were to study law, one will find that there’s a lot wrong with our “justice” system.

        Get a Black’s law dictionary. Words are not univocal they’re equivocal and words in law do not typically have the same meaning in the “real world”.

        Many people dismiss this…but if it is meaningless then why bother changing meanings at all?

  • t_reese

    Carrying concealed what the hell does it matter what color a holster is?

  • JumpIf NotZero

    That’s about the point I stopped reading.

    • gunslinger

      yeah. no thanks.

      unless i can get one for my e-cig/vap holder

      /end.sarcasm

  • LongBeach

    A kydex holster for wintergreen grazzle sticks? Maaannnn…. If I had seen one of those a year ago I would’ve been all OVER that! sometimes I miss dipping. Sometimes.

  • noob

    in america dip presents a greater mortal danger to yourself than any gun.

  • noob

    I wonder if a date would judge you when you undressed and she saw you had a boring plain black holster while her concealed carry kydex was in Muddy Girl (TM). could it be the gun nut equivalent of the “plain y fronts moment”?