Pedersen Rifle Available For Sale At RIA

It’s not every day you see a gun as rare and historically significant as this for sale! Rock Island Auction is selling a British Pedersen rifle, an early American selfloader design and direct competitor to the early Garand. What’s more, Ian of Forgotten Weapons has been given the envious chance to take a look at the gun and tell us a little more about it:

I have one minor nit to pick with Ian’s history – the Garand at the point of its trials against the Pedersen rifle still retained the gas trap muzzle device of the early design. Early production Garands would retain this method of operation, until they were retrofitted for a more modern gas port shortly before World War II.

If I had enough spare change to buy a brand new entry-level sedan, you bet I’d pick this one up for myself!

Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He is also the author of the original web serial Heartblood, which is being updated and edited regularly. He can be reached via email at


  • Don Ward

    We have had articles here about company(s) making reproduction M1 Carbines and Colt 1911s. It’s a pity in a way that it’s not economically feasible to produce reproduction versions of these early autoloaders. Maybe twinged a bit here and there. But that’s one attractive rifle.

    • I’d love to have a reproduction Luger while they’re at it. Under…. $600 or so.

      • Cymond

        C-96 Mauser, It would have to be produced in a machine shop, so it would be expensive. Even if it does cost as much as an original, some people will buy them. I’d feel nervous and guilty about putting very many rounds through an original.

    • Ken

      There are other repro rifles like the StG44, FG42, and BAR. While not cheap, they’re still way cheaper than the originals, which granted are expensive partly because they are full auto.

      There are also the M14 clones. The only way SAI gets them so cheap (around $1500) is use of lots of cast and MIM parts. Many manufacturers do use forged receivers and parts like LRB, 7.62mm Firearms, Fulton Armory, and James Rivery Armory. Off the top of my head, I do know that the JRA one is $2200 MSRP.

      Repro M1 Carbines are largely made from castings too. James River Armory makes them from forgings, and they cost $1200. You can get decent examples of shooter grade original M1 Carbines for less than that and closer to the cost of a Auto Ordnance cast repro or something.

      I think the difficulty is not in making them, but in selling them. There simply is not such a demand for something like a Pedersen rifle. Only a few top collectors would even want one, and even then they might not want a repro. Even fewer shooters would want one. If a few hundred were to be made, like the FG42 or BAR repros, they should only costs a few thousand dollars, but I don’t think that they would be able to sell a few hundred repros in the way that they can sell semi auto versions of full autos.

  • Right, the muzzle piece was a cap acting as a de-facto gas block and port, as they didn’t want to be drilling holes in the barrel.

  • Giolli Joker

    Extremely fascinating gun and mechanism.
    The machined surfaces of that “lock” have a very modern feel.
    Wouldn’t a fluted chamber help the extraction issue without the need for waxing/lubrication?