Gregor sent us this nifty photo of his new PGM 338 chambered in (you guessed it) .338 Lapua Magnum. He has fitted it out with a S&B 5-20 Ultra Short scope, Era-Tac QD mount and a Harris Bipod. It is one handsome rifle in my opinion. The PGM 338 is made by PGM Précision in France and is in service in Israel, Singapore and Slovenia.

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  • John

    Sphur mount and B&T bipod would of been better on it.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Why?

      If the scope mount holds and returns to zero, what do you think a spur would get you? Except several hundred dollars lighter of course.

      The best shooters in the world still use Harris. What is it a B&T gets you? You can load them backwards, but they wobble unloaded (and you can’t always load) and are far far slower to deploy or retract.

      My advice… Get off the hype train at snipershide. I owned a spur mount and could see no difference except the integrated level to some seekins rings. Bought into some Atlas bipod, selling in favor of Harris type now.

      • Jeff Smith
      • n0truscotsman

        “Get off the hype train at snipershide”

        LOL, I stay out of that morass for the same damn reason I stay off arfcom.

        • Zachary marrs

          You can at least get good info off arfcom, snipershide has died since it was sold

          • Nicks87

            You gotta be careful with all those message boards. You could spend all day sifting through the BS.

          • n0truscotsman

            Not only BS, but flame wars, lawsuits, and other shenanigans.

      • Michael R. Zupcak

        Maybe he’s not on the “hype train”. Maybe he’s on the “I-make-more-money-than-you” train and can afford more expensive equipment. Say whatever makes you feel better, though.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          OK, I personally owned everything he was talking about but. I’m not so limited in cash that I feel I must blindly defend expensive purchases, have no buyers remorse, and can evaluate these things objectively.

          But… sure, maybe you’re right.

        • Nicks87

          It’s most definately a hype train. Just because it’s the most expensive doesnt necessarily mean it’s the best/only option.

  • Giolli Joker

    It’s pretty… but my eye socket hurts just looking at that scope.
    Maybe it’s recoil is really well managed by that artillery style brake.

    • Dan

      Or maybe the stock isn’t adjusted the way the owner normally has it.

      • Giolli Joker

        Could be.
        Or, since he has a QD mount, he staged a picture after buying this beauty and he will do the proper adjustments later at the range.

        • Gregor

          Sorry to disappoint you, it is not staged. Thats exactly how I shoot it. The stock is longer than it seems on the pictures.

          At first the scope was mounted one slot more to the front, but it didnt feel comfortable enough. The current position works best for me and there is still enough space between my eye and the scope, before, during and after firing 🙂

          • Giolli Joker

            No disappointment, better this way. 🙂
            How’s the recoil management?
            The gun looks quite hefty (in a positive way) and the muzzle brake seems to put function above form…

          • Gregor

            The recoil is way more comfortable than the one of my ex AI AWM .338 (with muzzle breake). Both rifles have about the same weight. The PGM is still pushing, but the recoil impulse feels less “snappy” (lacking a better word here) than the AWM.

            The PGMs recoil is not as comfy as a 20 inch .308 with a medium weight stock, but better than my 16 inch Steyr SSG69 PIV, which kicks harder.

          • Giolli Joker

            Are you purposely trying to make me envious?
            You can mark a success! 🙂
            Thanks for the info!

          • j

            What kinda paint job/ coating is on it?

  • Mr.T

    Scope is just mounted to far back.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Amazing that you can determine cheek weld and eyebox of that scope from a picture!!!

    • Nicks87

      What exactly makes you think it’s too far back? Some people would say further back is better.

      • Lestor

        You sir, have never been scope cut by a .338, have you? You want that d*mn thing as far away as possible!

  • the_duck

    Wow, such hateraid flowing through the comments here.

    That is one gorgeous and that color is beautiful. Something about that scope too…its nice.

    • Nicks87

      Yeah I’m not sure how you can criticize someone’s set up without knowing what they look like or watching them shoot. The whole point of a weapon system like this is adjustability, making the rifle fit the shooter based on his/his personal preference.

      • Nicks87

        “his/her”

    • Giolli Joker

      “Something about that scope too…its nice”
      Well, Schmidt und Bender… http://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/police-and-military-forces/5-20×50-pm-ii-ultra-short.html
      It’s a top quality scope…

  • Soless

    The rings look like they’re touching the bell and the knob. It’s not my preference to have the rings touch anything but the tube. A

  • Michael R. Zupcak

    Not even piston-driven. What a piece of crap.

    • JSmath

      I take it you’re trying to be the edgy, sarcastic guy?

      • Michael R. Zupcak

        Who? Me? No that just looked like a DI rifle. Sorry if I offended anyone.

  • Aaron E

    A very nice rifle in deed! This beauty has just about everything a sniper good want – fully adjustable butt stock that is collapsible as a bonus, ergonomic pistol grip (if that’s your thing), magazine fed, enlarged bolt handle, free-floating fluted barrel, Harris bi-pod (though I prefer shooting from a bag), and a long rail for the addition of night vision or IR. The optic is preference, but this one is decent.

    Two negatives I see – looks very heavy making portability a bitch, and along that line, it doesn’t seem to be set up for a decent sling. Appears to be more of a bench shooter than a working rifle.

  • Pete in Alaska

    WOW! Very nice Gregor! May have to give up my TRG42 and get this. No, I’ll keep the TRG And get this for Christmas maybe. I’d get NightForce optics and mounts for it but other than that it’s a very nice setup. My other questions were answered in the other comments with the exception of its weight. It looks a bit heavier than the TRG.
    Do you hand load for the .338L? What’s been the accucery on the cold bore shots? I’d be interested in hearing your impressions on its performance.
    Very nice platform.

  • skt

    would it be possible to post the hi res of the images posted here or a link to them as well? hard to see the sweet details at this size

  • William M Durham

    Love it, now where do I go to get one for me.

  • snmp

    Pic of Mr. Gille PAYEN the creator/gunsmith of the PGM Ultima Ratio in French Savoy region:

    (Pics credit : Bibliothèque municipale de Lyon / creatiive common licence )

  • Dual Sport

    I have to agree on those basic colors. I love a rifle in nice, unassuming w
    Earth tones.