Russian Soldier Training

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This video was posted on Facebook. It seems some soldiers are using GoPros mounted to their weapons during a training drill. There seems to be quite a few safety violations with some flagging of their fellow soldiers.

 



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  • Canadian Vet

    Through my experience, I’ve come to realize that in military operations, it’s not of matter of IF you’ll get flagged but WHEN you get flagged by someone else you’re with. And that is especially true when operating in more cramped spaces. When I took my Primary Leadership Qualification course, according to the staff ours was the first in 6 or 8 serials that someone didn’t take an unintentional Simmunition in the back during the urban ops portion. Mind you, the PLQ (Land) at the time was for all Army personnel except infantry (which have their own version of the PLQ) and all “purple” trades, which means a lot of people, me included, whose primary occupation is NOT a combat trade.

    Mind you, it doesn’t mean I enjoy getting flagged, no one does. It’s just the nature of the beast. All I can hope for is that the guy behind me doesn’t have an overly itchy trigger finger, knows to wait for a clear shot or doesn’t trip with his booger-picker on the bag switch.

    Basically, in combat, even in training, people will wind up having friendly weapons pointed at them at some point and that is where trigger discipline comes in. However, when in garrison and not playing silly bugger, there is absolutely no reason to allow your muzzle to come across someone else, the only exception being when weapons are taken apart for cleaning.

    As for the use of cameras, I think it’s a great idea for AAR purposes after a training run. Using a soldier’s view as well as a bird’s eye view could easily paint a very complete picture to dissect and analyze their performance and iron out the kinks in the next run.

    And for investigation purposes to see if the Simmunition he guy punched into his buddy’s back was an honest miss, the result of negligence or just being a jerk.

    • Tyler Runo

      Respect, buddy.

      Oh man that would drive me nuts! I keep thinking also about if someone was in a more serious firefight with a hot gun and there was a cook off. Odds are against it, but rounds have that nasty habit of somehow finding their way to friendlies sometimes.

      Thanks for your service up north.

      • Francis Marion

        Sure, it happens-hardly, but that Ruble Head has zero regard for muzzle awareness.

      • Canadian Vet

        It takes a lot of firing for rounds to start cooking off in weapons, especially something with as low a rate of fire as the Kalashnikov family.

        In fact, the only time I’ve seen a weapon fire after the trigger was released was a C9 (FN Minimi/M-249) with a trigger mechanism that failed due to age and heavy usage and became a runaway gun since it fires from the open bolt.

  • ColaBox

    This is fake. Everyone knows the regular Russian soldiers train by watching the Spetz Nas do backflip axe throws and absorbing their badassery, while getting hammered on Kalashnikov vodka.

    • Yellow Devil

      I’ve got your training covered for today.

      • MrSatyre

        Hey, now! You never know when your APV will flip upside down and you’ll have to attack the enemy with whatever’s near at hand when you get dumped out!

  • MrSatyre

    I’ve always been amazed and terrified by the overt lack of concern Russian military personnel demonstrate in regards to even the most obvious safety protocols. It’s as if, although to a lesser degree, they seem to share the same lack of respect for life that terrorist armies have. The Russians come up with all these amazing tools for inflicting maximum ouchies on their enemies, but are so incredibly casual and “who gives a shit” with them.

    • Canadian Vet

      It’s a matter of doctrine and institutional culture. Until recently, the Russian military as a whole was completely lacking in professional soldiers and save for their officer corps and a very small senior NCO corps, they were largely conscripts and these were mostly viewed as expendable.

      Combine this with the Communist mindset, in which all men serve the Party and individuals are insignificant in the greater scheme of things and you will have a military that will put personnel safety, especially for enlisted men with no highly-placed connections, on a very distant back burner.

      However, I’m no expert on the Russian army but for all we know, now they make up for their lack of barrel control with extreme trigger discipline. In the Canadian Armed Forces, a negligent discharge with one’s personal weapon can cost you up to $1200. For all we know, the Russian penalties for such a thing could be far stiffer.

    • Grindstone50k

      “Force protection” doesn’t exist in the Russian language.

  • That was pretty scary! It does happen, but at literally every transition he flaged at least one of his unit. That’s too often regardless of live fire or not. The second thing I have to point out is the ambient noise with his gopro. I’ve dealt with the same thing, but there are ways to keep it to a minimum. Not trying to be critical, just a little info for everyone. You can get decent sound without spending more money on an external mic for your camera.

    P.S.
    Colabox, if watching someone throw an axe doesn’t improve your awesomeness… I don’t know what will.

    Nick-
    Wolfarmory.blogspot.com

  • RNF

    Gentlemen, you have to understand one thing – Russia is not a country, Russia is a state of mind.
    After realizing that one, simple truth, everything about vids like that becomes so clear…

  • Please, Muzzle all your buddies more… sheesh.

  • Bill

    As noted, the Russians have afar different take on soldier/police safety than the West, their attitude being we can always get more. On the other hand, that is far from the worst weapons handling I’ve seen. As Canadian Vet pointed out, it’s not if but when. It’s nearly impossible in those kinds of highly dynamic situations to maintain 100% muzzle discipline, considering that often times people are moving themselves in front of muzzles. Muzzle discipline works both ways: don’t move in front of me while I’m covering my area of responsibility and expect not to get muzzled up, particularly if you haven’t indicated to me what you are doing.

    Those rapid flaggings are far different than someone just standing around nonchalantly letting their muzzle wander.

    • UltramanSuperdude .

      Well they did sustain over 20 million casualties in WWII…and they were the winners….that should say something about their military doctrine.