Desert Tech MDR Pricing

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Euro Optic’s website has released pricing on the Desert Tech MDR rifle. It looks like conversion kits in .223 and .308 may be available on release, priced at $657.03 and $950.00, respectively.

Phil Note: The prices listed are for the conversion kits as Nathan listed. The MDR rifle itself will retail for $2450 in .308 and $2150 for the .223. These prices are subject to change prior to release.

Thanks to Sadler for the tip.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Ed

    Forget it buy a good AR Bullpups suck ergonomically.

    • G0rdon_Fr33man

      Nope. This is a much more awesome gun that a boring AR. It will truly give the Tavor a punch in the cheek.

      • Zachary marrs

        Unless this is magic, and other than a almost $1000 .308 kit, the tavor does the same thing $400 cheaper

        • G0rdon_Fr33man

          But the Tavor does not allow for 308/223/300blk/7,62×39 caliber changes. And I guarantee the trigger on this thing will be leagues beyond a stock Tavor. Oh, and the front sights are adjustable, and keeps it zero when changing between calibers. So no, the Tavor does not do the same thing 400 dollars cheaper. I do agree the price of the 308-kit is pretty stiff though.

          • EvanZ

            Once again, you do not know, and the tavor already has a decently sized (and growing) aftermarket. We get it, you are excited and like the gun, as do many of us. The price is fair for what it is, but other than what was said you have no first hand experience.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            I am basing my comments on what Desert Tech are saying themselves. If it end up as vapourware or not keeping their promise in any way, I´ll be the firs here to critisize them.

          • No it doesn’t but it does convert to 9mm which is good for practice.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            Yup. And I would no be surprised if we see a 9mm kit for this as well.

          • Spidouz

            I would also expect some .22LR kit… that would be nice!

          • Dan

            “It keeps zero when changing between calibers” Uh yea, good luck with that.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            It is not witchcraft. You adjust the front sight, instead of the rear sight, on each caliber. Their SRS returns to zero after changing barrels, but in that case, you have to reset you scope. The MDR has built in front sight in their caliber kits.

          • Dan

            Ok I smell what you’re stepping in now, I was under the impression that you were trying to say your zero would stay the same when switching from 5.56 to 7.62 instead you are saying 5.56 will return to zero when you switch back to 5.56

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            That is correct. Sorry for any misunderstandings. Each caliber kit will keep it´s zero 🙂

          • Hank Seiter

            Ah, this makes sense. However, it’s been my experience, when changing barrels in a Bren, Stoner or the Bushmaster ACR, there is some very measurable shifting even when returning to the original barrel. Again, it may measure in mere inches but downrange even that can become a significant issue.

          • Chuck

            From the pictures on the Desert Tech website, it looks like the back section of rail (the black section) is a fixed part of the chassis. Mechanically, I don’t see a reason why the mechanical zero would be affected. Of course, you will have to adjust your vertical for ammunition changes, but that will require putting in the zero you determined the first time, not a repeat of your shoot-to-zero range trip.

          • Hank Seiter

            Agreed. In best case scenario we’re probably talking of a reassembly shift of several inches at 100 meters which is NOT “keeping zero”. But it is just a couple of inches and not a foot. However, several inches can mean a big fat miss at 300 meters and beyond. But still it’s not that bad and probably could be touched up at the range with a very few shots … not a luxury out-in-the-field, however.

  • Wow, that is awesome! A semi-automatic 5.56/.223 priced competitively with the AR15 is a rare bird. I will definitely try to pick one of these up!

    • Zachary marrs

      Lol, $2157 is not competitive

      • G0rdon_Fr33man

        Yes it it. At least if the SRS-A1 is representative of the quality and presicion.

        • Zachary marrs

          He was comparing it to a 500 dollar ar15.

          $500 ar’s are not made to compete with a 2k wünder gun

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            Indeed. That being said, you do get a lot of AR for 2200 USD.

          • big daddy

            A lot of AR, mags, ammo and an optic.

          • wetcorps

            The thing is, being bullpup tends to boost the price of a rifle quite significantly by itself, regardless of quality.

      • My bad, read it quickly and wrongly over coffee.

    • Joshua

      It’s the price of 2 colt 6920s and 500 rounds of ammo.

      • G0rdon_Fr33man

        But can you change the caliber from 308 win to .223?

        IMO, this is the most intriguing US-made rifle in a long time…

        Also, you can get 4 Honda Civics for the price of a Nissan GTR. Just saying…

        • Joshua

          Sure for another $950.

          The car annalogy doesnt compare, a bullpup firing 5.56 doesnt offer anything over other rifles firing 5.56, but the engine in a GTR is far superior to a Civics.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            Going from 223 to 308 or vice versa in an AR is nothing I´ve ever seen before… Add to that 300blk and 7,62×39 which will also be offered for the MDR…

            The MDR will have the best trigger of any production bullpup semi out there. I guarantee it. They have gained a lot of experience with bullpup triggers from the SRS-A1.

            The total length and balance if what bullpups does best. Better than any AR.

          • EvanZ

            You have not even felt the pre production trigger, so how in the world can you make such claims. The gun looks great, don’t get me wrong, but we still don’t know what is in store. But in my world, I can find a nice LR-308 and AR-15 for less than the price of the MDR (and I did). Apples to oranges, I know, but its simpler than a conversion kit.

            That said, I would like to see the MDR 5.56 priced competitively with the tavor.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            My comment above: Not a claim. A statement from Desert Tech. Fully adjustable trigger.

          • Dan

            You believe everything on the internet? I have a chicken that lays solid gold eggs wanna buy it for an incredibly ridiculous price?

          • Joshua

            Lots of claims for a gun you have not used.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            Not a claim. A statement from Desert Tech. Fully adjustable trigger.

          • Cymond

            Then you should look at the Colt SP901. It was designed on a 308 frame, but can take 223 AR-15 uppers with a magwell adapter.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            and those cost… ? 😉

          • Joshua

            $1,700 for the 901. And whatever the cost of whatever dozen uppers you buy between .22 and .308…..or even a .458 SOCOM upper.

          • Cymond

            “Going from 223 to 308 or vice versa in an AR is nothing I´ve ever seen before… ”
            I never said it was cheap.
            I was just pointing out that it has been done before, and with a fair bit of publicity.

          • Sadler

            I can’t imagine the MDR trigger is going to be that much better than the Elftmann trigger than K&M Arms is running in the M17S.

            Now I’m torn between the MDR and the M17S. What it’s going to come down to is how well the ejection system works on the MDR.

          • Dan

            Pretty sure colt makes an AR you can change from 5.56 to .308

        • Yes you can.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Go back and process that. He’s talking about changing the calibers on the 6920 to 308.

          • Joshua

            Actually he just said in an AR, and we have the MGI and Colt 901 which can easily swap between .308 and 5.56.

            Also the Colt 901 is actually cheaper for the .308 and a 5.56 upper than this system is by about $600-$700.

    • I think you have to buy the chassis and kit separately.

  • Zachary marrs

    A 5.56 will cost you $2157.03

    What sloppy writing, you only quoted the caliber kit

    • The structure of the sentence makes it very clear I am talking about the kits, only.

      • Zachary marrs

        You should have also said, “on top of the $1500 chassis”

        • I assumed the reader would follow the link before commenting.

          • floppyscience

            Why not just mention that in the article though? It’s a little strange to only mention the “conversion” cost and not the chassis or total cost.

          • JR

            Agreed.

          • Zachary marrs

            Some people didn’t, including alex

          • That was my bad. Clicked, saw numbers, commented.

          • Zachary marrs

            Dont feel too bad, i got excited for a second there too.

            Then i clicked the link. :E

      • JumpIf NotZero

        Agreed, this is far more an issue of sloppy reading.

        • Zachary marrs

          Yeah, i should totally know this about a product that i know nothing about

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Well, I suppose it hasn’t stopped you in all of the other articles.

          • Zachary marrs

            Please tell me about any combat/self defense scenarios you have been in outside of a training course?

          • JumpIf NotZero

            I don’t know if you just don’t understand why, or you think you’ll bait me into some “winnable internet argument” (lol) but that’s not something I would discuss online. Yes, I have experience with a firearm in self-defense.

            Now please go outside, you’re dragging this site down… Nevermind, this is the last comment I’ll reply to you. Stupid me for feeding the troll :

          • Zachary marrs

            Please elaborate, this was never an argument, i just wanted to know if you had ever used these tactics in real life.

            Please by all means, submit a story, we’d all love to hear it.

          • Phillip Cooper

            What the heck does that have to do with writing?

          • Zachary marrs

            ??? All i wanted to know was if he had ecer used all the techniques he is constantly going on about.

      • JR

        The headline reads “Desert Tech MDR Pricing” when it should read “Desert Tech MDR Caliber Conversion Kit Pricing” or similar.

      • BattleshipGrey

        Why only stop there though? Sure we can follow the link, but that doesn’t really help anyone that’s new to guns or new to this design. The link only takes you to the place to order them, not to the manufacturer’s website.

        I’m not saying you have to go into great detail about every aspect of the rifle like the gun rags do, but perhaps give a little bit more info about the overall system as though the reader doesn’t know anything about it.

    • USMC03Vet

      Lol I got so exited then I read the comments. TFB always with my emotions.

  • Joshua

    Way to get my hopes up…….Chassis, $1,500….conversion kit, $657…….thats $2,157.

    • Yup, it’s not cheap.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      For two calibers. Remind me which other bullpup you can convert from 556 to 308 for $2157?

      Oh, right.

      • G0rdon_Fr33man

        The price he is quoting is for 5,56 only. For both calibers it is 3150 USD. Still, a price I would be willing to pay.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          OK… And what does a non-DTA 308 bullpup AND a 556 cost if you wanted to buy one of each?

          The AUG is over $2k and CAN NOT change calibers, so AUG vs this, I see this as the “better” deal (ignoring all other specs and reasons). The Tavor can be found sub 2k, but also can’t convert to 308.

          I see arguing as if somethings else in the market even existed to compare this to.

          You want these features, it’s a competitive price. You don’t? Find something cheaper. All I’m seeing is a bunch of cheapskates kicking back because something they found shiny is outside of their reach – somehow this means it’s “unfair”.

          Mind boggling.

          • I just listed the cost of each.

          • G0rdon_Fr33man

            You sure you are replying to my comment? We are pretty much 100% in agreement here. For me personally, I´m in Europe, and I cannot own as many rifles as I want to. Which is why “system” weapons are so popular here as a barrel does not count as a rifle.

            All I’m seeing is a bunch of cheapskates kicking back because something
            they found shiny is outside of their reach – somehow this means it’s
            “unfair”.

            — Spot on!

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Yea, sorry, I meant the general ‘you’ not ‘you’ actual. We’re in agreement.

          • Spidouz

            I agree… It makes a lot of sense in some part of the world where the number of firearms could be limited. There’s plenty of similar systems (Sig P320, MGI Hydra, etc…) that already caught the attention of shooters.

            The DT MDR is no exception, mainly after the good reputation they got from the SRS rifles. I’m very excited about it and I really hope they will push the concept and even propose some 9mm and .22LR conversion kit too, on top of the current .300BLK, 6.5 Grendel and obviously .223 and .308 🙂

            The DT MDR is really one of the rifle I’m really waiting for. I really they will take care of the European market to have some dealers out there… I’m convinced there’s a potential there, even if the rifle is a little bit more expensive than, let’s say an AUG or Tavor. The only fact to propose multiple calibers will bring a serious advantage other guns don’t have.

            This not as much important in the US as in Europe, because Americans can easily buy several guns without limitations, registration, etc…. And in some cases, it could be less expensive to buy 2 full complete guns than 1 modular with 2 conversions…

            My 2 cents!

          • $4600 for both complete— as the price stands now.

          • iksnilol

            Could you get an AUG or Tavor + Kel-Tec RFB for that money?

            Personally I like system weapons due to living in a country that demands I register my guns.

          • A Tavor and Kel-Tec no but most Tavors are at $1700 if you look around.

          • iksnilol

            From searching online I found out that the price is about 2k USD for the RFB, that is presuming somebody isn’t trying to profit of you and that you can find one.

          • Zachary marrs

            For a bullpup semi auto .308, its one of the few options, ive seen one RFB (?) That is going for $2100, so this sounds like an attractive option.

          • deejai

            Steyr Augs and Tavors are 1700 all day long

          • Hank Seiter

            Agreed. Probably the most salient observation of the comment dynamic which often happens here.

            The Desert Tech MDR is well within my own budget, but the one hesitation I initially had was personal, I already own a Tavor which is very similar. However, when one considers the convertibility of said bullpup from 5.56 to .762 using the same chassis (a redundancy, I know), it suddenly became desirable. Gotta have one.

            That being said, I already own a plethora of 7.62 platforms from the more traditional M1A to the Rock River LAR-8 with cryo-barrel topped with a Millett that is good to at least a 1000 meter MOA. And an ACR, Tavor, ARX-100 and several ARs that would effectively bridge the gap from CQB to 500 meters (ok, 300). A load out of a MBR and a slung light-weight 5.56 platform with requisite ammo would be a nut-buster, but really only about four pounds more than the 5.56 MDR with a 7.62 conversion kit plus ammo for each. Personally, I would prefer two independent arms (in case one breaks) and just deal with the extra five pounds.

            I know it would be SOP to convert the weapon and leave the extra upper/barrel kit back in fort before pulling any kind of duty or mission, but then you’re still back to square one. One gun, one mission.

  • LT

    I am wondering what you get for $1500. Is it just a chassis, with no function unless you buy the “conversion kit”? I guess “conversion kit” means converting from an empty stock to a functioning firearm?

    • I assume it’s just the chassis, though I’m not sure.

      • G0rdon_Fr33man

        It is. Just like on the SRS-A1. You buy the chassis, and the caliber of your choice.

    • You change out the chassis—–

  • santi

    Yikes, the way things are going, ammo as well as the rifles keep going up in price. Innovation is expensive. At the end of the day it’s simple machinery – brilliant design but still it’s not made of more expensive materials or has some revolutionary integral design. I say this while I am willing to dish out that 2 grand for one to call my own. I figure in time there will be an equilibrium in pricing as with all things on the market.

  • floppyscience

    What happened to trying to keep it priced competitively?

    Oh well, at least they didn’t pull an ACR and double the estimated price.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Why is it people don’t get that if the AR-15 was released today it would be $2000.

      “Inexpensive” nice things only happen because large volume can be leveraged. I think $2100 retail for a new bullpup that can convert from 556 to 308 is priced EXCEPTIONALLY competitively.

      AUGs and Tavors are almost right there themselves. I’m not seeing the where the outrage is coming from.

      • floppyscience

        It’s not $1500 though, it’s $2157 for a .223, and $2450 for a .308.

        $1500 is the empty chassis and fire control. Then you have to buy a “conversion kit” to fire whatever caliber you want.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          I know. That’s very competitive. What is the price on the Tavor? The price on the Aug A3? Right.

          • floppyscience

            $1800.

            Like I said above, if that’s MSRP, that’s great, as street price should be in the $1800 zone with the Tavor, AUG and FS2000. If that’s street price then damn.

        • Rusty Shackleford

          Is the chassis polymer or aluminum?

      • G0rdon_Fr33man

        Yeah, the AR-platform has had 50 years of time to mature. What some in these comments are saying is basically that all new designs are a waste of time as we have already reached perfection. I object to that notion (I admit it, I love bulpups).

  • TangledThorns

    I’d prefer to see official news. I never heard of this site.

  • Ian Thorne

    $2200 and seemingly I have to assemble it myself?

  • JumpIf NotZero

    I’m loving all the comments from people who have clearly never made, marketed, and retailed anything.

    What happened to this site!? People are either anti-training, exceptionally cheap, or just want to shit on something just to do it.

    • G0rdon_Fr33man

      Indeed. Cheap, and snobbish at the same time. I live seing new designs and solutions.

    • USMC03Vet

      id rather be exceptionally cheap than exceptionally retarded to pay over $2k+ for that. the mega baller firearm buyers online spending hundreds every month seem to be everywhere. I need to apply for firearm welfare sooner or later.

    • st4

      Unfortunately the answer to, “what happened to this site,” is, “nothing.” It’s been like this as far as I can remember. :/

      • JumpIf NotZero

        I’ll give you that it was never m4carbine technical discussion or lightfighter, but lately something seems ‘more’ off.

        Like a LOT of teens who may like the idea of guns, but don’t actually own any.

        • I don’t know what it would be nothings been changed.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Honestly, and I like you guys… But you’re far too allowing of vitrolic comments imo. It drives technical and experience people away. Don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly not nice to some people, but there are members here who I know aren’t old enough to own guns, don’t live in a country that allows ownership, and other that often clearly lie about things they claim to have experience with.

            1/2 the comments in this thread are “bah, too expensive! I want it for cheapz. I deserve it!”, that’s not exactly going to bring in the people who used KAC overseas and shell out and buy them now that they are back. For example.

            Or maybe it’s because the site has gotten more popular and the riff raff just comes in with the tide? I don’t know.

          • You hit the nail on the head with the last observation. The less than desirable element just comes with the tide.
            I agree with you on knowing some comments are made by young readers while some just act 12. I don’t care for a number of comments I’ve read but we try to be as hands off as possible.
            Don’t get me wrong if somebody gets too far out of line and brings in race, gender etc. I ban them immediately per TFB rules.
            I always prefer to see people treat each other the way they would want to be treated. If they don’t agree it’s just as easy to be civil as being a jerk. We both know the fact is there are always going to be people we would prefer go elsewhere. It’s just a fact of life on the Internet.

  • Guys and gals I wanted to clarify things since we have comments all over the place on cost. I added the 100% correct from the company prices as they stand now. They did say it is subject to change. I talked with the company directly so that should satisfy everyone on the cost.

    • floppyscience

      So is this MSRP or what Euro Optic will be selling the rifle for?

  • TheSmellofNapalm

    Unlike all the whining nitpicky losers on here I’m excited for this to hit the shelves and think the price is more than fair.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Agreed. It’s like this site started advertising to teens :

  • big daddy

    That’s a lot of money to me for a rifle like that. They are very nice looking and functional looking rifles for sure, but…….I know it’s a bullpup and all that but when I see a rifle that’s basically a military rifle and not a rifle designed for precision, I break it down like this. 2 nice AKs, 16 magazines & 2K rounds of ammo for the same or less price or 1 really good AR in 5.56mm, 10 mags and 1K rounds of M193 ammo. If you get a good deal maybe a good optic too. You can get a M1A1 with a match barrel for less also with plenty of ammo. I’m not cheap by any means but I am frugal. For 2+ grand you can get a good AR & a S&W M&P 9, mags and ammo. Just saying……all proven well designed guns.

  • SM

    Is that MSRP? I bet street price will be ~$300 cheaper. Also, the price should drop once the initial demand settles down.

    I still want to see one of these go through some rough use.

  • toms

    To those of you whining about the price…. Keltech is that way————-> Good Luck, you’ll need it!

    • Joshua

      Colt 901 is <———way and can be had for $1,700 for the .308 rifle and another $400 for a 5.56 upper.

      I could get the 901 with the conversion block and a 5.56 upper for cheaper than the .308 MDR, and the cost of that 5.56 conversion for the MDR would buy a lot of mags and ammo.

      The only thing the MDR has on the 901 is the bullpup configuration.

      • toms

        Bullpup, Hence the comparison to the Keltech. The 901 is just another AR10. Yes I have shot one and it was nice but overly heavy and not all that accurate for being 2000 dollars (MSRP was like 2,350.00), which is the best price I have ever seen one for. Also, 1.5 MOA with match ammo is not anything special now days, just plain average. The 901 is not really that modular either as it requires a whole new upper, and in 5.56 it still weighs a ton. The 901’s trigger sucks so factor in a 250.00 dollar replacement if you plan on shooting it long range. I am betting that the MDR is going to be an impressive rifle therefore justifying its high price tag. The accuracy of the MDR will almost certainly be better than the colt, the trigger too which is sad considering the MDR is a bullpup.

  • Cal S.

    Because there’s nothing you can’t build for $600 that doesn’t look so much better as a bullpup that you have to spend $2k more for…

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Yea, I’ve always thought that with anything the goal should be to spend as little money as possible. Get by with the bare minimum for equipment.

      All those Noveske, KAC, LMT, AI, Sako, Surefire, etc products are all so dumb, you can do “like the same thing” for way cheaper :

      /s

      • Cal S.

        That’s not my attitude toward this at all, buddy. And thanks for speaking before thinking.

        This rifle platform looks awesome, and I think it’s got a number of huge advantages over the Tavor. I like how it features AR-type controls like the location of the mag release, etc. I’m not snobbish, and I have a healthy appetite for innovation.

        I’m also not immune from wanting nice things as a human being. So forgive me, in my ‘bitterness’, for expressing disappointment that the current MSRP is just a little over my threshold when it’s something I would still like to have. A mid-quality (read: not competition-grade) AR that I can build for $600-$800 and easily comparable (in fact, often higher-quality) to full-assembled examples at twice the price is more in my threshold. Try not to be too hasty to judge or throw your sarcasm about. After all, we are told to “Use the best equipment you can afford”, right? If you can afford this platform as a primary or ancillary rifle that fits your POU, then you are very fortunate indeed.

  • terminalbrd

    I’m looking at Desert Tech’s website and the two calibers are .308 and .223 Remington. Does that mean that Desert Tech is foolishly chambering these guns in .223 Rem instead of 5.56mm NATO; or has Desert Tech simply used what has more and more become the “generic” term for both chamberings?

  • RickH

    I have a hard time getting interested in something that is a prototype that appears that no one has fired or even field stripped. Instead of releasing prices, how about detailed pics & videos? If they are out there, then my mistake.

  • Smokey_the_Bear

    pricey…for me. I figured this would be around 2 g’s though…It’ll be the most expensive gun I own….and I do plan to buy it…after it gets reviewed and what not…I can’t drop that much dough on a lemon.