Rare Soviet Bullpup

TKB-022PM

Jerry Miculek posted this picture on his facebook page. It is a TKB-022PM. It boggles my mind how the round is chambered and fired. There doesn’t seem to be any room behind the magazine for anything mechanical to operate.

According to Wikipedia:

The weapons were gas operated with annular gas piston located around the barrel and a vertically moving bolt, which made it possible to minimize the length of the receiver group. A U-shaped rammer/extractor was used to chamber and extract the cartridge by pushing it into the chamber where after discharge was pulled back from the chamber and again, upon feeding the new cartridge, pushed forward and slightly up into an ejection tube above the barrel where finally exiting above the muzzle. Due to this ejection mechanism it was possible to fire from both right and left arm positions.

Here is a video of other rare Soviet bullpups. (it is more like a slide show)



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • Jeff

    Where does it eject?

    • Anon

      iirc it ejects rear or the grip, spitting spent cases out of the bottom. I could be wrong, its been a year or so since I bothered goggling over this

      • Giolli Joker

        Nope, it ejects forward, through a chute over the barrel…
        Well ahead of its times.
        (as written in this article, BTW…)

        • roguetechie

          The bullpup forum actually has pictures of it’s internals hot linked from Russian gun forum sources. Which are correct. I can say this with confidence because they match up exactly with photographs a German gun magazine was allowed to take of the easily removable parts way back in the day. Pookieweb.dydns.org had a copy of the complete article posted in fairly high resolution on it’s site at one point. I’m fairly sure you can actually get to said scans through archive.org.

          Honestly though just go to the bullpup forum thread. It’s got all the information anyone but OCD aspegers kids like me that grew up and discovered auto desk screen calipers and gingery books at a tender age could ever want.

          Side note…. you know you’re different when your wife looks over at your tablet shakes her head and says why guns? Just once I’d like to look over and catch you looking at porn!!
          Did I mention I love my wife?

          Heh

  • Anon

    Some of us at a certain imageboard figured out how this thing operated a while back, at least as much as could be figured out without taking one apart firsthand.

    The guy who designed it was literally schizo, but was a damn visionary for his time. One could say maybe he had too many vodka-cosmoline tonics

    • lenny

      I believe I was in that thread, and I’m pretty sure we were all wrong, k?

      • iksnilol

        It has a vertically moving bolt and ejects from the front. That’s pretty much what I know.

    • anon

      Ssssshhhhhhhh. They will find out Alex C. likes cartoons of chinese girls, and is dating donut

  • Jtr156

    Thing looks like it came out of freaking Borderlands

    • Zugunder

      Vladof FTW! 🙂

    • USMC03Vet

      Hope it does acid damage. Otherwise off to the vendor!

    • Zebra Dun

      Call of Duty Black Ops maybe!

    • Matt Shermer

      JAKOBS FAMILY FOR LIFE!!!

    • Try Again

      If there is an adequate video game where rare socviet bullpup could rise and be naturally implemented (and with mods they ARE) it’s the STALKER series and not your unsklilled lama farming pseudo hack n’ slash cell shaded borderlands or Casual Of Duty..
      Cheeki breeki Iv Damke Rookie

  • Giolli Joker

    German Koborov… How I’d love to see his designs industrialized into modern products.
    BTW, the website of Max Popenker is by far the best English language source of info on Russian guns: http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/korobov-tkb-022-e.html

    • Guys, his name is Korobov, not Koborov.

      • Giolli Joker

        You’re definitely right!
        I don’t know for how long my brain has been misreading his name. 🙁

  • ASterisk

    Man, the Soviets really liked their Bakelite

    • Iggy

      Actually the Bakelite was one reason (beyond the complexity/unusal designs) that none of Koborov’s stuff was adopted, they weren’t sure how well it would keep if left in a warehouse for 20-50 years. Same reason they didn’t later adopt a polymer framed Makarov which would otherwise have beaten the Vp-70 by a few years

      • His name was Korobov.

        And I think it’s not Bakelite, Bakelite is very, very brittle and is the grand-dad of plastics used even in Korobov’s time. I remember very old telephones made out of the stuff. It’s like stale cake – granular and brittle inside.

        • mikewest007

          Hey, I had to cut a hole in an old radiation detector made of bakelite. The thing was at least 40 years old, and the material itself wasn’t as brittle as you’d think. First, unlike modern stuff like polystyrene or PVC, it didn’t melt when cut with a dremel – it generated shitloads of dust instead. Second, it wasn’t as granular inside as you’d think – a section was about half an inch thick and the inside was pretty solid and uniform.

  • Rob

    With the extreme lack of space aft of the magazine, a reciprocating bolt behind the cartridge isn’t possible. Perhaps there is a thin arm that strips the cartridges and pulls them forward into the chamber and then the bolt slides vertically into place behind this? Sort of an automated falling block action. If the bolt was short, it would make the overall action length shorter than a standard action. The reciprocating cartridge loading/ejecting arm would be along side the barrel instead of behind it.

  • iksnilol

    That is one of the guns I always wanted… Still want it. Would be especially nice with a 30-31 cm barrel + a suppressor that extends 10 cm.

    Would love to have the blueprints for it but that is so far only a pipedream.

  • Mike

    I figured it would operate similar to a Boberg pistol.
    How it operates:
    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7372/11235390395_dc6587b0c4_o.png

    • Max Popenker

      .

  • mechamaster

    It’s like Soviet version of Steyr ACR in 7,62x39mm mated with Magpul PDR compactness.

  • Nicholas Mew

    Vest guess.

    • dan citizen

      Pretty close actually.

      While working over there I saw some internal pics. It was to long ago to recall specifics, I just remember the U shaped stirrup that picked up rounds

      • Max Popenker

        corrected myself – yes, that’s close. Though the breech of the barrel is closer to the magazine

    • You beat me to it, I was just about to post this. It is, in fact, how the TKB-022PM operates. Well done.

  • Julian

    Nice guns, but they forgot the AO 46, an interesting Russian PDW prototype.
    For the TKB 022, the rifle and the design were too advanced for the era, like the G11, or an experimental french pistol (Cold war remain), which could be fired fromtwo different grips.

  • Lance

    Bullpups suck and even the Evil Empire knows that.

  • Cymond

    Here’s a discussion on it’s internal operations. Special thanks to roguetechie for the source.

    http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=4471.0

  • Michael R. Zupcak

    Good lord, talk about length of pull!

  • M

    Just checked the measurements on this thing and it just screams : “make it as compact as possible”

    16″ barrel, 20″ overall length, 5.15lbs, supposedly “three times” more accurate than an AK. (So…. NATO service rifle accuracy)

  • andrey kireev

    Now let’s hope Keltec never gets hold of schematics for this…

  • andrey kireev

    Now let’s hope Keltec never gets hold of schematics for this…

    • SM

      It’s ok. They wouldn’t make enough for anyone to actually buy one.

  • Sam

    all dat bakelite

  • Sam Pensive

    the triple was a nice idea!