The Bushmaster/Remington ACR is, at least in my experience, a really enjoyable rifle to shoot. But the downside, for consumers at least, is that neither Remington, who own the design, or Magpul, who designed it and who receive royalties on each ACR sold, are not developing aftermarket upgrades for it. It was supposed to be a multi-platform and multi-caliber rifle system. TFB reader Luke is still keeping the faith, but only just. He writes …

Hey guys, long time reader and (unfortunately?) an ACR owner. If you ever want a photograph of something that’s been both a joy and an utter and complete pit of disappointment to own, well, here it is. It absolutely destroys me to think that Bushmaster/Remington has seemingly all but abandoned any support for this rifle. No caliber change kits, no replacement barrel kits, no hand guard replacements, and limited to no parts availability. Just broken promises, missed deadlines, and corporate mumbo jumbo. The aftermarket doesn’t even seem to want to touch this thing either for some reason. Hell, other owners are getting desperate enough for parts that a number of them are finding ways to modify airsoft parts for it. C’mon, Bushmaster!

Bushmaster began selling a DMR version of the ACR earlier this year, but are not selling the DMR barrels or stocks so that existing owners can upgrade.

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  • ColaBox

    Remington ever specify why they don’t want to release the after market parts? The handguard alone looks like it would rake in a lot of cash for them.

    • seans

      That handguard is sold by Magpul, you can by one with ease

      • Sadly the longer DMR handguard isn’t available from Magpul, Remington, or Bushmaster. I’m not even sure you can get the airsoft one anymore.

      • ed

        “Buy” 😉

    • Anonymoose

      Because they care more about profits from fudds who continue to buy their overpriced (and many times defective) bolt-actions, pumps, Remlin lever guns, and XM15s because muh brand loyalty.

      • denner

        Well Moose, not true about recent Bushys and DPMS. Just bought a brand new XM-15 and it’s an excellent build and a tack driver. Their varmint line are excellent AR’s as well. DPMS makes a great AR as well. I don’t know where you got your information, but you are dead wrong about those two manufacturers quality at present, who ever they are owned by.

        • Zachary marrs

          How many examples have you used?

        • BattleshipGrey

          I also consider Remington products high priced. As far as QC, ever read a thread about someone wanting to build a precision bolt gun from a Remington 700? The first thing they’re informed of is that they’ll have to replace a number of parts, including the trigger. If it weren’t for the M40 sniper rifle, Remington wouldn’t have near as much name recognition as it does.

          • Zachary marrs

            For a good rifle oob, its hard to beat the winchester model 70

          • As my friends and I like to joke: “The Remington 700 – the best $300 rifle you can buy for $750!”

            I’m a CZ/Howa fan myself.

      • Cymond

        That’s really weird & dumb. They should care more about profits. Period.
        If people will buy the products, then it would be wise to sell the products.

    • K.R.

      The current Remington ACR is an evolution of the system and thus most parts are not compatible with the legacy system sold by Bushmaster.

  • Joshua

    The sad thing to me was this rifle had such potential but just fell flat on its face.

    Even Remington were unable to save it. The Polish had horrible luck with it and Remington themselves quoted parts life at 7,500 rounds and MRBS at 600 which is oddly worse than the M4A1.

    • floppyscience

      “Even Remington were unable to save it.”

      They’re the ones who ruined it in the first place, so what do you mean by that?

      • Joshua

        It didn’t really matter at that point. Magpul made the mistake of going with the AR bolt instead of their different prototype 4 lug rounded bolt.

        How can you increase bolt life by using a C158 AR bolt design and tossing it in a more violent action.

        Shoulda gone with their prototype bolt.

        • kzrkp

          is there a picture of the prototype bolt?

      • Cal S.

        What, after their unfailing success with the R51?

        Lol

        • BattleshipGrey

          Cal S., technically it was before the fall of the R51, sorry to nitpick.

        • Joshua

          Remington does make sometimes good guns, see the M2010.

          Although if memory serves me PEO came up with the design, but the point is if they are given a good design than can make it.

          • Leonard

            A good design can build itself. A great MFG can take a mediocre design, and tool it into a good one. The ACR mess and the R51 disaster speaks enough about Remington where I will NEVER own one. Too many other choices.

    • K.R.

      Please provide sources/links for your claims.

      • Joshua

        You’ll have to know some Polish guys to get their experiences, but it was plainly printed in their brochures and tossed in tons of sales pitches.

        They bragged about their 7,500 MRBEFF and how they achieve 2xM4 requirements for stoppages(which is only 300 rounds) and something the M4A1 has been doing for over 10 years.

        • K.R.

          So your claims were based off knowing Polish guys, sales pitches you heard and product literature that you can’t reproduce? If you had any credibility, it’s gone now…

          • Joshua

            Well I know some Polish SF from my time in the military, and downloading the Remington catalog is not a feat that I figured you needed help doing.

            I mean if you really need help I can walk you through how to download a pdf brochure offline.

            The original requirements for the M4 was 300 mean rounds between stoppages and 3000 mean rounds between failures. The M4A1 has 1,261 rounds between stoppages and a little over 6,000 rounds between failures. (all parts will go a little past 10,000 rounds, but the barrel is toast by 6,800 with M855A1)

    • Charles Batchelor

      It has issues like only useable by right handed shooters for the most part. And with the wars winding down, less ordered from the government will be coming in. I think the military would be better off moving to the Kel-Tec RFB (it’s a bullpup chambered in 7.62mm and ejects out the front so dexterous).

      • Philip Nielsen

        Wars are winding down, but going to re-start soon.

        • Charles Batchelor

          Except planes don’t use rifles didn’t you know.

        • Tim Sutton

          I am concerned that they are coming here. The wars are what I am referring to.

      • Joshua

        Seriously? You want us to replace the M4A1 with a gun held together clam shell style by 15 allen head screws that they got out of a screw case from walmart? You must be joking.

        They also use what feels like the cheapest plastic available. I swear the A2 grip on my M4A1 feels like it can take more a beating than that whole rifle does.

        • I cannot help but agree. The RFB is one of the last guns I’d recommend for military use, cool as it is.

          • Charles Batchelor

            See above

          • I read it. It doesn’t help your case much. With their record of QC issues, any product from Kel-Tec would have to be completely transformed to meet military standards.

        • Charles Batchelor

          I don’t know what gun you have been using, mine is very solid. And the answer to your question is yes, the M4/M16 is underpowered and too big for MOUT.

          • Joshua

            Seriously, did you just say thevM4 is to big for MOUT?

          • The M4 is not underpowered for CQB.

          • John

            I was about to say, CQB is where carbine sized 556 rifles shine

            Also:
            http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a519801.pdf
            “Interestingly, the one 7.62mm round that received the full evaluation, the M80 fired from the M14 rifle, performed in the same band of performance, which would indicate that for M80 ammunition at least there appears to be no benefit to the larger caliber at close quarters range.”

          • Thank you, John.

      • SD

        You’re joking right?

  • John Bear Ross

    That thing had a lot of promise.

    It’s a shame how it turned out.

    Best,
    JBR

  • i formed one my ACR. i ordered my parts and im still waiting for two parts of it after 8 months of waiting for my stamp.

  • Shayne

    Luke, you bought a gun made by Freedom Group which is owned by Cerberus Capital Management (bankers) which has the distinction of having people that are Anti-2nd Amendment on their board. Cerberus Capital Management (bankers) are not going to put any money into Freedom Group, right now they are just sucking it dry before they sell it. Why Magpul ever got involved with bankers is something they have never fully explained (offered the most money).

    The saving grace is that there might be an escape clause in the Magpul / Cerberus Capital Management contract that if they do not ship enough ACR Magpul can choose to end it. (Magpul owns all patents on the ACR)

    • Beomoose

      The 2nd Amendment leanings aren’t so much in action as is Cerebus’ generally terrible management. They would rather not put money into ANYTHING they own; they prefer riding brads into the dust by slashing costs to increase profits on existing products until the bottom drops out, at which point they sell the now-disaster of a brand to some well-meaning chump or shutter it and look for a new victim.

      • SS Waffen.

        you are describing most of corporate America these days.

  • ARL

    Look at the two most common semi-auto rifles in the US: the AR15 and the AK. What do they have in common (besides variants being used by various militaries)? The designs aren’t limited, anyone can start a company and make ARs or AKs without licensing fees. If any new rifle design wants to get anywhere near as popular, then that design will need to be free to license. My guess is that if Magpul open-sourced the ACR’s design, it would become much more popular due to more companies making clones and aftermarket parts. Magpul would make even more money from increased accessory sales than from whatever licensing fees they get from Remington right now.

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Not to mention you get can into an AR OR AK for about $600 (or less) and upgrade away over time. The ACR clocks in at $1500 or so. So… one REALLY nice AR (or AK), or 2-3 mediocre AR’s (or AK’s) that you can upgrade over time as your wallet allows?

      For the price of an ACR you can literally buy two AR’s (or AK’s) in different calibers. Who needs a caliber change kit which will likely be overpriced for an overpriced (in my opinion) platform when you can just get another rifle…?

      • BattleshipGrey

        Well said. Obviously the concept of quick change conversion kits is a great idea, either for cheaper plinking or mission specific. I just wish companies would understand that they can’t charge the money that they do. I fully understand that they have to recover R&D costs and that their market will be a bit smaller, but really. The Tavor 9mm conversion kit is my case in point: http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/iwi-tavor-sar-9mm-caliber-conversion-kits-detail.html?Itemid=0

        • Ge

          I think that is true of all caliber conversions that aren’t simple barrel/bolt swaps though… the 9mm AR kits have been out for decades but the price of the parts to make such a build would still be similarly priced

    • 1. Armalite isn’t making any money on the guns they don’t make.

      2. Both the AK and AR were adopted as standard issue by a superpower and produced in the millions before they became “open source”.

      I can’t think of any reason Magpul should have open-sourced the design.

  • aalbert

    acrforum.com is full of members that love and completely support the acr. many members are creating and marketing new accessories.

  • TheSmellofNapalm

    I had such high hopes for this rifle, ever since a prototype version was featured on Future Weapons. I obtained the rights to the ACR Facebook page to update all of its specs, I shared the promotional videos for it, I knew the gun inside and out without ever even handling one in person. And then it came out on the market and basically pooped on all my expectations. Truly unfortunate.

  • VermithraxPerjorative

    “…neither Remington…or Magpul…are not developing aftermarket upgrades for it”

    Proofread, please! This “sentence” does not make sense. I think I pulled my reading muscle just figuring it out. Neither/nor. Either/or. Double negative. C’mon, are yall just trolling now?

    • SlippedThroughTheCracks

      The rod up your butt must have a rod up its butt.

      GTFO

      • MattInTheCouv

        the tagline is “firearms…not politics”. it isn’t “firearms…not grammar nazis”

        • big daddy

          There is room for improvement. I will take a lot of gun news and a little poor grammar over good grammar and very little gun news. So I overlook little inaccuracies and concentrate on content. I am no master at writing myself. In fact very few great writers have a great knowledge of grammar. To read something with proper grammar is much more painful than reading this stuff.

          • Hank Seiter

            Amen.
            Now spellcheck … er, spell-check … uh spell check that!

      • VermithraxPerjorative

        Look, I like this site; I like it a lot. I visit it multiple times daily. I don’t see a problem with wanting at least high school english standards from people whose job is to write.

        I think the guys writing for this site do a great job bringing interesting and intelligent firearms related information and topics without the inflammatory political rhetoric one sees on other sites. Having someone proof-read and edit the posts would just bring more polish and readability to what is already one of my favorite gun blogs.

        I intended it as criticism of the constructive kind. Obviously my tone was off and I apologize for any offense.

        • TDog

          Does anyone other than me find it amusing that the guy proclaiming to be a grammar Nazi has misspelled “pejorative” in his name, needlessly hyphenated “proofread,” and didn’t capitalize “English” in his response? 😉

          I mean no offense because I myself hate what the Internet has done to English grammar, but it’s not the most glowing endorsement of your message when you engage in the same sort of errors you’re calling TFB out on.

          • Horseflesh

            No. Just you. Just because he’s a knob doesn’t excuse bad writing on a blog.

          • TDog

            Practice what you preach… or perhaps leading by example is dead in this day and age of pointing fingers and making excuses?

          • El Duderino

            Hai u guyz r awl badd spelurz. Hee hee.

            Seriously, that sentence in the article hurt my brain too. Nice catch but yeah, that dude needs to check out the 2×4 in his eye first.

          • TDog

            I spellz reel gud, so bak off!!! 😉

          • Cymond

            Reread his posts, he never proclaimed himself to be a ‘grammar Nazi’. He was given the label by MattInTheCouv.

          • TDog

            And obviously didn’t correct him on the misspelled moniker.

          • Hank Seiter

            No, he didn’t call himself one but he certainly ACTED as one. We all KNOW what a “spelling Nazi” is. But Guest’s point is well taken, unless blog comments have simply become more glorified examples of text messages.

          • Cymond

            Actually, he never commented about spelling either, he was commenting about a nearly incomprehensible “sentence”. People attacked him for his own spelling mistakes rather than acknowledge his points.

            And he wasn’t originally ‘Guest’. When Disqus posts are deleted, they change to ‘Guest’ to preserve the conversation & replies. Apparently we ran him off.

            How hostile has this community become?

          • billyoblivion

            Internet law. Posts complaining about grammar and spelling must have grammar or spelling errors.

        • Hank Seiter

          What’s this about bringing more Poles to this blog?
          Heh!

    • sssssssss

      Get over it.

    • ed

      I think it means they’re both developing upgrades. Yeah, pretty sure.

  • Steve Martinovich

    I was so damned close to buying this rifle…thank God.

    • RobGR

      You and me both.

      But, deep down, I still want one.

  • HSR47

    For all intents and purposes, the reason why the ACR has never taken off is that it’s a highly modular design that, due to the decisions of Remington/BM/FGI/CCM et. al., is effectively non-modular because spare/conversion parts are practically nonexistent.

    I love the idea of the ACR; I’ve handled several, and I’ve put rounds downrange with at least one. Still, I can’t see myself buying one until there is substantive aftermarket support for it (bolts, barrels, fore-ends, etc.) in calibers I care to shoot (read: not 6.8 SPC).

    The real problem is that Rem/FGI/BM/CCM et. al. decided to license and produce a MODULAR rifle, and then mooted that modularity by failing to actually bring the necessary parts to market.

    At this point, it seems to be a catch 22: They’re not going to come out with the modular parts/accessories until they sell enough rifles, and they’re never going to sell enough rifles if they don’t bring those parts to market….

    • BattleshipGrey

      It would help if they dropped the price… a lot.

  • GUNxSPECTRE

    Well, so much for the “ACR vs. FN SCAR” champion bout.

    At least people’ve been talking about the SCAR. Not to mention a respectable amount of third-party accessories and such for it.

    • MAUSERMAN

      SCAR is awesome. I own both 16 and 17.
      17 us by far my favorite .308 battle rifle. I own PTR91, M1A, FAL, and even a .308 AR. SCAR 17 beats them all!!!!
      Please do not compare ACR to SCAR. SCAR is just better in every way.

      • It certainly seems to have fewer problems.

        • seans

          The SCAR family has a had a large amount of problems. Fortunately FN has been pretty proactive about trying to solve them. Coupled with the fact it was forced on white side SOF, has helped it get considerably better. Not great, but vastly improved quality over the initial models.

          • Well, at least it is not made entirely of Allen screws.

          • Joshua

            Ugh the SCAR, we had the L forced on us and we were all so thrilled when we got our M4A1’s back and then got the DD RIS II added to them.

      • GUNxSPECTRE

        Oh, I know. It’s pretty obvious.

        And if you’ve been paying attention these past few years, literally everybody’s been comparing ACR’s to SCAR’s. Because, you know, that whole “replace the M4” thing. So yeah, you’re preaching to the choir.
        While the SCAR has been purchased and used by a lot of countries, the ACR’s really only been stewing in its own failure.

      • Hank Seiter

        I also own what you have though I have a CETME instead of a PTR91. Throw in a Tavor and a Beretta ARX100 and my sentiments are still very similar to yours. The SCAR in both 16 and 17 are awesome.

        • joe schemo

          I have both scar 16 and 17. I agree with both of you they are awesome. I run my scar 16 bone dry and only clean it once a year. Not to mention i am dirt cheap. Only shoot cheapest wolf ammo i can find 4 years now my 16 never failed me. I trust it with my life!!

  • At the risk of starting something, I’m not really sure what the great “potential” of the ACR was supposed to be. It’s not fundamentally different from an AR-15, while being more expensive and heavier.

    Now, let’s all enjoy a nice video of an ACR failing hard.

    • Man pippy

      It was the Magpul hype machine, Magpul are really good at marketing so got everyone worked up about their new rifle, which turned out to be ridiculously heavy and very expensive.

      • Hank Seiter

        I do agree with the gouge pricing aspect of the ACR. They could have had a distributor/wholesale price of $900 and retailed it for $1250 which would put it right with the higher-end ARs. The same goes for Beretta’s ARX-100. It boils down to: Is it better to sell a 100,000 units at $2,000 or a million units at $1,000? The latter yields a greater gross value but the former may yield a bigger profit because of lower payroll and lower wear and tear on the manufacturing tools and machinery as well as the cost of materials despite making a greater “profit” on paper.

        The problem for most is the reality there are people like me who don’t mind paying a few hundred dollars more for something most people won’t ever have or get to experience. Sorry, but that’s how the hard-knock-life cookie crumbles.

      • Leonard

        The hype and allure of the ACR/Massada whatever was the price/feature point. For $1500 it was suppose to be a reliable, ambidextrous, piston driven alternative that had parts commonality with the AR-15 family. It failed in craptacular fashion because the final product was nothing like what they were advertising.

    • n0truscotsman

      I used to be in love with the concept of the ACR but came to the realization soon that its weight increase compared to the m4 didn’t improve reliability (not even close). Furthermore, it didn’t take ayahuasca tea consumption-induced omniscience for me to realize that it is essentially a modernized AR18 with a few differences.

      It seems that bushmaster dropped it like a unwanted prom date as soon as they could, which is a disappointment.
      I’ve used one in a training course that belonged to a previously happy owner that ended up sending it back to the gun store; he traded it for a Bushmaster AR that hasn’t had any issues in 4 years, despite being run hard.

    • K.R.

      The launch and subsequent marketing of the ACR to military and civilian markets has been a failure. That being said, your inability to recognize the potential of the design and your comparison to an AR makes me wonder if you have actually seen/operated an AR or ACR. Are there any other videos on YouTube that show other firearms “failing hard”, or is this the only one? Respectfully, your “contribution” is detrimental to your credibility and this blog in general.

      • Wow, ooook.

        • big daddy

          You can’t please everybody.

          • Atticus Bryant

            I think someone owns an ACR.

          • big daddy

            I wouldn’t touch one. I went with the AR because of how well supported they are. It does look like an ACR fanboy. Man say something bad about a Glock or Colt and they come out of the woodwork. I stay with what works for me, they may not be perfect but they are best alternative, ARs and S&W M&Ps.

          • Hank Seiter

            Read my previous comments. I will honestly admit, however, when all factors are considered, the AR-15/M4/M16 platform is, dollar-for-dollar, the best buy you can make with respect to the “black rifle”. I’d just as soon have every Second Amendment patriot armed with an AR-15 with every tenth patriot having a scoped SCAR 17.
            Just sayin’.

    • I think the potential was to own that gun from call of duty.

    • BillC

      If I wanted to watch 9 minutes of something sucking, I’d just watch porn

    • Hank Seiter

      There is no “great potential” of the ACR over the M-4/AR-15 platform. It’s just simply cool and different and it does work (reliably so in my experience) despite all the handwringing here.

      After all, there’s no greater potential of a Savage Model 10 over the more well-established Remington 700 when it comes to MOA distance shooting. I have both and they both operate equally well with 168 and 175 grain match loads.

  • DiverEngrSL17K

    @ Beomoose & Shayne :

    I think you are both quite correct regarding Cerberus’ business model, which is unfortunately all too typical of many ( though not all ) private equity investment / management groups — buy a company, milk it for all it’s worth, then sell it off in exchange for a tidy profit, and never mind about the jobs and livelihoods destroyed in the process as long as the principals and key investors make their bundle.

    I have always found it ironic that this particular company has been named after the three-headed hellhound of Greek mythology that guarded the gates of Hades to prevent trapped souls from escaping, and anyone outside from entering — how very appropriate in this context.

    • Hank Seiter

      After purveying the various comments on this thread, I’ve come to the conclusion that the main complaints about the ACR really isn’t about the weapon itself but rather it’s price. If the ACR was being sold for $1000, 90% of the people posting here would have bought one and been completely happy with it … all the other esoteric blah, blah, blah aside.

      • DiverEngrSL17K

        You have a very good point there, Hank — thank you for your valuable input. I think the ACR has not been given the chance for proper long-term development and the ironing-out of teething issues ( to all — remember, there are very few, if any, firearms that have not had to go through this process in one way or the other, regardless of eventual success ) so that it’s full potential can be at least be partially realized — and I also think a good part of the problem has to do with corporate policy that emphasizes short-term profits over long-term gain and the continuity that attends that tradition.

        To put it bluntly, the Wall Street get-rich-quick business model that emphasizes maximization of monetary gains over far more important long-term values such as tradition, humanity, continuity and long-term success has finally come home to roost within the firearms community we all treasure so much, as it has insidiously corrupted almost every other facet of the socio-economic fabric. Just look at the recent Great Recession, among so many other instances, where “the chosen” have gotten richer at everyone else’s expense.

        The question that we must now collectively address is this : do we go along with the persuasions of an often-enticing corporate message, or do we finally dig our heels in and try to achieve some sort of real equilibrium?

  • Peter

    The ACR was supposed to be the poor man’s SCAR . . . but it’s $1900 to SCAR’s $2300. And a Sig 556xi can be had for $1200 . . .
    Nice gun – dead on arrival. Guess Remington was too busy w/ the R51 . . .

    • Hank Seiter

      Actually, my ACR cost $2000 and my SCAR 16 cost $2750. Generally, that’s the real world right now.

      • Don’t Drone Me Bro

        Where the heck did you pay that much for a SCAR-16? Aside from the panic, they’ve been about $2300-2400 for a while. The 17 around $2600-2800.

  • darrel

    When I was in recruit training, almost two years ago, there was a kid/man who was the son of the owner of Bushmaster, or at least someone in very high standing in the company. He would never shut the heck up about the ACR. He had apparently had extensive time to shoot it and mess around with it, and was intimately familiar with the design process and the troubleshooting the company went through after magpul sold it to them. He swore on his life that it was superior to the M16 in every possible way.

    I kind of knew the details about the rifle, but I didn’t really believe him. After we left (this kid actually got recycled to another company for some reason) I did a bit of research and my respect for the rifle grew. However, there just wasn’t enough support for the rifle, like the article mentions. I don’t think anyone would just casually spend this much money on a rifle that does not afford them any rail-real-estate or allow them to modify it to fit their needs.

  • Leetwin

    Just wait for proper gun 😉 MSBS:

  • K.R.

    Is it possible to discuss the capabilities/performance of the ACR without discussing the obvious marketing failures of the manufacture? Bushmaster’s continued support and development of this weapon are abysmal at best. What is the correlation between the lack of factory supplied accessories or perceived high price and the weapon’s actual performance? Does the lack of a Bushmaster .300 BLK conversion kit make 5.56 variants less reliable/durable? Because the retail price is twice that of a Colt 6920, does that make the ACR inaccurate or unsuitable for defensive use?

    Obviously, the poor marketing/development/support of this weapon has crippled its sales. That’s why I find the disproportionate ratio of weapons produced to online opinions had to be so amusing.

  • CallMeColt45

    My ACR has 5 barrels in different lengths and 3 calibers. Am about 9000 rounds with minimal parts breakage. Yea, it is expensive, but has the most potential. Lots of growing pains. Folks in the 60’s had the same arguments as y’all about the AR platform. Out of the new generation of rifles, the ACR brings a lot to the table. Just to show that I’m not being a keyboard commando and talking about my Call of Duty ACR, here is a link to my YouTube ACR playlist. I’ve made & uploaded a few videos over the past few years with R&D that I have done. Check out http://www.acrforum.com as well.

    • J

      It’s good that 1 out of 10,000 customers are happy.

      • Hank Seiter

        Pretty impressive. You did a nice job. Thanks for posting your videos. My experiences with the ACR has been very positive though I admit it’s with my ACR and not a random selection of ten.

    • Joshua

      What is minimal parts breakage?

  • big daddy

    Did I love the AR so much that I have 8 of them, no way. I hates the m16A1 while in the army, I thought it was a POS compared to the WWII era guns I was used to seeing and holding as a youth. The reason I have that many is simple, there are so many of them, so many parts for them and so many companies making parts for them that for me it was the only way to go. I have them in 5.56mm, 9mm and now .300 blackout. I might build a .40cal next year as parts seem to be coming out for slowly. Is it the best rifle out there? No way. I also know that the Bushmaster XM10 can take some AR parts like pistol grips, stocks and handguards, so that gun is on my list. How can any rifle compete with that? They can’t. You can make the AR into anything you want, even change the operation to piston, make a precision rifle out of it in many calibers or a pistol with a SIG brace. So any rifle that comes out unless it has a military contract and companies just waiting to make parts for it you can forget about that gun becoming a viable alternative to the AR. It was a great concept but reality dictates that it’s about the bottom line, money. No military contracts, no real gigantic step forward in technology and like the DOD figured out it’s not worth it to change. So for now and in the near and distant future I’ll stick with the AR system, not out of love for it but out of simple practicality.

    • DiverEngrSL17K

      Big Daddy, you’ve brought up a most compelling point. One wonders if the market actually drives the product, or if it is more often than not the other way around.

  • Rusty Shovel

    I wanted the ACR, but I’m glad I waited for the hype to die down. I purchased an LWRC Individual Carbine instead, figuring it for the safer bet–then Colt bought LWRC. Damn.

    The good news is that the Individual Carbine is an amazing rifle in it’s own right. (I’m crossing my fingers as to continuing corporate support.)

    The ACR seems more like a stepping stone. A step in the right direction, mind you, but not the destination. I think Remington knows this too.

    At the ACR’s price-point, there are too many other (better) options available.

  • Tim U

    It would have been a great rifle if…

    1. It had kept around magpul’s original $1400-1500 estimate MSRP

    2. It had the support to be modular like they wanted. Instead, they sold two models and not a lot of parts, and none of the promised caliber conversions.

    Had they rolled them out at 1500 instead of 1900 and had bothered to follow through on the caliber conversions and extras, it would likely have been a success.

  • Phillip

    I also am happy with mine. I purchased this weapon over the SCAR about 3 or 4 years ago and I’m happy with the decision. I like the SCAR platform, but I believe there are many aspects of the ACR that make the design superior. (I also own a SCAR 17 which I shoot more frequently because it’s 7.62) I previously used to use AR platforms and still own several. Just because you can order tricked out parts to upgrade a older platform is no indication of being superior. Just what do you need for the ACR that is not already on the weapon? I added a EOtech, magnifier and Surefire light. Maybe a can, but it’s got everything else you could need. Mine has never had a failure in thousands of rounds through it. FYI – I was shooting a 20″ Colt AR in High Power competition 25 years ago, when it was called a “mouse gun” by my M1A friends.

    • “Just what do you need for the ACR that is not already on the weapon?”

      Negative 1.5 pounds.

      • runandgun

        Measure that with other monolithic receiver, piston operated weapons in the same caliber with a quick change barrel….

  • TheBelgian

    Glad I got a SCAR 17S instead!!

  • Scott Snoopy

    having had a chance to work extensively with both the ACR and the SCAR, I found both left me unimpressed. They were far more expensive than a M4 and at the time there was no support for the SCAR, Remington/Bushmaster dragged their corporate ass and killed the ACR; which seemed to fit better than the SCAR. Sadly the big green machine in NC is killing off most everything under their umbrella that wasn’t created by Remington.

  • Leonard Poujeaux

    Did you hear about the adaptive carbine rifle that only fires one caliber?

  • There should be a Class Action suit on this. Many people bought these on the promise of the caliber change kits coming. I sold many on that very promise.
    I feel like we have been flat out lied to.

    • ed

      “Buy the rifle, not the story”

  • ducky

    When I hear ACR it always reminds me this:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e6d_1284785447
    Very funny – even for Germans like me 🙂

  • Hank Seiter

    I bought one and have absolutely no regrets. It’s right up there with the SCAR (okay, just barely), IWI Tavor and other high-end AR platforms. I was also impressed with Beretta’s ARX-100 despite all the “negatives” about the trigger which wasn’t really as bad as the critics were claiming. My ACR trigger pulls at 6.5 pounds with very little creep and no perceptible creep during actual string firing.

    BTW, I can get double-taps to hit Center Of Mass out to 100 meters with the ACR.

    If you have the bankroll, it’s well worth getting one and forget the “multi-caliber” role, it’s plain fun as 5.56 — though I admit having one in 6.8 is certainly a temptation.

  • mbrd

    is anyone really surprised that the bean counters running bushmarlington might fail to consider the welfare of their consumer base?

  • Kable Holding

    The aftermarket is alive and well for the ACR, coe visit us over at the ACR Forum and look into Nefarious Arms, Argonauts REINC, and a couple other forum members producing after market parts for the ACR. There are members with all length barrels as well as in 7.62, with AK lowers, 6.8 SPC II, and 300 BLK.

  • DIR911911 .

    not sure what the problem is , the one i use on modern warfare 3 never has any issues 🙂

  • ed

    “Neither Remington…(n)or Magpul…are not developing aftermarket upgrades for it.” Does that mean they’re both developing upgrades? Seems like that would be a good thing for owners.
    Grammar Nazi, signing out.

  • Pedro

    So I glad I got the FN SCAR instead.

  • Chris Floyd

    I’ll admit I bought into the ACR platform about 6 months after release. I’d been waiting since the Masada display at SHOT several years ago. I still find it a shame that MagPul couldn’t or wouldn’t make the production investment to push the Masada to bot the Military markets and civilian markets. I get why, but talk about a seriously missed opportunity.

    Anyway, started having FTE issues with my ACR about 2 range trips in. I happened to be running a fresh batch of LC M193 and M885. The M885 worked fairly well though accuracy beyond 100m suffered for some reason. Swapped over to the 193 and had tons of FTE issues, averaging 1 FTE for just about every 3rd round.

    So I though I might be having over pressure issues, replaced the piston selector and spring (recalled items anyway) and still had the same issues. Called Bushy and the armorer I finally spoke to after pitching a fit with the call center manager finally admitted that 193 is too high pressured for the ACR and that I just should use other ammo.

    Needless to say, my long awaited ACR was sold along with the advice not to use M193 ammo.