Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • Steve

    Just because the slug didn’t penetrate doesn’t mean anything.

    you take one hit from a slug to the chest and you’re probably never going to get back up.

    • Shadow

      You’re forgetting Newton’s 3 laws of motion.

      • Sadler

        You’re making the same mistake that a lot of folks in the YouTube comments made. The only law that really has application in this situation is the 3rd, and it doesn’t take into account impulse. You’re likely going to get at least a cracked sternum if you’re hit in the chest with one of the high brass slugs, while wearing a hard steel plate. You’re safer wearing a ceramic plate in this situation, which would crack or shatter, imparting the energy over a longer period of time, and possibly saving you from more serious injury.

    • dan

      I believe the company also makes a trauma pad to put behind the plate.

    • RaunchyDawg

      Unfortunately you are incorrect. I’m sorry.

  • USMC03Vet

    These are nearly twice the weight compared to ceramic SAPI plates, but significantly cheaper in price. That is some affordable civilian available body armor.

  • Bill

    Bad idea. People get away with it, but shooting slugs at steel is asking for a ricochet. The plate is “hot” because the slugs convert a certain amount of kinetic energy to heat, and will usually at least partially melt. Then they can bounce back, usually on the same route they took.

    Some instructors ban slugs on steel, some don’t, but when you consider the splatter from a pistol bullet impact, think about what a I oz slug can turn into.

    Wearing the armor, I wouldn’t be too worried, for the reason Shadow pointed out. Slugs don’t carry a lot of velocity to begin with, and compared to the me plat of a bullet, the energy is spread over a much larger area. It’ll leave a mark for sure, but the wearer should be OK, unless it’s right over the heart, in which case it might cause some problems.

  • CC

    It’d be nice (frightening?) to see the damage projectile spalling would have caused to the surroundings.

  • Hank Seiter

    The blunt force trauma would pretty much incapacitate/kill a person, if not on the first shot, certainly on the second or third shot. BTW, after getting hit with 50 1 oz. slugs no one is going to be “fine”.
    BTW, though heavy, AR500 is an effective, low cost alternative to ceramic plates. Every serious shooter ought to have a set of front and rear plates. A carrier shell with front, rear and smaller side plates does get pretty heavy, but for static defense situations this setup would make a lot of sense though it would be asking too much for the bad guys to only shoot you center-of-mass.

    • Hilmer Lindberg

      Err… No? The AR500 plate is listed as 7,5 lbs, a Mossberg 590A1 Special Purpose weighs 7,25 lbs. The surface area of the plate is at least 10 times as large as the buttpad on the shotgun, thus the impact on the receiving end of the slug is (At the most) 1/10th of the lbs/sq in. So, no death from blunt force trauma. Science, bitch.

      • M.

        Do you have any idea what impulse is?

        • Hilmer Lindberg

          Yes? It is insignificant in this case. Were it not for the risk of spall, I would happily be shot with a slug while wearing an armor plate to prove my point. It is however easier to watch the video in the article and deduce that the force of the impact does not cause the plate to move with enough energy to hurt anyone.

          • Michael Valera

            Please do sacrifice yourself for science. I don’t think your calculations are going to hold up very well. Especially as the slug really doesn’t give a shit about the weight or surface area of the whole plate.

          • Sadler

            It’s not insignificant. There are plenty of instances of soldiers getting knocked on their asses by a 7.62x54R hitting their chest plate. And they’re running ceramic, which dissipates the impulse when it shatters. Slugs hit quite a bit harder than 7.62x54R, and, if you’re wearing a steel plate, you’re fixing to have some broken bones.