Teludyne Tech $1200 Moszilla Rifle

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Teludyne Tech inventors of the StraightJacket Barrel System is now building custom target Mosin Nagant rifles they’re calling the Moszilla. The StraightJacket Barrel System consists of a thin tube that surrounds the factory barrel with a proprietary substance injected between the barrel and tube. Teludyne claims their system helps increase accuracy, improve heat dissipation and reduce recoil.

Teludyne’s Moszilla Mosin Nagant target rifle uses their StraightJacket Barrel System that they install onto hand picked rifles. The package also includes a ProMag Archangel AA9130 stock and detachable box mag, a Rock Solid scope mount, custom turned down bolt handle and adjustable Timney trigger. All for $1200 (not including optics). Have an extra Mosin sitting around? They can also retrofit your own Mosin Nagant rifle as well. Teludyne claims customers have reported 1 to 1.5 MOA groups. Check out Teludynetech.com for more info.

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Ray is an online marketer who got his start in the auto industry taking pictures and writing about cars. A long time gun enthusiast and blogger, his daily firearms musings can be found over at his gun blog ArmoryBlog.com.


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  • erwos

    I’m doing the math here on the raw materials:
    MN 91/30 with a REALLY good bore: $250 (and this may be an overestimate – I’m thinking along the lines of an M39 or whatever)
    Rock Solid Scope Mount: $110
    AA Mosin Stock: $160

    Turned-down bolt handle: $10
    Timney Trigger: $100
    Their weird barrel-wrap and muzzle brake: ????
    =$630+???

    I am real skeptical that this is a $1200 gun, even with the gunsmithing they’re putting in. If they had dumped the proprietary barrel coating/thingamajig and just gone with a McGowen barrel, yeah, I could buy into the $1200 price point. As it is, I’m leaning more like $900-$1000.

    • erwos

      Also, let me point out that there is probably a fair sized market for someone who could do the following:
      MN 91/30: $100
      McGowen Barrel: $300

      Rock Solid Scope Mount: $110
      AA Mosin Stock: $160
      Turned-down bolt handle: $10
      Timney Trigger: $100

      … and price it at $1050 or so. No really good bolt guns on the market in 7.62x54R these days, and the surplus ammo isn’t THAT inaccurate.

    • Phil Hsueh

      In addition to the additional cost of gunsmithing there’s also general overhead that has to be factored in like rent for the building they’re based in, all of the people working there (not just the gunsmiths). At the end of all of this there’s a profit margin to be factored in so going by your math they’re only making $200 – $300 on each rifle sold, a decent profit but hardly hand over fist.

    • Paul Zimmerli

      I agree with everything you say. I just wanted to commend you for actually calling that a muzzle BRAKE, not the muzzle BREAK everyone seems to be mis-calling it. Of late, I shudder when I read the various gun blogs and gun magazines, and see the effects of built-in Spell-Check everywhere. It seems some (if not most) writers and editors are too lazy to re-read what they’ve written after it goes through the electronic wizardry. I slipped one time in a posting on a highly-specialized forum, and was thoroughly excoriated by my fellow forum members for not editing my post more closely. So, thank you for putting a BRAKE on the BREAK!

    • Rusty Shackleford

      For that price, I had hoped they would at least add a new McGowen barrel for it.

  • Nicks87

    Why are people so dead set on turning a mosin nagant into a precision rifle? There are plenty of bolt action rifle/scope combos that will shoot 2in or better groups right out of the box and cost around $500.

    • erwos

      In 7.62x54R? Do share.

      • displacer

        You could get a nice Savage, Howa, Rem 700, A-bolt, etc for as little as $400 used out the door if you look around and it should be able to shoot just as well as this overpriced monstrosity if not better (1-1.5 MOA isn’t exactly impressive these days.) Sure it won’t be in 7.62x54r but that round isn’t popular because it’s better than newer cartridges, it’s popular because of cheap surplus that isn’t getting any cheaper. As of now the best I can find on gun-deals is 26.1 cents per round shipped (up from about 19 CPRS earlier this year,) but I can handload a decent .308 that won’t corrode my bore if I forget to clean it for not a heck of a whole lot more.

        • Steve Truffer

          Many people cut their teeth on centerfire with them. $200 = 1 decent rifle + 440 rounds. Awesome startup deal. People have an attachment to them, and want their rifle to improve with themselves. 54R is an awesome cartridge to load for, and .308 load can be mimicked at lower pressures. Lower pressure = longer case life and better extraction. Plus, with a higher performance ceiling, it also covers all but a .30-06′s max loads, in a .308 sized action.

          • displacer

            Yeah, I’m actually pretty familiar with reloading 54r. I’ve got a 54r VEPR that will shoot about 3 moa with light ball but 1.5 or better with heavy ball that you can’t find anywhere anymore, so I’ve turned to reloading to fire heavier projectiles on the cheap.

            Problem is, since it’s a low-volume product 54r components aren’t actually that cheap :( I mean reloads are cheaper than PPU but about the only source for 54r virgin brass I’ve been able to find is Lapua (Winchester also makes it but I haven’t found it in stock once since Sandy Hook) which runs about $125/100 shipped and isn’t that easy to find, either. 100 rounds of .308 Lapua brass will cost you about $80 shipped and you have a FAR greater selection of .308 bullets than you do in .311 or .312.

            Keep in mind I’m not against people trying to reload to squeeze some more accuracy out of their old beloved Mosins with practical methods like reloading. That on its own makes perfect sense to me. What doesn’t is that you could build a _really_ nice modern rifle in a Rhineland or XLR chassis for less than what they want for this gun that will shoot better and be cheaper to feed, whether it be handloads or off the shelf match ammo :(

      • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

        Saiga—

        • erwos

          Not a bolt action.

    • Mystick

      Not to mention 1 to 1.5 MOA isn’t that accurate to hold the “custom”, “tack-driver”, and “precision” titles….

    • Komrad

      2″? Hell, you can get 1″ 100yd groups for $400.
      K31 is love
      K31 is life

      • Nicks87

        For sure but I’m talking about the average joe shooter. Some of the comments above suggested that a Mosin was a good entry level rifle and I think thats total BS. Cheap fun is one thing but wouldnt a modern bolt action w/scope, chambered in a popular caliber (308, 270, 30-06) just make more sense?

  • iksnilol

    Not a bad idea IMO, especially with hunting rifles in the 1000 dollar range.

  • John

    The straight jacket system seems like snake oil to me. Any proof??

    • Steve Truffer

      It basically turns your barrel from a pencil profile to a bull barrel, with a tuner thrown in. Handy given that .311 isn’t a popular bore diameter in the US, and not many places have 7.62x54R reamers, so barrel availability is tricky. easier to use a pre-existing barrel. You can kinda DIY this with cardstock barrel mating, If you like the original stock/ barrel cover. Can’t do that with aftermarket stocks, though. And tuners can require an uncomfortably high scope to clear them.

  • DiverEngrSL17K

    There seems to be a complete fixation among the comments to date about the use ( and therefore the pros and cons ) of surplus military 7.62mm x 54R ammunition. Have we all forgotten that there are some extremely accurate ( by any standards, and easily comparable to equivalent top-notch .308, .30-06 or similar ) rounds in this caliber that are readily available, reasonably priced and non-corrosive to boot? A good example is PPU’s 182-grain 7.62mm x 54R match ammunition. I have used this particular round in a VEPR Tactical Sniper rifle as well as a Mosin-Nagant ( admittedly a “Grade A” rifle with very good rifling and in almost mint overall condition ) with excellent, consistent results so far — straight “out of the box”.

    • Steve Truffer

      Yup and $0.40/ round in 54r beats the hell out of paying $1.00 for an identical load in .308.

      • Nathanael S.

        Yeah, but $800.00 buys a lot of premium ammunition.

        • Steve Truffer

          800 for $800, or 2000 for $800?

          • gunslinger

            if you’re a good shot you only need 800 ;-)

  • Squirreltactical

    As much as I’d love to get behind this, $1200 is AR-10 or VEPR money. No thank you.

  • Zugunder

    Moszilla, huh? Sounds almost like “mazila” (someone who can’t hit the target in Russian). Not exactly good nickname for a gun haha!

  • JT

    WHY? They can do it, but the whole point of mosins is that they’re cheap starter rifles. Even the stock upgrade is kind of pushing it, but makes sense in that it’s reliable, accurate within limit and 54R. This rifle looks like it was made for people looking to throw money at things out of boredom.

  • Burst

    I bet that’d be just for the thing for taking down some pesky firefoxes.

  • gunslinger

    1200 bucks for what is basically a 150 buck rifle? they use the same barrel?

    i’ll pass. i already have my 1927 91/30 Hex receiver, in fairly good condition.

  • J.T.

    “Teludyne claims customers have reported 1 to 1.5 MOA groups.”

    With what? Surplus? Commercial match ammo? Handloads? That is the question. If it isn’t with surplus ball, it isn’t worth it.

  • Longrange Bob

    I had one of my rifles “straightjacketed” by the guys at Teludyne Tech. 1. they are awesome people, with great customer service and response. 2. the system actually works, my Winchester M70 .300 WSM was on its best day 1.5″-2″ rifle, especially when the barrel heated up from more than 5 rounds, with serious point of impact shift, that and the light sporter weight, recoil beat the fool out of you.

    Sent it to Teludyne, the rifle shoots now sub-MOA and with the brake on it, recoil is akin to .243 recoil. Mind you this is a .300 WSM shooting hot loaded 208grain AMAX’s.

    Naysay all you want until you shoot one.

  • SafeArmsReview

    Cool that they can do this but for me its cost prohibitive. If I had that much money I would purchase a new rig. The claim of 1 to 1.5 inch group is not spectacular and I don’t know any who would call that a ‘tac driver’.

    If you got money & time to burn, then go for it.

    SAR

  • Blake

    Lipstick on a pig?

    I’d much rather spend a few hundred bucks on a Savage (or put in a more & get a CZ at 1/2 the price of this thing) that will shoot & handle far better than any Mosin-based platform.

    The whole point of the Mosin/Nagant is to get a full-powered rifle for peanuts… Maybe add a butt-pad & good sights & you’re good to go.

  • petru sova

    When will these Jethro Bodine’s understand that the supply of military rifles is very quickly coming to an abrupt end. Nato has ruled that all countries belonging to it must destroy obsolete military rifles to prevent them from being sold to honest citizens. That Mosin you bought for 100 bucks is going to be worth 5 times that very soon but if you butcher it into a sporter it will be worth very little including this latest frankenmonster in the above article. If we look at history every model military rifle that dried up in the market place very soon after shot to astronomical prices in the collector market. Do you really think the same thing will not happen to the Mosin surplus rifles, if you do you will lose out financially very soon.