Franklin Armory CSW

CSW

The folks at Franklin Armory are now selling a firearm called the CSW.  The gun uses many of the same bits and pieces of a standard AR-15, but does not have a pistol grip or shoulder stock.  Instead, the firearm uses a spade grip, similar to what can be found on the M2 machine gun.  Independent triggers are located on each grip.

According to Franklin Armory, the gun is not classified as an “assault weapon” under any known law.  Consequently, it legally eliminates the need for a Bullet Button in California.

A kit will also be available for shooters to convert an AR-15 to the CSW.

Thanks to Cymond for the tip.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • Those guys make a lot of really stupid crap. Almost as bad as Red Jacket’s TV Show thing.

    • iksnilol

      Not so bad, both of them. Would be better if it was a belt-feed conversion too.

    • SP mclaughlin

      Not so stupid if it can bypass laws though.

    • Blake

      They’d only be stupid if they weren’t made to get around stupid laws.

    • Cymond

      “If it’s stupid but it works, it isn’t stupid.”

      The question is, does it work? Maybe. It’s certainly not a new idea, KNS has been making a similar product for years. The fact that they still make it says that someone must be buying them. It may have some uses that we’re not thinking of.

      Also, I still think the XO-26 is genius, especially when paired with a SB-15. Again, not a new idea (see the West-Hurley Thompson 1927A5 “pistol” with vertical foregrip), but it expands our legal options a little more.

  • Renegade

    Fun idea, but too large.

    • Patrick Henry,The2nd

      And expensive. $600 for just the kit??

  • sianmink

    This needs to be coupled with a belt-feed AR upper like STAT.

  • matthew_carberry

    Pair it with a Shrike upper?

    • Diesel

      How about mixing the Shrike with the Slidefire of Fostech DefendAR?

  • Rob

    ew wth is it? I don’t even understand the point of it, there is the idea that we can make a lighter .50 cal machine gun but on the other hand this platform is not designed in any function to fufill such a role.

  • BOB

    needs a slidefire-esque mechanism

  • dan citizen

    soon to be featured in every low budget sci-fi film

  • 101nomad

    ok, now, this is getting a little weird. Suppose I could set one up pointing at front door, or other likely entry point. Not likely to throw it in the back and go shooting tho. Yes, California weird (not all of California). Choices are wonderful, use them while you have them.

  • Cymond

    FWIW, it’s also allowed to use pre-ban full capacity magazines in California.

    I’m not sure why they chose to use an A1/A2 extension instead of a shorter carbine buffer extension.

    They’ve claimed on the Calguns forum that they’ve actually sold a fair number of the kits as a cheap alternative to a light machinegun. I can’t verify that, but it does make some sense. There was a time when the US gov sold surplus M-16s to police departments for incredibly low prices.

    Also, since it isn’t a stock, the CSW should be useable on a pistol lower with a short barrel. Why would you want to? I don’t know, but maybe someone else does.

    On the other hand, KNS Precision also makes a set of spade grips, but they use a carbine buffer so it’s a lot more compact, and the KNS spade grips only cost $460 instead of $600. Howevever, the KNS spade grips have an exposed trigger linkage, which is less than ideal.

    http://www.knsprecisioninc.com/gun-parts-and-accessories/tripods/ar-15-m-16-spade-grip-accessory.html

  • Cymond

    FWIW, it’s also allowed to use pre-ban full capacity magazines in California.

    I’m not sure why they chose to use an A1/A2 extension instead of a shorter carbine buffer extension.

    They’ve claimed on the Calguns forum that they’ve actually sold a fair number of the kits as a cheap alternative to a light machinegun. I can’t verify that, but it does make some sense. There was a time when the US gov sold surplus M-16s to police departments for incredibly low prices.

    Also, since it isn’t a stock, the CSW should be useable on a pistol lower with a short barrel. Why would you want to? I don’t know, but maybe someone else does.

    On the other hand, KNS Precision also makes a set of spade grips, but they use a carbine buffer so it’s a lot more compact, and the KNS spade grips only cost $460 instead of $600. Howevever, the KNS spade grips have an exposed trigger linkage, which is less than ideal.

    http://www.knsprecisioninc.com/gun-parts-and-accessories/tripods/ar-15-m-16-spade-grip-accessory.html

    • Marcus

      Plus, the KNS looks pretty stupid. I actually like how the Franklin one looks, especially with the C mag.

      • Cymond

        Speaking of the KNS, I found this picture online a few months ago.

  • Michael

    Spade handle, belt fed ( no high capacity magazine), no flash hider, no forward handle thing. = No assault weapon.

    • gunslinger

      legal in CA?

      • Cymond

        Yes, except as I understand it, belts are still restricted to 10 rounds (the belt is treated as a magazine), unless you have a pre-ban belt. If you did have a pre-ban belt, it would probably be legal to continue adding more links. If you let it fully disintegrate, you probably could not rebuild it without “manufacturing” a new “high capacity belt”. Also, dividing it into multiple belts would probably be considered “manufacturing” a new “high capacity belt”.