A Day at Trijicon

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Last Fall, I was invited by Trijicon to their writer event at their training facility just south of the Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia. The morning session was mostly product presentation with a focus on the Trijicon ACOG family, the new battery powered reflex sights such as the RMR mini red-dot and the full size Trijicon SRS. We headed toward the range after a quick lunch.

 

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The first thing we did at the range was taping up all the ACOG rifle optics. The setup was for doing drills using the Bindon Aiming Concept. Which is a technique that use both eyes for aiming magnified optic at close range.

 

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Daniel Defense AR-15s with 16-inch M4 profile barrel. Besides the Magpul CTR lightweight collapsible stock and the Daniel Defense quad-rail free-float handguard, those are basically stock.

 

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I took the opportunity to try out the new battery powered TA02 ACOG 4×32 LED model. This LED illuminated model is noticeably lacks the fiber optic run along the top like the rest of the ACOG models. The sealed battery compartment added a bit of weight and together with the illumination control dial on the other side, the LED model is quit bit wider than the dual-illuminated 4×32 ACOG models.

 

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My first try at 20 yards from using the Bindon Aiming Concept with both my eyes open. It works but not as fast as using a simple red-dot sight.

 

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Next, we switched to pistols with mounted Trijicon RMR mini reflex sight.

 

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Once pass 25 yards, the pistol mount RMR mini reflex sight start to make targeting faster.

 

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At 50 yards, the pistol iron sights block much of the target.

 

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The small dot from the RMR mini reflex sight was clearly an advantage comparing to the iron sight at 50 yards.

 

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At 75 yards, the iron sights completely covered the target and it was difficult to score a hit.

 

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The mini reflex sight make it easier to scoring hit at 75 yards, as long as the shooter’s skill is up to the task.

 

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Switched back to the rifle and moved to the 400 yard line. A number of targets were setup along the range starting at 5 yards and the farthest at 400 yards. The two smallest targets are about the size of a bowling ball and setup at 150 yards and 330 yards

 

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One of the main drawback of fiber optic is that sometime it collects too much light.  When I tried to use the ACOG with small horseshoe reticle, there was so much light bleed through that the horseshoe appeared as a big green dot.

 

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On command, the shooter would double tap the two closest paper targets by using the Bindon Aiming Concept.

 

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Next, the shooter would try to hit as many of the steel targets in standing.

 

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The shooter is allow to go to kneeing or prone to finish the rest of the targets. My best score was achieved by using the red chevron reticle on the USMC TA31 ACOG RCO model.

After the range event, the day was concluded at the private Irish pub on the training facility with a corned beef and cabbage dinner, and an open bar. The next morning, I stopped by The National Museum of the Marine Corps just few freeway exits away on my way back to the DC Airport.

 

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Writer and gear editor with articles published in major gun publications. A five year combat veteran of the US Marine Corps, Tim is also part of Point & Shoot Media Works, a producer of photography, video and web media for the firearms and shooting sport industry.


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  • guest

    I like trijicon’s products very much, especially the RMR and TR 24. I have tried the RMR on a handgun and was not impressed: it is easy to aim of course, bun unless your hands are very steady and mucscle memory is excellent you’ll be searching for that dot forever. Love or hate iron sights but they are much more fuss-free, and as far as aiming at long ranges goes I’ve shot with a can blocking the whole view and did not make a difference. All a question of practice.

    On a rifle however, as a backup, the RMR is truely in it’s element. Can pack 308 into an inch group @100m with the 7-moa one, easely.

    • Timothy G. Yan

      Using a mini red on a pistol require some training. The easiest way to setup the pistol is to install a new set of iron sight that cowitness with the dot. You use the iron to quickly find the dot.

      • guest

        That’s my main issue with it: it requires training.
        I slapped an Eotech on my IPSC revolver and it required zero training to get started with it, because the viewing angles are very generous and there is no disturbed sight picture as is always the case with collimating red dot sights because you are looking trough a tinted curved mostly transparent mirror.
        I think anything one can put on any gun must be a significant step forward, not a step back, and as I wrote for RMR the best application is a backup sight for a long gun – because the shooter is already viewing at it from a restricted viewing angle that is “on the money” without having to search for the dot.
        As far as this vs iron sights goes – yes, I can see how one can make careful, slow and precise shots with it but as far as aiming speed goes it holds no advantage over iron sights, plus that precise shots with iron sights from a handgun also take time to train/develop.

        And co-witnessing sigts… this is not a rifle. We are taling about the usual “leaf and corn” type sights then you end up blocking half the view of the RMR. And what do you gain by that? Absolutely nothing.

  • David

    I like Trijicon’s optics & night sights, I think I have … 6 ? I can’t remember all said and done, but the one real P.o.S. is the RMR (rm06). It didn’t even make it through zeroing before crapping out.

    Before anyone goes out and thinks they can put an RMR on a pistol – Don’t. it’s too fragile to handle the slide recoil. As someone said at a match, you’d better have a backup because it’s not a matter of if the RMR will fail, but when.

    • NDS

      Contact Trijicon, your RMR is clearly defective.

      I use a RMR07 on a Benelli M4 and a RMR08A on a Glock17…. the Glock has seen about 15k rounds since installation and has held zero since installation. It has been seriously abused and still works perfectly.

      • Timothy G. Yan

        We shot couple thousand rounds that day on three Glock in 9mm and three Sig in 40 S&W with a mix of dual-illumination and LED RMRs without any problem. Yeah, it seems like he got a lemon.

        • David

          I’m not the only one. I know of 4 others. The stories are hard to come by on the internet because – who wants to reveal they spent 4-6 hundred bucks on something that doesn’t work? Because you then have near zero chance to sell it.

          some of the online sites that sell them have a few reviewers who panned Trijicon for a non-functional or broken RMR, but they’re rare in all fairness.

          You have to bear what you read with a grain of salt. If you believe the internet, the Mac10 is the most reliable submachine gun ever made in the history of mankind. it’s fun, but statistically speaking it’s the most unreliable firearm I own.

          again, bearing in mind it’s the internet, your search engine can dig up a bunch of failures with the RMR using
          “trijicon rmr not holding zero”, “trijicon rmr blurry dot”. I’m sure there’s more because the first batch I came across was someone taping the battery to prevent the intermitting dot going out.

  • Jeff Smith

    Trijicon let you come shoot at their facility AND took you out drinking after? Where do I submit a resume to work for this site?

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      Right here Jeff—LOL!

  • The Hun

    If iron sights were good enough for Staff Sgt Bob Barnes they’re good enough for me.

    • SAR

      Hmmm… sorry but I couldn’t pass up this reply…

      Well starting fires with two sticks worked for cavemen so I guess you don’t use lighters or flint either?

      Please be real and understand that advancements in technology are most often a good thing. Otherwise we would not be using the majority of stuff we have today, cars, modern medicine, internet, etc. If we didn’t we would still be in loin cloths shouting ‘Grog make fire!’ as we bang two sticks together in the night.

      ;) just poking you with a stick (pun intended).

    • Hyok Kim

      Sgt. York?

  • Wes

    I love that museum. The Korea and Vietnam exhibits are the best.

    • Timothy G. Yan

      Maybe I should do a photo essay on the guns displayed in the Marine Corps Museum.

      • hkryan

        That would be awesome.

  • Bobby

    What pistol was used for the tests?

    • hkryan

      Looks like a Glock to me, can’t tell beyond that.

    • Timothy G. Yan

      9mm Glock and 40 S&W Sig compact models.

  • gunslinger

    is it just me or is the narrator of the BAC video the same guy that did the Retro-Encabulator video?

  • Hyok Kim

    “Once pass 25 yards, the pistol mount RMR mini reflex sight start to make targeting faster.”

    What about inside 25 yards?