Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • bbmg

    That is a beauty!

    According to the Russians, good enough for urban warfare:

    “If a target is closer than 100 meters, You don’t have to defeat a ballistic jacket. An exposed neck, face or head is just enough!”

    • iksnilol

      .22 can kill a man at 300 meters (but that is about as easy as shooting .308 at a 1000m).

      Realistcaly with regular practice you should be able to hit at 100-200 meter (depends on if the target is moving or stationary). Though it is important to be able to tell the distance. Now you could use a rangefinder or you could learn how a man or animal looks like at varying distances. Look for small cues, like at what distance can you see the fingers and at what distance are the arms indistinguishable from the rest of the body. This varies for different people so you might as well get a lifesize cutout of a man (those cardboard versions for instance), put it at different distances and see for yourself.

      No, I am not a “badass” sniper or anything. My friends who actually was one taught me this.

      • bbmg

        Why make educated guesses when you can buy a reliable and effective laser rangefinder for under $200 🙂

        A scope with an SVD style rangefinder mark on the reticle graduated for 50-350 metres would also be an extremely useful tool:×650/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/r/dragunov_reticule_1_1.jpg

        Also, the use of 22LR is a somewhat limiting – the projectile weights are small and the round-nosed flat-tailed bullet loses velocity quickly. The use of subsonic 223 ammunition (for example ) might extend that range from 200 to say 400 metres while retaining almost the same sound levels at the muzzle from a suppressed weapon.

        • iksnilol

          Reason for “educated guesses” is that a separate rangefinder can be more of a hassle (and more noisy taking it out) and it uses batteries (which in a “social” situation can be harder/expensive to find).

          You mean something like this:

          Only fault with it IMO is that it hasn’t a chevrons for each of those ranges (calibrated for 40 grains standard velocity).

          You can read more about the rifle here:

          • bbmg

            Clearly for a SHTF situation knowing how to use a basic 22LR with kentucky windage is a useful skill, but I was talking about urban sniping for a professional soldier as part of a well equipped force.

            I suppose a well suppressed bolt action in something like 300 Blackout firing subsonic ammunition would be a better choice, both in terms of ballistics and terminal effectiveness, maybe a bit louder than a 22 but it will let you shoot from further.

          • iksnilol

            .300 blackout or subsonic 7.62×39 would work well, especially from a bolt gun.

            Even for a professional soldier knowing some kentucky windage is useful since you never know if your equipment is going to fail (or run out of batteries).

  • Rob

    Thompson Machine has had one of these for a while. Their stuff is really good.

    • Cymond

      I was about to comment about the Thompson Machine integral takedown 10/22 too. I never realized it was newsworthy. For those interested, here’s a link. And yes, the monolithic baffle stack comes out for cleaning similar to the AWC.

  • wetcorps


    No irons though, so you have to carry a scope or a red dot too.

  • nomad101

    If you think a .22 rifle is not deadly……hold still a second. No, would not be my first choice, but I would not throw one away either.

    • gunslinger


  • No BUIS? :C

  • lbeacham

    Very few things are as relaxing as shooting a suppressed .22 at 50 to 100yds for accuracy in you back yard after a stressful day at work. 50 rounds and I’m a teddy bear the rest of the evening. The takedown model would feed the “sniper for hire” fantasy (if you have one).

  • Bill Liles

    You can use a scope to range find. Field Target shooters have been doing it for decades. You just need to calibrate the adjustable Objective to your turret.

  • hutch1200

    I have a suppressed back packer (3pc) .22. It was great being able to shoot supper when I hiked the Appalacian trail. Didn’t freak anybody (granola eaters) out, since they never saw, or heard, anything!
    Paperwork nightmare even in the mid eighties! That was after serving in the USAF, and that was considered a good thing. Back then people respected a Vet. Now a Vet would likely be turned down! And then hassled by the Alphabet groups.