Coming Soon: Adjustable Angle AR-15 “Tactical Angular Grip” From LMT & Hopkins Industries

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Your eyes do not deceive you. That grip is not broken. Sam Cadle and I were able to go hands-on with the prototype variable-angle “tactical angular grip” (TAG) coming soon from  LMT  Developed in partnership with Hopkins Industry, LLC chaired by an active Coast Guard shooter, the TAG adds additional ergonomics to your rifle. In prototype form, the grip had five settings: centered, mid, and high-offset angles (left and right, respectively).

The variable angle grip canted away from a right -hand shooter.

The variable angle grip canted away from a right -hand shooter.

Admittedly my first impression was skeptical, but as the inventor Charles Hopkins started to explain the concept the “mental light-bulb” turned on quickly. During my Marines MOUT training we were always instructed to avoid “chicken-winging”, which was difficult without extended “encouragement” from the instructors. With the M16A4’s long length-of-pull and when in body armor, one naturally wants to extend the elbow as it is more comfortable. By canting the grip to body, you can ergonomically force the shooter to adopt an “elbows-in” posture, reducing one’s profile as they enter CQB situations.

The interface is intuitive; easily manipulated with only the shooting hand. The TAG is adjusted by pressing in a countersunk button at the top rear, near the pivot point. Once pressed, the grip is adjustable across the full range until set by the user pressing the now extended button back flush under the middle finger.  During our informal manipulation, neither Sam or I could get the grip to accidentally change angles. When locked in place, the TAG felt solid.

The grip in its vertical position.

The grip in its vertical position.

The true vertical setting felt similar to MagPul’s K2 (i.e. more vertical), which I really like. During dynamic shooting, I typically use the two shortest stock settings on the buffer tube. When tucked in to the shoulder the TAG’s higher grip angle feels more natural in my hand. The example also had a built-in storage compartment. In addition, the TAG was mildly textured for increased grip.

LMT hopes to release the grip later this year. Pricing has not yet been set. The TAG is patented.

The grip showing the same cant, but from the magazine well angle.

The grip showing the same cant, but from the magazine well angle.

**Please note that the configuration or layout of the grip may change. It was only a prototype! We will work get get a sample for evaluation & review upon release.**

 


Nathan S.

TFB’s newest resident Jarhead, Nathan is currently working in the Defense industry in international sales. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, bull-pups, and high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries in the last three years working with US DoD & foreign MoDs. You will likely find him either in an international airport or on the local range in NE Indiana.

Nathan can be reached at [email protected]


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  • hkryan

    Seriously?! This isn’t a dry-humor TFB post is it?

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Nathan S “Writer, TFB”

      I am told my humor is dry, but no, this is a legit product. ;)

  • Tyrone Alfonso

    I know page views are the name of the game but give us a break. Save these gimmicky, cash grab ideas up and make one big “dumb ideas in the industry” post poking fun at them.

    Innovation is one thing but come on!!

    • sianmink

      If it’s dumb but it works, then it isn’t dumb.

  • Julio

    GRS/Grodas make a laminate rifle stock with a fixed canted grip. It’s not designed for tactical use, but it is ergonomic, and genuinely comfortable. I can see comparable benefits in this product.

  • noob

    hmm. would they make a matching foregrip that can cant in the opposite direction – it would make holding the rifle like holding motorcycle handle bars.

    although would that make the rifle muzzle jump sideways on recoil because your hands are not putting even pressure on both sides of the weapon?

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Nathan S “Writer, TFB”

      Yikes! Forgot to mention that he had a similar RIS-mounted prototype there too.

  • Duray

    Yes, but is it tactical? I’d hate to find myself needing to shoot someone and suddenly discover my grip wasn’t adequately tactical.

    • Risky

      That’s an easy fix, just make it dark earth. Instant tactical.

    • neoconfection

      You can operate operationally at all angles with this tactical grip.

  • gunslinger

    now i can shoot gangsta style much easier!

  • ColaBox

    The fact that even the videogame world has yet to get this whacky makes me question the sanity of the man behind it. Im all for new and creative things in the world of firearms, but this is like having a foldable steering wheel.

  • jjpaul

    This looks like the most useless grip I ever saw

  • Mike

    A solution in search of a problem, not to mention that you’ve now subtracted structural integrity. Seems tacti-dumb to me.

    • Ambig

      Mike, have you ever spent any time standing post with an 11lb weight slung over your neck, vest/plates/mags etc in front and having to stay on your grip at the ready at all times? If so, you would realize just how numb the fingers get and sore the wrist gets in an unorthodox position, next thing your standing post with your hands resting on the butt of your stock and looking like a “soup sandwich”, first guy Tango takes out. Don’t be “that guy”. Just my 2 cents.

      • Squirreltactical

        I think they’ve already solved that problem with the newer “gunfighter” style pistol grips, like BCM, B5 Systems, and Umbrella’s offerings, or Tango Down’s “flip-grip”. I think the pistol grip being canted to the side would only result in poor trigger control.

        • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Nathan S “Writer, TFB”

          Interesting. The flip-grip is similar, but only adjusts on the vertical axis. Would be cool to see a fusion of the two ideas?

          • noob

            a ball joint that can be locked? like on a camera tripod head?

            maybe target shooters might like the idea – I’ve seen some pretty crazy adjustable target stocks with more degrees of freedom than an octopus.

      • Mike

        No I haven’t. How does this solve the problem? Now you have an unnecessary point of weakness in the grip.

        • captn.hook

          mike the angled grip was to solve a problem of a fused wrist.multiple surgerys to a wrist has left it fixed in one position.i have an extensive back ground in prosthetics and phyiscal rehab and encounter disabled individuals who want to shoot. and you have to develope modificatons to the tools or firearms

          • captn.hook

            ps i have been an arm amputee for over 50 years and have a number of different modifications to many tools and firearms

      • SAR

        Hmmm… never had that problem nor do I recall anyone complaining about numbness or weak wrists.

        Perhaps its not a problem that effected the majority.

        Just saying

        • captn.hook

          it is not problem of weakness or numness it is a problem of no movement in the wrist. if you can’t rotate your fore arm you can not get a grip that will let you pull the trigger.i am speaking about arms and hands that have badly impaired function

          • captn.hook

            ps. you are correct the majority are not effected with such impairment. that is why it has become an interest of mine to pass along what i have learned over the years.

  • tincankilla

    To the guys at LMT, i’d suggest looking closely at CA regs. if you move the pivot point up higher and add a trigger extension, you’d have a great “featureless” grip for the California market. IE, something sticking out the side of the receiver that holds the web of the hand above the trigger opening. yes, it’s sort of absurd, but i think the ergos would work. for those of us living under hostile regulations, we need crazy ideas like this.

  • http://phelps.donotremove.net Phelps

    Muscle memory? Who needs it? After all, the guy who uses this has never put more than a couple of hundred rounds through the rifle anyways.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Nathan S “Writer, TFB”

      Precisely. It was so bad during my MOUT training that we only had 10 (yes, ten) sim-rounds to practice with after the whole evolution. Since I was not pure infantry, the only rounds we put through our rifles outside of a combat zone were on the qualifier range. Something like this could help.

      Plus, at worst-case, you leave it vertical just like any other grip.

  • SAR

    Seriously? Just when you thought you saw it all (but I know more will come). I spent 20+ years in Army; did contract firearms instructing for the military and I’m in law enforcement. With that said the “chicken-winging” was overcome by… not doing it. Too simple for you? Then let me break it down for you.

    1. Assume a stable firing position with a good check to stock weld

    2. Move firing arm elbow to your ribs

    *NOTE: for those with low ASVAB scores &/or who could not get their name right on the test form, (Hint, Hint) do not try to put your firing arm elbow on your support side ribs.

    Done!

    The great thing about this zero cost technique is that in the generally upright position gravity assists the shooter in this endeavor even if your in Australia! And it did not cost the shooter any money or additional training to overcome the muscle memory (thousands of repetitions) they have already acquired from shooting normally. So for my 2 cents, someone invented a device THEN came up with a problem for it to fix.

    Now with the jokes aside I do see a small possible benefit from this, but I still don’t see the need for more moving parts on a gun but that is just me…

    The cant of the grip positions the trigger finger in a way that it minimizes the slapping and pulling the trigger & thus putting the bullet off target; the grip places the slap or pull error of the trigger finger to a more up and down along the length of the target, than side to side (width) in normal slap & pull errors. So is this worth the cost and retraining?

    I don’t think so. The slap and pull, along with other shooting fundamental errors can be overcome with proper training. It costs nothing but time and attention to detail.

    So for me, I will have to pass on this ‘ground breaking’ device for now. I’m kinda surprised anyone would try to do a serious blog post about this but it happens (tho I do see people doing a post to see who says what).

    Anyway I have to go – gotta work on a new remote trigger system thats wired to your a$$ so when your really in a pickle the crunching of your butt checks activates the trigger and fires the gun.

    ;)