Walther PPQ M2

The new Walther PPQ M2

The new Walther PPQ M2

Walther Arms introduced the PPQ M2 pistol at SHOT Show this year.  This pistol is  striker-fired with a polymer frame that Walther has directed at keeping pace with similar competitor offerings.  The PPQ M2 has similarities to the recent Walther P99 and PPX, but there are several key differences that make this pistol stand on its own.  Where the P99 and PPX were marketed more towards military or law enforcement duty pistols, the PPQ M2 is being targeted towards the self-defense market.

The standard-sized PPQ M2 profile.

The standard-sized PPQ M2 profile.

One of the first features to jump out is the new “quick-defense trigger”.  Where prior Walther pistols have had a single trigger, the PPQ M2 will have a trigger bar similar to a Glock, that will incorporate one of the drop safeties.  In short, without the trigger bar being depressed, the trigger cannot engage.

The PPQ M2 trigger has a trigger bar drop safety.

The PPQ M2 trigger has a trigger bar drop safety.

Trigger pull is set at 5.6 pounds with 0.4 inches of travel.  The PPQ M2 will have a trigger reset of only 0.1 inch allowing for incredibly quick follow-up shots.  The quick-defense trigger is surrounded by a slightly elongated trigger guard that is squared off at the front with checkered texturing.

Another feature is the addition of interchangeable backstraps.  Designed to fit a diversity of shooters grips, the PPQ M2 will have small, medium, and large backstraps.  The inserts are not add-ons, but the actual backstrap of the pistol.  The grip also swells and tapers with a natural shape the shooter’s hand assumes in gripping.  The front strap has muted finger grooves that should provide grip assistance while not interfering with different hand sizes.

The PPQ M2 grip backstrap are interchangeable with small, medium, and large options.

The PPQ M2 grip backstrap are interchangeable with small, medium, and large options.

Holding the PPQ M2 on the Show floor, I was very impressed with the ergonomics and comfort of the grip.  The rubberized and uniquely cross-directional textured grip provided a sure hold, and the grip angles brought my hand into a naturally strong position at the top of the grip.  The PPQ M2 rates very high on the comfortable pistol grips I’ve tested.

Author holding the PPQ M2 off-hand.  Note the natural high hand placement and full grip from the ergonomic design.

Author holding the PPQ M2 off-hand. Note the natural high hand placement and full grip from the ergonomic design.

The PPQ M2 is designed for right and left-handed shooters, having ambidextrous magazine release buttons and slide lock levers.  Both the magazine release button and slide stop lever are slightly enlarged, yet remain close to the frame.  This design makes manipulation easier and more sure for the shooter, while eliminating concerns for snagging.  The frame has a 3-position 1913 Picatinny rail in front of the trigger guard for the addition of lights or lasers.

The Picatinny rail on the PPQ M2 allows for light or laser options.

The Picatinny rail on the PPQ M2 allows for light or laser options.

There are distinct serrations on the front and rear of the slide for easy gripping during slide manipulation.  The front serrations have the Walther symbol engraved inside.  Walther states the PPQ M2 slide and barrel are “Tenifer” coated for durability and corrosion protection.  The slide is topped with low profile 3-dot polymer sights, with the rear sight screw adjustable for windage.

The left front slide serration has the Walther emblem engraved inside.

The left front slide serration has the Walther emblem engraved inside.

The dual front and rear slide serrations.

The dual front and rear slide serrations.

The top front of the slide also has three vents machined out.  Although a nice visual feature, there may also be some benefit from additional heat dissipation.

The machined vents on the PPQ M2 provide a nice visual appearance and some heat dissipation.

The machined vents on the PPQ M2 provide a nice visual appearance and some heat dissipation.

Here are the Walther PPQ M2 features:

  • Overall Length – 7.1 inches (9mm), 7.2 inches (.40 S&W)
  • Barrel Length – 5 inches
  • Caliber – 9mm and .40 S&W
  • Finish – Matte black
  • Trigger Pull – 5.6 pounds
  • Capacity – 15 rounds (9mm), 11 rounds (.40 S&W)
  • Height – 5.3 inches
  • Width – 1.3 inches
  • Weight (with empty magazine) – 1.5 pounds (9mm), 1.6 pounds (.40 S&W).

The PPQ M2 will also have mid-size offerings, and a threaded barrel version in 9mm called the “Navy SD”.  The mid-size 9mm has a 4-inch barrel, while the .40 S&W has a 4.1-inch barrel, though Walther does not list a weight drop.  Overall length will be an inch shorter than standard sizes.  The “Navy SD” model has a 4.6” barrel with an optional 17-round magazine.

The business end of the Walther PPQ M2.

The business end of the Walther PPQ M2.

Walther Arms, the American-based arm of Carl Walther GmbH Sportwaffen, based out of Ft. Smith, Arkansas, will now handle all aspects of marketing, sales, distribution, and service for North America.  This began last year with the separation of American distribution from Smith & Wesson.  Production will continue in Germany for the time being, but with a very probable production capability expanding at their American facilities in the near future.

If some production does move to the U.S. Walther will likely have to change the  “Tenifer” coating like Glock did when they made a similar move.  The Tenifer process produces cyanide as a by-product, something the U.S. EPA resists.  There are several similar hardening and protective coating processes to Ferritic Nitrocarburizing that do not involve the more toxic by-products, yet still produce the desired hardness and corrosion protection.

The Walther PPQ M2 has much to offer and could be a pistol that reintroduces the Walther name into the mainstream dialogue of handguns.

 



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  • kevin kelly

    I’ve always wanted a walther but they seem kinda big for CC. I also think they should be about $100 cheaper.

    • kevin kelly

      Not many 9mm compact models. I know they have the pps but what about a compact model that holds 12-15 rds?

      • Vhyrus

        If you can find one, they make a P99c that is roughly the size of a Glock 26. I have been trying to find one at a decent price for months but they are very hard to come by.

        http://www.waltherarms.com/products/handguns/p99

        • JumpIf NotZero

          I started with a P99c. It would take P99 mags which was nice, but only with an adapter. I got sick of the limited grip and nearly pinching my palm on ever mag change.

          Went to a P99 fullsize. Nice, but wasn’t crazy about the texture and light rail.

          Added a PPS. Nice but wasn’t crazy about the trigger and finger groove built into the grip. As well as the notch in the magazine that would try and pinch under fast loads.

          Went to PPQ (M1, First Edition) loved it. But realized I didn’t like the mag release as it would comprise my grip. I had to use my middle finger meaning during mags loads I had a crappy grip on the gun.

          Ended up with PPQ M2s and sold the PPS for a Shield. I’m finally happy with that setup. Take your own path, but be mindful what others have found.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      IMO, only the super compacts (shield and etc) work for me for cc. But the interesting thing about the PPQ M1/M2, is that they are roughly the size of Glock19s. Only the grip is fractionally longer.

      This gun you seeing (M2 5″) is the equivalent of a Glock17 with a glock19 sized grip reduction on it. A pretty popular mod for people that get heavy into Glocks. Except that this is a factory gun with an excellent trigger and ergos.

      The PPQ M2 is every bit as good as the Glock19 or M&P for carry. Something about the photos always makes it look larger than it is.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      Try the PPS

  • Jack Morris

    As a very small handed shooter, I look forward to trying this model out.
    Its got a very strange look to it, though. I wont be able to tell if I love it or hate it until I see one in person.

  • JumpIf NotZero

    “humor” post?

    The PPQ M2 was at SHOT last year. It does not have a rubberized grip. Those cuts in the slide are for reciprocating weight reduction. The Navy SD model has been available for some time now.

    • FourString

      Regardless, colour me interested in that longslide version. I wonder how that tames the recoil.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        The “high” recoil of the PPQ is sort of a myth. It IS snappier than a glock19 or M&P – but – it comes back on target faster for me. It has a slightly higher slide velocity compared to the glock, that does mean a faster recoil and counter recoil impulse, but I consider it snap and not recoil.

        Interestingly enough… All the cool guns from Salient, ATIe, etc are all hacking the hell out of the slides. Reducing sliding mass, increasing slide velocity. I consider the PPQ to already come faster than those other stocks guns. Compare a tuned gun to a factory PPQ, they’re all snappy.

        I suspect the 5″ to be softer shooting though. Still fast just softer due to the weight and increase in the barrel lengh. Although I can’t tell a difference between my 4″ and 4.5″ guns, not sure if another .5″ would help or not. I’m most interested to see if Walther ever tweaks their recoil spring.

        For what it’s worth, DO NOT consider aftermarket recoil springs in the PPQ, I’ve tried a couple and will not run them.

        • FourString

          Cool beans. Thanks for the firsthand info. I do want a PPQ eventually. I have heard nothing but good things about the ergonomics, trigger, and accuracy. However, I’d go the PPQ M1 route. I prefer the ambidextrous paddle, since I’m a USP guy.

        • Don

          BT giude stainless rods use factory springs and work fine just a plug for a fine product

    • vereceleritas

      The M2 magazine release isn’t ambidextrous either. It’s reversible but can only be accessed from one side. The paddle style release on the M1 is ambidextrous. I normally don’t nit-pick articles but there are indeed a lot of errors in this one.

      All that aside, I love my PPQ M1. The trigger really is as good as everyone says and coming from HK’s I prefer paddle style magazine releases. I’m not a fan of the M2 especially since it requires a different magazine than the PPQ M1/P99 but I think it was necessary to broaden the pistol’s appeal to the American market. I’d be interested in a long slide M1 if they decide to import it.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        It was dumb that M1 and M2 mags are incompatible. Agreed fully. I would have at least liked to see the M1 become the M1.5 and have it take M2 mags, but that might be even worse considering the number of M1 mags out there.

        On the ambi, I guess I don’t care as I can count on zero fingers the number of times I’ve needed or wanted that feature vs using my weak hand index or middle finger to hit the release on the “wrong” side. So I’m not sure, ambi-swappable is probably correct.

        Fwiw, I noticed a huge difference in HK mag release vs Walther. With HK I could use my index finger or even thumb. With Walther I was limited to only middle finger which I became uncomfortable with.

      • Aaron E

        You are correct – the magazine release button is “reversible” for primary access by either a right-handed OR left-handed shooter.

        However, the Walther literature (p.8 of the floor catalogue) specifically stated “Ambidextrous Magazine Release Button”. It then explains the left, or right option, in the finer print. When I was posting the specifications I went straight down the features list they printed.

        Sorry, I didn’t catch the “mis”-identified feature, and thank you for pointing that out.

        Walther also has the feature misleadingly labeled on their website:

        http://www.waltherarms.com/products/handguns/ppq-m2/#.Uuf2wRZ6iu4

        Thanks again.

    • Aaron E

      Not intended to be “humor”, I posted what I learned at the Walther booth, and observed in their literature. I did not make the Walther booth last year, so if this pistol has already been on the market I apologize. Apparently “new” can have a variety of meanings to the manufacturers.

      A nicely designed and contoured pistol all the same, though I have not fired one to know of its shooting abilities.

  • Lance

    Walther really are not worth a dime go with a good Glock Beretta or Smith and Wesson if you want a good 9mm.

    • Tyler Hansen

      Have you ever shot one? The PPQ has the best out of the box trigger of any striker fired gun, is very accurate, and mine has been 100% reliable. I sold my m&p 9 and Glock 19 after getting the PPQ. Walther makes fine guns.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        Don’t bother, typical Lance post. I’m 99% certain he’s never shot a gun at all.

        • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

          Hum—

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Hum all you like but there are YEARS of that specific kind of trolling as example. Everyone that’s read a more than 3 posts on this site has seen the always contentious, opinionated and almost never accurate posts. It’s not even consistant, it toggles from CAA handguards are better than Noveske, to FN makes the world’s best rifle with the SCAR, to Diemaco is far better than Colt, to the AK is the end all be all rifle.

            I’d LOVE to meet him actually… I think it would be fascinating.

    • Jeremy Star

      I’ve had a PPS in .40 for years now. I’ve never had one single issue with it, and it is more accurate than other pistols I have had with longer barrels. Your generalization makes it sound like you have no idea what you are talking about, especially considering you didn’t bother to back up your claims with even anecdotal evidence.

    • Vhyrus

      My P99 will shoot rings around just about anything made with a polymer grip.

    • sdelcegno

      Im a big glock fan. Glock is my go to gun. With that said. The PPQ is one of the best shooting handguns you can buy period. Best factory trigger on the market.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      Lance man Walther makes an excellent 9mm and then so do the brands you listed.
      I love my PPS!

  • Ryan

    The walther PPQ M2 was not introduced this year. It have had some modifications such as the cuts on the tops of the slide which appear to be different but other than that the pistol has been around since it was introduced last year. And prior to that, the original PPQ has been around for a few years but after walther separated from smith and wesson the made the change to the mag release and dubbed it the M2.

  • Geoff a well known Skeptic

    Walthers are now made to pot metal airgun standards by Umarex. I have a P22. When the front sight popped off I called S&W support. When I said P22 they offered me a box before they heard the problem. The Umarex pistols are starting to look more and more like Hi-points. The had a German style magazine release, they dropped that to save a few Euros and grossly over price the latest offerings. I’ll stick with S&W. Geoff Who is not fond of ultra-light triggers without safety levers.

    • sdelcegno

      Many 22 semi autos are pot metal for slides. The PPQ series is one of the best pistols out there. With the best factory trigger you can get from any brand.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      The PPQ is not made by Umarex. It’s made and proofed in the Walther plant in Germany.

      • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

        That’s very true

      • Cymond

        On the other hand, “In 1993 the Walther Arms firm was acquired by Umarex of Arnsberg, who continued to manufacture under the Walther name in Ulm and Arnsberg.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umarex
        Depending on how you look at it, Umarex arguably makes all Walther guns, not just the P22.

    • FourString

      I would not generalise all of Walther’s offerings from a rimfire Umarex produced copy. You would have to ding H&K and Colt for that too, if going with that mindset, would would be pretty amusing and just as untrue.

  • nester7929

    I like Walthers, but I wish they would have kept the HK style mag release. I seem to be in the minority though, so it’s understandable why they’d switch it.

    • J.T.

      I agree. The PPQ was on the list of guns I wanted until they changed the mag release.

      • http://rumblestripradio.com rumblestrip

        Walther are going to be selling the PPQ M1 which has the old style mag release.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      I have almost 10k down 4 Walther PPQs. Two M1s, two M2s.

      What I’ve come down to is this…. M2 is far superior for me.

      If it’s at all possible to run the trigger guard mag release (paddle) with your index finger then go for it. But for me, I had to use my middle finger, leaving me in a position where I was effectively gripping the gun during reloads with ONLY my palm, my ring and pinky fingers. I decided this was unacceptable for a variety of reasons. The obvious of course, as well as I was reshuffling my grip during and after each reload.

      M2 is far superior for me. I have a better grip on the gun. I have little to no reorganization of my grip during reloads. I became faster with stress reloads. I have commonality with the other platforms I own. I feel I can let someone new or less framiliar with that specific gun use it for recreation or defense. And I’m pleased with the protrusion and application force Walther wound up with on the release itself, no aftermarket button needed, it’s perfect.

      So everytime I see someone get online and talk about how they want an M1/paddle release, I think nearly all of those people really just don’t actually know what they “want”. But like I said, if you can run that release with your trigger finger, it’s a very nice option. I could not.

  • JT

    This thing looks like some sort of 21st century P38 without the fixed barrel. It’s got a weird beuty to it

  • Blake

    Hickok45 likes the PPQ quite a lot. This vid certainly made me want to try one out at the range…

  • MZupcak

    I love the ergonomics of the P99, but this looks like it might be even better with the rougher texture. Gotta love the big fat slide release, too.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      P99 had actual issues for me. The “dots” on the P99 looked like they would be effective, but really just point-loaded on your skin. The finger groves on the P99 lined up for me, but not girls so it wouldn’t fit them as well.

      The PPQ is an improvement over the P99 in every way, unless you must for some reason have a SA/DA

  • Sulaco

    Kinda large for the CWP market an’t it? Long and tall.
    Maybe marketed to the self-defense market that carries pistols in their trucks or on
    the bed side table, but on body carry? Don’t think so….

    • JumpIf NotZero

      It’s a Glock 17 sized slide and a Glock19 sized grip. Last I checked, Glock grip reductions were a popular mod for carry.

    • Dan Atwater

      The standard PPQ is about the same size as a Glock 19. I don’t know what would make you think it’s too large to carry.

      • mig1nc

        Indeed, the standard PPQ is about the same size as a Glock19 and even easier to carry concealed thanks to its curved profile. The one pictured here is the 5″ version, not the 4″ version which I carry daily. PS: The 5″ was introduced at Shot last year, but it took them nearly a year to bring them to market.

  • invisible empire

    Why not just buy yourself a Canik 55 TP-9 and save yourself at least $400 instead of paying for the name?

    • sharp99

      The TP-9 is a P99AS clone. Same 3 trigger modes. Rack it, it’s in AS (long, light SA pull). At the halfway point of the AS pull, a tactile “click” will set the trigger to SA mode; a short, light pull with a great reset (this mode is the same trigger as the PPQ). Hit the decocker and the gun goes to a 10 lb. DA for safe carry. Nudge the slide back a few millimeters and you’re back to AS mode. Ingenius!
      The TP-9 has a chrome barrel and much larger grip than the P99AS, although the intricacies of the AS trigger system are not perfected in the Canik. Still, if you run a few hundred rounds through it, the TP-9 will smooth out some. It is a nice package.
      But compared to the PPQ? Not even close. I guarantee you, if you shoot a PPQ, you will buy a PPQ. It’s that good. Plus, a TP-9 costs about $320, sometimes less, a PPQ can be had for $550 – $600. No brainer.

  • JoKeR

    New in that I still can’t get my hands on a M2 Navy SD.

  • Louis Bethel

    And the openings also allow dirt and debris to get in….
    Looks more like a bedside table pistol since it is so large.

  • Leigh Rich

    Looks like a S&W to me?