KRISS Private Shoot: A Look At What’s New

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The good people at KRISS were kind enough to extend an invitation to me to a private shoot they were hosting here at a range they rented out to demo their new products for 2014. I also managed to swindle an invite for my friend Chris who has helped me out with numerous articles (who has been so taken with KRISS products that he has signed up to become a dealer). If you recall, we teamed up with them for a three part series on the Vector that was a lot of fun for all parties involved.

The booth they had at SHOT was impressive and showcased some new and exciting products:

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I also got to reconnect with Mike, who was present for out three part series. Here he is showing me the new stock adapter for the Vector that will allow any and all AR15 stocks to be used on the Vector. This one is equipped with a Magpul UBR, which was very cool:

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Also at the booth was the full Sphinx lineup, including two new Defiance suppressors with built in nielson devices:

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The sub-compact has been approved and is ready for sale, but the full size gun is still waiting on approval from the Firearms Technology Branch of the ATF.

Anyways, KRISS had a private car waiting to take us to “Machine Gun Vegas”, a range they had rented for the week. Several products were on display, and the range staff consisted of beautiful, yet knowledgeable females:

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On the range they had plenty of ammo for us:

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An employee was giving us a quick rundown of the new stock adapter and a few other things (Chris had never shot a Vector):

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Even though he had never shot a Vector, Chris turned the target into Swiss cheese, as did I:

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I took a quick video of me shooting as well, but unfortunately my speech got interrupted by gunfire:

 

After the Vector I was eager to try the Sphinx sub-compact and full size (I have a thing for full size pistols as I use to shoot IDPA quite a bit):

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We got a quick rundown:

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And got right to it. Let me tell you, these suckers are accurate!

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We were also surprised when the new suppressors were on the range, as well as plenty of sub-sonic ammunition:

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I have shot a lot of suppressed pistols in my day, but the Sphinx with its internal frame rails and tight fitment make it a joy to shoot. Many pistols blow plenty of burnt powder in your face when you throw a can on, but the advertised “Swiss Precision” must come into play here, as my face did not get peppered with debris. The one complaint I have is that there did not seem to be raised sights available to compensate for the suppressor interrupting the sight plane but this is easily remedied.

All in all I am excited about the new Sphinx pistols and I know when the full size hits the streets, I will be a few dollars poorer!

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Alex C.

Alex is a Senior Writer for The Firearm Blog who was born and raised in Texas with years of experience in hunting, shooting competitions, and general collecting. A degree in History from Baylor University has contributed to his love of both early and modern firearms technology, but Alex is most fond of machine guns and other NFA toys.
You can reach Alex at alex.capps@thefirearmblog.com.


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  • JumpIf NotZero

    The main reasons I’ll never ever consider the KRISS SBR…

    4. The company has for 4 years or so said a 9mm or 40mm conversion was coming. It’s still not.
    3. Issues ejecting live rounds, inexcusable
    2. Cost and inexplicable use in semi auto

    1. The user can not simply take the carbine version, get a tax stamp and cut the barrel down. No, the whole gun needs to go to KRISS so they can retime the action and whatever. I’ve been here before, any gun that requires service to do something so trivial as to shorten the barrel, something apparently I wouldn’t be able to do, can only be on the ragged edge of working anyhow. That’s great, it works as an SBR now… Now add a silencer and the pressure spikes. Nope, I’ve been there and done that. If I can’t get it running with tools and knowledge available to me, it’s just a range toy.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Alex C.

      Well, you have your mind made up about the Vector and that is cool (I love capitalism), but I would highly suggest you check out the Sphinx if your local range gets a few for rent. They are really nice!

      • JumpIf NotZero

        Now the pistol I am interested in. I’m not sure what they will offer OVER my other handguns, Glocks, PPQs, but I’m definitely willing to give them a look. But if I hear that their threaded version jams up with XYZ booster/silencer then I won’t give them a second look. I’ve absolutely had it with guns that run finicky.

        • Edward Franklin

          The pistols should be fairly reliable, the Sphinx is a development of the CZ75 so it certainly has a good pedigree. Although the really tight tolerances could cause them to be a bit picky about ammo. Be interesting to see how far the Sphinx and the CZ75 have actually diverged over the years or if they’re still obvious siblings.

          • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

            I had an SDP for testing and review. It’s very reliable with any ammunition I ran through it. It’s also a very accurate pistol. Yes it is based partly on the CZ75.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      Have you shot one? That’s a lot of negatives. I reviewed a Vector back a year ago and had zero malfunctions over a couple of months of shooting.

      I can tell you having actually used a semi-auto and a full auto there are no problems with function.

      http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/12/20/kriss-vector-reveiw/

      The three part series TFB did

      http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/20/texas-pd-shootout-kriss-vector-vs-hk-ump/

  • ColaBox

    That Vector goes perfectly with that UBR.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      That it does. It felt very good as well.

  • Tim U

    I’d grab a Vector in .40 S&W if they ever put it out. There’s enough 9mm choices out there I don’t care if they run with it or not, but the .40 PCC market is pretty slim.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      I don’t see anything other than a 45acp being made anytime in the near future.

      • Mazryonh

        They really should make other caliber versions for the 16-inch barrelled versions. As sites like “Ballistics by the Inch” show, longer barrels for all but the lightest .45 ACP rounds actually slow them down instead of speeding them up, making them more of a hindrance than a help. I have to wonder if the sound suppressor had a similar velocity-reducing effect on the rounds fired from the “professional” version.

        Now, if they put out a version in .45 Super, or 10mm Auto, or .460 Rowland, then we’d really be cooking.

  • GUNxSPECTRE

    Wake me up if they ever decide to chamber their SMG in rifle cartridges.
    Why not .300 AAC Blackout since that was a thing a little while ago.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      It’s not designed for rifle rounds

  • guest

    That mag dump was FAST. I wonder what exactly does the manufacturer see as a practical application for this gun. Usually “fast guns” come with large mags (PPSH, Kashtan, Thompson). I can’t really imagine how that would work with Kriss if one trigger pull means one mag.

    • Mazryonh

      Kind of makes those long mag dumps we saw in the 2012 Total Recall film less-than-realistic, doesn’t it? I wonder if the armourers used for the film put in fire-rate-reducing devices to allow for longer firing scenes.

      A drum mag (or a horizontal pan mag, for someone who wants to keep overall size down) could work as well for extending firing time, but drum magazines for pistol caliber rounds aren’t commonly used.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      It has a high cyclic rate but on the range I used full auto and burst mode. I was able to get 6 pulls of the trigger before the mag was empty.
      I really preferred the burst mode. Very very controllable and of course the mag last longer. In burst I was able to put the rounds within 4 inches at just over 15 yards.