Gun Concealment Magnets

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Battenfield Technologies introduced a magnet system to keep a self defense firearm handy.  The gun concealment magnet mounts to the underside of a desk, wall or other surface with screws.  A pistol or other firearm can then be “attached” to the magnet and kept handy should it be needed.

No pricing on the magnet kits has been announced.  Battenfield states that one magnet kit will secure a handgun, while two kits should be used for a rifle or shotgun.



Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • Doc Red

    Is it possible for a steel firing pin to be manipulated inadvertently by the magnetic force? I’m sure with such a low level magnet it wouldn’t be able to move with enough force to strike the primer but I’m curious.

    • Patrick Mingle

      The only scenario I see that happening is if you rip the weapon from the magnet quickly. However, who really even knows how magnets work? 😛

      • nadnerbus

        f-ing magic, that’s how.

        • Markm

          This happened to a cop going for an MRI as I remember…

          • ThomasD

            The magnetism of an MRI is a tad bit stronger. As in strong enough to induce an electrical current (which may then have discharged the round.) or rip the firearm from out of your holster/grasp.

      • DiverEngrSL17K

        I think that would assume the use of ultra-powerful magnets ( industrial electro-magnets or special rare-earth magnets ) totally unsuited to this sort of application. The only exception to this scenario where I can visualize this happening is if the firearm in question is already dangerously defective to begin with, or is of a design that easily allows accidental discharge to occur at the slightest provocation.

    • DiverEngrSL17K

      I think your conclusion is quite correct.

    • ThomasD

      I think it doubtful.

      One, should the pin even move, for the reason you mention.

      But also because the pin is unlikely to move at all – it and the bolt/receiver/slide it resides within both being magnetized and therefore unlikely to move independently. At least until leaving the permanent magnetic field. At which point everything is back to business as usual.

      It would also need to involve a firearm without an internal pin block safety, like those found in most modern semi-auto pistols.

  • Jeff Zerba

    This is already on the market with BAM Holsters on Facebook.

  • Cymond

    There are similar products already on the market, so I guess it works. However, I’ve been skeptical because I don’t want to magnetize my guns.

  • Alex Nicolin

    Wouldn’t some of the steel (which is a ferrous alloy) components in the gun become magnetized in time? Can this impede reliable functioning of the gun?

    • noob

      hmm. we should test this. do you have one of those magnets that magnetizes screwdrivers and a handgun that you don’t like? disassemble clean magnetize it and assemble and then pull the trigger with a string!

      I am totally not doing this experiment.

    • Alex Nicolin

      I’m asking because, being a bit of a gun nut and a tinkerer, I thought of replacing some of the springs with magnets in guns.

      • MrSatyre

        Then you would have a magnetic rail gun! Awesome!

        • Alex Nicolin

          Nope, I was thinking about the buffer or return spring, as well as some retention mechanisms.

          • BryanS

            Most magnets what would be good for this sort of thing (rare earth) have too small of an effective field to be effective in the size they would be used in.

            Also, magnetic forces tend to fall off very sharply as distance increases.

            Here is a handy calculator: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/fieldcalculator.asp

          • jake

            I detect bull. I am a tinkerer my self. making rail guns out of my butt.

    • It would be a very small amount with a magnet of this size. I wouldn’t think it would be powerful enough to have any bearing on function.
      Doing a bit of research indicates it would have to be a very powerful magnet over a long period of time to transfer that much.

      • ThomasD

        Agreed, I’ve been using magnetic tool holders around the shop for years and, if at all, the effect is miniscule. Sometimes a tool will get magnetized just enough to hold some steel wool dust, but never even enough to hold steel drill shavings.

    • Just guessing

      I think any small amount of magnetism would be lost upon shooting of the firearm much in the same way that magnetism is lost through shock. Just a guess though.

  • xhln

    Why not just use an old leather belt, scissors and some duct tape?

    • noob

      or some fixtures like they have on road cases for musical instruments – they attach wide straps to surfaces with screws and you can put a holster on them before screwing them on.

      Not quite as cool as magnets though. I bet we see this magenet rig in a movie, where proper functioning of the gun can be a trick of editing.

  • noob

    hmm. assuming the magnetization doesn’t hurt a glock, could you put the magnet on the inside of your shirt, a glock on the outside and then throw a jacket over the whole thing?

    • Dr.kilemquik

      Be mindful of your pacemaker.

    • ThomasD

      Don’t see why not. A couple decent size neodymium disks should more than do the trick. You can buy some on Amazon and such that are each rated at a static 25 pounds.

      The only problem is what happens to the magnets when you ‘draw’ the weapon? If not otherwise secured they drop to your waistband, or out the bottom of your un-tucked shirt.

      Maybe sew them into an elastic band that you could position at chest/waist level?

    • Fromthesidelines3

      Magnets aren’t very “jiggle” resistant. It would be very easy for the gun to slide off the magnet.

      Try this experiment at home. Place two magnets together and try pulling them directly apart. Then place them back together and pull them apart by sliding them sideways from each other, ie along the face of the magnets instead of away from the face of the magnets. Pulling them sideways should be far easier than pulling them apart.

      • noob

        I own a 2kg rated Jacket Bracket.

        http://www.jacketbracket.com.au

        the rare earth magnets hold my radio pretty well to my jacket without jiggle, the pinch force is sufficient to crush the fabric and prevent the radio from sliding around.

        you can slide it if you really grab the jacket and pull with the other hand.

  • hami

    F-ing magnets, how do they work?

  • Clint Notestine

    just dont have it near anything electronic like a computer

    • BryanS

      Your computer has a few very powerful magnets sitting in the hard drive. Unless you got a crane magnet packed away in your work van, dont worry about it.

      • Fromthesidelines3

        I disagree, you should definitely worry about it.

        The way a hard drive works is via magnetizing/de-magnetizing the spinning discs within them with extreme precision using the powerful magnets you mention.

        Additional magnets, especially powerful ones such as neodymium which this product is undoubtedly made of, can erase/corrupt the data on a hard drive; especially with prolonged exposure. The risk is variable depending on the hard drive, the age of the data on it, the location of the additional magnet, the strength of the additional magnets etc. but it is real enough that putting neodymium magnets on or near your computer is a very bad idea.

        • BryanS

          Those magnets are not powerful enough to damage a hard drive. For that you need a purpose built machine.. like this.

          http://www.garner-products.com/deg4000.htm

          Even the manufacturer states that older degauss machines cannot erase newer drives. Because of data density, the magnetic charge needed to effect the platters is higher, and the distance is smaller (as in microns). Plus, the normal shielding of the case and drive would block even more. Magnetism decreases with distance.. greatly. If it didnt, all of a hospital would slowly move towards the CAT scan room.

          This is a myth that needs to die.

  • BryanS

    Wow guys…

    First, if you want to de-magnetize your gun. Shoot it. Heat and impact both will harm a magnetized field on something that picked it up from just sitting on a magnet.

    Secontd, how could this impact the firing pin? Im mean, unless you store your guns on a MRI machine muzzle first.

    3rly, if this costs more than the magnet tool holders you can pick up at any hardware store, you may be paying too much. Have a few places this sort of setup has held fine for years.

  • MrSatyre

    I have a friend who uses similar gadgets throughout his house to place his guns in easy reach inside closets over doorframes, and has never had any problems over several years of using them with the operation of his carbines and handguns.

  • DiverEngrSL17K

    Non-marring coated low-power magnets for applications of this sort have been around for awhile. Firearms accessory suppliers such as Cheaper Than Dirt have had them in their catalogs for years. While some contributors have correctly expressed varying safety concerns regarding magnetization effects on the firearm, etc., the actual intensity and level of magnetization is negligible and should have no real effect on the mechanical function of any firearm. In the highly unlikely event that this actually occurs, it would probably mean that you either have a grossly deficient firearm that would be dangerous under any circumstances ( magnets or no magnets ) ; that really powerful magnets far beyond what is reasonable are being used ( as in industrial electro-magnets or excessively-powerful special rare-earth permanent magnets ) ; or a combination of both.

    For this kind of quick-access application, the magnets are of necessity fairly weak, with just enough power to securely bear the weight of the firearm without impeding quick release — hardly the sort of magnetic field that would cause an accidental discharge.

  • John
    • ThomasD

      Thanks for the linked article. But I disagree with their assessment. Critically, this part

      The gun likely discharged as a result of the effect of the magnetic
      field on the firing pin block. The firing pin block was probably drawn
      into its uppermost position by force of the magnetic field. The firing
      pin block has to overcome only light pressure from a relatively small
      spring to release the firing pin. The pistol was likely drawn into the
      magnetic field so that the muzzle struck the magnet’s bore first. With
      the firing pin allowed to move freely in its channel, the force of the
      impact on the muzzle end was sufficient to cause the firing pin to
      overcome its spring pressure and move forward to strike the primer of
      the chambered round.

      Unless the firing pin was aftermarket titanium by the time the muzzle contacted the MRI the pin was already strongly magnetized – like the rest of the slide.

      Rremember, it was this magnetic force that pulled the WHOLE firearm towards the MRI in the first place.

      So thh pin would be unlikely to move independent of the slide.

      Also, what the authors describe is no different than the pistol being dropped onto it’s muzzle from a decent height – exactly the sort of situation the internal safeties were designed to protect against.

      I stand by my belief that this sort of discharge was due to electrical current and/or related heat causing the round to cook off.

      • DaveP.

        “Also, what the authors describe is no different than the pistol being dropped onto it’s muzzle from a decent height – exactly the sort of situation the internal safeties were designed to protect against.”
        On Colts, only Series 80 (and analogues) have the extra internal safeties. 1911’s going off after they were dropped and landed wrong is WHY the Series 80 existed. And if this particular gun had a funky trigger job and was being carried cocked and locked, a good hard blow might just do the trick.

        • ThomasD

          Good point.

  • Geoff a well known Skeptic

    Vibration and rotation. Will the pistol turn around a be pointed at you? Geoff Who would prefer more control.

  • BobF

    I have been using magnets to hold two 1911s to steel bed rails for several years now. The magnets are covered with a single layer of duct tape top prevent marring the pistols. I have seen no difference in performance whatsoever and the slide, where the pistol contacts the magnet, exhibits only minor magnetic properties — it will barely hold a small finishing nail placed against it; the slide won’t actually pull the nail toward it. The same nail is pulled to the magnet itself from over an inch away.

  • xteeth

    Boy will this ever keep the neighbor’s kids from finding your guns and killing each other or you.(NOT) The most likely result of you having a firearm in your home with or without a magnet, is injury to you or someone you love – it is 43 times as likely in fact and those are bad odds.

    • MiddleCLassVoter

      That statistic from the Kellermann study has been roundly discredited as false … even the original author himself admitted it was false. Any study, such as Kellermann’s “43 times” fallacy, that only counts bodies will expectedly underestimate the benefits of gun a thousand fold. Think for a minute. Would anyone suggest that the only measure of the benefit of law enforcement is the number of people killed by police? Of course not. The honest measure of the benefits of guns are the lives saved, the injuries prevented, the medical costs saved by deaths and injuries averted, and the property protected. 65 lives protected by guns for every life lost to a gun.

      Suter E. “Guns in the Medical Literature – A Failure of Peer Review.” Journal of the Medical Association of Georgia. March 1994; 83: 133-48.

      • xteeth

        Boy are you good at making up statistics. You see actually there are 43,876,378,004 people killed by handguns weilded by children each year. 76,908,426 of those were by children under the age of 6 killing their second cousins. You don’t like the results and like I said “who cares if it is only 20 to 1. The odds are bad and your making up statistcs and wishing for better results turns out to be a bad idea when it is your 6 year old that is killed.But keep up your fear and braggadocio. Actual parents with actual dead children are not amused. What excuse are you using to deny the background checks study from Georgia?

        • Cynic

          What…. what… are you high?

        • MiddleCLassVoter

          Dude, the guy who published that study admitted it was wrong and biased. Get your head out of your a$$ and do some research you idiot. READ something other than your panty-waist liberal crap.