Corbon Urban Response Ammo

Corbon Urban Response

Corbon is now making a new .223 Remington load called the Urban Response.  The new line of ammunition appears to only have one load…for now.  It is unknown at the time of this writing if additional loads are in the works.

The .223 load uses “Match Quality Lapua Brass” and Corbon claims the ammo consistently produces 1/2″ groups at 100 yards.

Corbon Urban Response

The 55 grain hollow point bullet uses a thin copper jacket and has a soft lead core.  Combined with a velocity of 2900 fps from a 16″ barrel, penetration is limited to 10″ in ballistic gel.  According to Corbon the round is designed for self-defense in “close quarter urban environments.”

MSRP is $63.75 for a box of 50.

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  • JT

    With ammo prices what they are, this is actually not that expensive

  • Esh325

    Doesn’t meet the FBI’s 12 inches of penetration requirement.

    • bbmg

      Beat me to it. Also I don’t see why they are talking about the accuracy at 100 yards when the round is “designed for self-defense in close quarter urban environments”.

      • Leoon

        I think they are going for both actually, but advertiseing “safe levels of penatration” to sell better to SWAT

      • dan citizen

        I guess the intended users have much larger houses than I do. For me close quarters is a lot closer to 100 inches than 100 yards.

      • DiverEngrSL17K

        Good point. Then again, as Steve Truffer implies, the accuracy quoted may simply be a confirmation of the round’s measured consistent performance ( as determined using the widely-accepted 100-yard range / zeroing standard for long gun cartridges ) and little more.

        • DiverEngrSL17K

          Which also begs the question : What rifle and range set-up, and under what circumstances or conditions, exactly, did Corbon’s testers use for the in-house trials that led them to claim 1/2″ MOA @ 100 yards?

    • M.

      Was that for a handguns? Because, if so, that’s terrible.

  • Mazryonh

    If we were talking about military MOUT needs, we would need penetration through things like cinderblocks and automobile bodies. This is clearly “civilian urban response.”

    Technically, if we wanted to go for the full connotation of “urban response” we could also talk about “riot response” because those almost always take place in urban environments.

    • Leoon

      Ern no its desiged to sell to swat the same people who where early adopters of Frangibles for MP5′s and pistols they want to eliminate all possibility of over penatration effectivness be damned

  • Lance

    Just Corbon trying to compete with Federal and Horandy. Both TAP and TRU are the best tactical ammo for Police and Security around. Doubt Corbon will compete against the LE ammo giants in the LE field.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      We used Federal then went to TAP.

      • Nicks87

        Black Hills 60gr Soft Point is what many of us are using now. It’s pretty much the cat’s pajamas.

  • Mark

    Does the ‘urban’ part of that mean that it’s designed to reduce overpenetration? Or overall range? Sound?

    • Leoon

      the selling point is in the bullet and its tendency to not over penatrate like I said before its desiged to sell to SWATY’s who genrally favor under penatration to the vauge possibility of a through and through

      • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

        The powers that be are the most concerned and of course they have final say on which ammo is adopted.

        • Leoon

          yes they are happy to screw their men in favor of decreased liability from through and throughs as nobody gets sued because a wounded criminal shot a cop but people do get sued when rounds pass through walls and they dont care enough to find a proper medium

          • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

            That about covers it. I’d say they care but the lawsuit issue trumps it all.

        • DiverEngrSL17K

          Hi, Phil :

          Will you be publishing the results of your testing for general perusal? I think it would be most interesting and may start an entirely new discussion as well as help formulate some realistic technical conclusions. Thanks in advance!

  • Lewin

    “Match Quality Lapua Brass”? Forgive a simple soldier, but is this a thing?

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      A trend fad or whatever? I doubt it. I imagine they mean the brass is very uniform across the board case to case.

      • BOCAT 9

        Kinda like “Rich Corinthian leather”.

  • Steve Truffer

    Small groups= consistent charge & bullet = consistent performance

  • Max

    In the cities over-penetration is a fairly big concern, especially for people who live in apartment complexes; which is why some might elect to use the cartridge advertised. In my opinion, for what that’s really worth, sometimes what works for the FBI isn’t the best choice for Joe on the streets and vice-versa. I would say that this cartridge is a bit gimmicky, but it does fill a niche.

  • 00devon

    A little off topic… But I am looking for info on the Corbon tubular hollow point. It had a sealing dick as the round was truly hollow I.e. a pipe. I ran across these in Central America back in the 90′s and haven’t seen them since so any info would be most appreciated.

    • me

      PMC made .38 Special ammo with a 66 grain, non-deforming tubular hollow point projectile 20+ years ago. The bullet was solid copper and was loaded atop a plastic disk to seal the bore. They marketed it as the “Ultramag” round, I think. Rumor has it the bullet was designed by the late Abe Flatau. They didn’t pay him for use of his design. He sued. That’s why they stopped making them, supposedly.

      In ballistic gelatin it was not very impressive. It was better than most nonexpanding bullets in terms of permanent wound cavity, and it gave very efficient, very deep penetration in soft tissue, but lots of conventional JHP ammo that existed at the time seemed to perform significantly better in every way.

      Now, if someone today wanted to resurrect the concept, and pay proper dues to Mr. Flatau’s heirs and estate, if you were to make these in 9mm or .40, you might really have something. It might be a good deer hunting round in .44 Magnum too. PMC’s design to produce it solely as an ultra-lightweight, moderately high velocity round in the obsolete, low-pressure, low-power, blackpowder era relic .38 Special platform is inexplicable.

  • Laserbait

    I fail to see why this differs from any off the shelf varmint ammo. Varmint bullets are hollow points, soft lead with thin jackets also.

  • John Daniels

    What’s up with the low muzzle velocity? 5.56 with a 55 grain bullet usually has a MV around 3,150 or so.