The B&T APC9 Suomi

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Swiss manufacturer Brügger & Thomet has a civilian model of the APC9 SMG currently available in Finland. Designated the APC9 Suomi (literally Finland or Finnish), this 9x19mm semi-auto sub-carbine has one distinct feature for the Finnish market – a fixed suppressor.

In order to comply with the 1997 Finnish law, this is required in order to give the barrel an overall length of 425 mm (16.7 in). The carbine is also required to have a fixed stock, it appears the same as the standard APC9 stock, but cannot be folded. This stock modification was also accepted in Germany.

The suppressor is similar to the B&T MP5QD, with a single block baffle design, which can be removed without removing the tube from the gun.

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The APC9 has an ambidextrous charging handle, bolt release, magazine catch, and safety lever. Unlike their previous TP9/MP9 series, the safety has been moved back to the familiar location under the thumb of the dominant hand. The magazine is actually the only shared part, with the TP9/MP9 series, and in Europe are available in 15, 20, 25, and 30 round capacities.

Like the other APC versions available, the Suomi comes complete with the Aimpoint Micro TL-1 optic. Selling for 2790.00 €, that’s roughly $3725.00 US, I’m still disappointed there isn’t a US importer for any APC model.




Ethan M

Ethan’s firearm interests are mostly with Cold War era select-fire weapons and their semi-auto counterparts.


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  • Will

    I wish B&T would make a U.S. importer side. I want them to flood the market with the MP-9s.

    • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

      Isn’t DSA their US importer? They used to sell the TP-9 pistols.

      • http://aftermathgunclub.com/ Aftermath Gun Club

        Currently DSA is not importing firearms from B&T.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      As someone who owned, hated, and sold a TP9… Trust me, you DO NOT likely want one. Extremely small niche market for that gun, I won’t say piece of crap, but it makes the MP5 look simple in terms of function and maufacturing, they made a German gun look too simple, I’ll let that sink in for a bit.

  • jamezb

    Rather than importing them… with all the associated ATF and Customs hassles…, B&T should open a U.S. plant. I think there is sufficient interest in both LE and Civilian markets to make the venture profitable. We have room in Arkansas…Hear me B&T? (LOL)

  • koebs

    the magazine seems tiny, I don’t know why you wouldn’t design the mag well to look “tighter”

    • http://aftermathgunclub.com/ Aftermath Gun Club

      This is likely to accommodate the 45 caliber magazine for the APC45, while utilizing as many compatible parts as possible.

  • Giolli Joker

    “You can’t have a short barrel… 425mm is the minimum lenght!”
    “D’oh! :-(
    “And you get a fully suppressed barrel!”
    “DEAL!!!”

    Lucky Finnish…

  • ile

    Hi, writing from Finland. Yeah we don’t have any kind of restrictions on silencers, muzzle brakes or any muzzle devices for that matter. There is only one case of gun violence where a suppressor was involved in Finnish history if I remember corectly.

    Suppressors are seen as a good thing for limiting the noise from hunting and regular shooting ranges :)

    • noob

      the reason why suppressors are so heavily regulated in the USA is in a large part due to this stunt pulled by OSS Director William Donovan just after the suppressor was invented

      “OSS Director William Joseph “Wild Bill” Donovan demonstrated the pistol for President Franklin D. Roosevelt at the White House. According to OSS research chief Stanley Lovell,[7] Donovan (an old and trusted friend of the President) was waved into the Oval Office, where Roosevelt was dictating a letter. While Roosevelt finished his message, Donovan turned his back and fired ten shots into a sandbag he had brought with him, announced what he had done and handed the smoking gun to the astonished president. The British SOE (Special Operations Executive) Welrod assassination pistol with an integral suppressor was also used by the American OSS on clandestine operations in Nazi occupied Europe during the Second World War.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor#History

      The stunt was childish, self indulgent and totally what I would have done in the same position.

      anyway, that’s probably the main reason why an american isn’t allowed to drive a car without a muffler, but that same american must pay an extra tax if you want a muffler for your gun.

  • Finnish Jan

    Actually Finnish law requires rifle or shotgun to have at least barrel length of 40 cm ja total length of 84 cm. This effectively bans all foldings stocks and telestock in AR-15 carbines. It is possible to get shorter firearms by law but Finnish officeholders are misguided and have said to appealing courts that if the guns is 83 cm long instead of 85 cm it will be stolen and it’s thread to public masses… After school shootings all gun owners are stalked and we are the new jews!

  • Michael Pham

    I wonder if this is, like the CZ Bren, partially intended to capture some of fame behind the other “Finnish”, the KP 31. Its a bit strange coming from B&T though.

  • bbmg

    Who in his right mind would pay almost $4000 for a 9mm luger carbine? Granted it’s very tacticool, and I’m sure it’s very well made, but whoop-de-do … what advantage has this really got over the MP9, it looks a lot bulkier and less manouverable plus firing the same cartridge, it has exactly the same performance on target.

    How exactly is it better than one of these, designed and made almost a century ago? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP_18

  • Esh325

    I’d rather have one of those Finnish AK’s instead!

  • JumpIf NotZero

    You can. For that price you can have a really nice MP5-SD clone legally here I the states. You’d actually save money, so I wouldn’t go drooling too hard over this B&T.

    • noob

      interesting – did you have reliability problems?

  • DougE

    It looks like a nice rifle/subgun, but I’m surprised that in areas that require 16″ + barrels they don’t develop more bullpup style rifles to shorten the over all length.