IDF officially adopts polymer CAA Tactical MAG 17

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The Israeli Defense Force has adopted the CAA Tactical MAG 17 to replace their aluminium magazines.

The IDF press release (“cartridges” seem to be a mistranslation of magazine) says …

After relying on aluminum magazines for many years, the Ground Forces will soon be equipped with next-generation, polymeric cartridges instead. The new cartridges, which combat units will receive over the next several months, will increase reliability and last several times longer than those currently in use.

Following a long examination process, which included both laboratory and field testing, the IDF has decided to distribute 10,000 of the new cartridges. These magazines, which are produced by the CAA Tactical company, were chosen over several other types of cartridges – plastic, aluminum, and polymeric – from a number of companies.

Additionally, because the new cartridges will last much longer than the older models, the change will save the IDF a great deal of money. “If the earlier cartridges could only be used seven times, these ones can be used many dozens of times,” emphasized Maj. Iluz. “In fact, we have not yet managed to destroy one of these cartridges. This is a tremendous change, which will lead to significant savings in the purchase of cartridges.”

[ Many thanks to Joe for emailing us the tip. ]


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  • KC

    In case anyone is wondering, CAA is an Israeli company.

    Answers the “huh, that’s a random mag, I wonder why they didn’t go with PMAGS?” question if anyone else had it.

    • Joe Schmoe

      It also has a few features that particularly pertain to the IDF combat practices.

      Among them is the white “used-or-unused” indicator at the bottom of the mag; standard IDF doctrine is to return used mags to the mag pouch (they don’t usually use dump bags) so being able to see which ones are full without having to take them out and weigh them or push down on the top is a blessing for them.

      Now before you say that the current doctrine is stupid and foolish, just remember this: Different units, different doctrines. It works well enough for them up till now.

    • Phil White

      Yes indeed it is an Israeli company. I get emails from a former naval spec ops soldier who is in the IDF reserves now.

      He sends me emails all the time on CAA products. Apparently the IDF uses more than just the mags CAA manufactures.

      The other product he uses is the stock which uses the Glock converting it into a carbine configuration.

      • Joe Schmoe

        Indeed.

        Their foregrips, Picatinny rails, flashlight mounts and buttstocks are in widespread use in the IDF as well; though to be fair I’m not sure if in any official capacity.

  • Mattdingo

    “If the earlier cartridges could only be used seven times, these ones can be used many dozens of times,”…

    Your previous issue mag could only be used seven times? Were you still using Canadian Thermolds?

    I can understand buying new mags with an added feature or two, and favoring a Israeli company, but say that, not a bogus statement about increased lifespan.

    I deal with police departments that still issue Vietnam-era 20 rounders, they still work great, and have been used much more than seven times.

    • Joe Schmoe

      I believe the General is talking about the average lifespan and use of the regular aluminum mags.

      7 times = Roughly 3 months of frontline duty in IDF terms from personal experience. He’s not far off the recommended amount of time to switch around mags that have been abused in the field.

      Remember, we are not talking police departments here, I’m sure aluminum mags would last much longer there.

      • Mattdingo

        That makes sense, seven rotations / tours of duty.

        Also, my use of the word “bogus” was a bit extreme.

        Thanks Joe.

  • John Doe

    Does anyone have experience with these? I like my PMAGs and Lancers, but I’d love to check out something new.

    • Joshua

      Just dont. CAA is not known for quality, despite the fact that the IDF chose them. Stick to PMAG’s and Lancer’s.

      • Hoseking

        Their older products are crappy but in the past year or so they have made huge strides in product quality and customer service. These mags have performed and in cases outperformed in tests side by side with pmags and other enhanced reliability mags.

      • Joshua

        You have any links to those tests? Cause Personally I have only seen CAA products crap out when needed.

      • W

        not only that, but the IDF also used Orlite mags, which are atrocious in my opinion.

      • R.J. Colter

        CAA isn’t know for quality? I own a pistol grip and fore grip for my AR and love them. I have had nothing break or shake loose, nor have I had any discomfort. In fact, the pistol grip is one of the best I’ve ever felt. I don’t know what you’ve used or how you’ve handled your gear but CAA has my stamp of approval. As for this newer mag, I await further reviews.

    • Phil White

      I have some of these mags coming my way later this week. I promise you now I will put them through the mill!

      In fact I think I’ll video them when my car runs over one:-)

      • Nicks87

        Phil,

        I await your review with great anticipation!

        Also, if possible, would you mind posting the weight of some of the new popular polymer mags and how they compare to each other. Some of these plastic mags look kind of bulky. I’m a firm believer in “every ounce counts”. Thanks in advance.

      • Phil White

        Nick,

        Good deal—I’ll be glad to weigh them in for you. I’ll compare the P-Mag, USGI aluminum, a Troy and finally these CAA mags.

      • Nicks87

        Sweet

        I primarily use P-mags for training along with some Aluminum ones with anti-tilt followers but it’s about time we replaced some of the beat up ones. I dont have a need for count-down mags but if the price is right I could be convinced.

      • Phil White

        Nick I think they run about $17 MSRP. I imagine they will sell for more like $14–$15 with a little google searching:-)

        I normally use P-Mags also but if they work well I could also be convinced to change or at least add them to my P-Mag’s.

  • gunslinger

    Thanks Joe
    I was going to ask what the bottom pushpin was for.

  • Lance

    Looked at them they seem to be nice mags.

  • Social Impotence

    CAA Mags run in my FNC machine gun with no problems whereas PMags give me quite a few issues. I like PMags quite a bit, in my AR15. Just voicing that the CAA has proven to me that they got some things right.

    • 6677

      PMags are wider than the stanag that the FNC accepts, they are intended for AR15’s only which have a magwell slightly larger than the stanag by a tiny amount, the grip pattern is also flared to fit the depth of an AR15 magwell only. The EMag should give the PMag experience for non AR15 stanag magwells

      • Social Impotence

        I’m working on an Excel spread sheet for this, the Emag was one of my first choices but in the FNC they just fall out under full-auto fire. I initially thought there was a problem with the magazine-latch, but after replacing the mag-latch (not easy to find) the Emags still have the same issue. I considered this an FNC only issue until I had the same problem, in semi-auto fire, using the Leader T2 Mk5. In both cases the FN steel magazines work without issue as do the CAA magazines. All of my Emags were then rounded up and cased with the SCAR where I haven’t had issues with them. I’d like to see an upgraded EMag come out, until then the CAA mags work fine.

  • Esh325

    A good choice. If only the US would dump their GI magazines for Lancer magazines.

    • alannon

      If we stopped buying aluminum mags, the aluminum industry would probably collapse…;)

      • Aaron

        Just so you know there is currently enough aluminum out there currently in circulation that we really don’t need to mine anymore boxite ore…So your comment really is unfounded…But I sure as hell wouldn’t want to see those miners out of a job

  • Chase

    I’ve seen these reviewed before. Personally, I think the “full” indicator at the bottom is really cool. The floorplate looks really wide though. I hope the IDF likes them.

  • Davey

    The IDF also uses Fobus holsters. They seem to have a different perspective on the duty life of plastic stuff.

    • Phil White

      Fobus holsters is another Israeli company:-)