Was Ruger Developing an AR-15 Automatic Rifle?

A Ruger patent for a "Firearm Barrel Retaining System", filed in 2009, was published by the USTPO yesterday. The patent application (#20120017483) describes a quick change barrel system that includes an old school machine gun carry handle that help facilitate hot barrel changes.

I wonder if Ruger had planned to enter a quick barrel change variant of their SR-556 into the Marines IAR competition that was won by H&K.

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  1. Ianwrote on January 31st, 2012 at 3:08 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This would explain partially why their gas block is so ridiculously oversized.

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  2. Rafaelwrote on January 29th, 2012 at 7:49 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It looks like a great tool for operators who are moving in and out of houses a lot. The only thing I might have a concern with is the accuracy at longer ranges. Overall a great idea.

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    • Rafaelresponded to Rafael on January 29th, 2012 at 7:51 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I made this comment by accident to the wrong post. It was intended for the under barrel shotgun.

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  3. charles222wrote on January 29th, 2012 at 12:54 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Yes, you’re misunderstanding me. All of those weapons might have been designed overseas, but US law requires them to be built here. Beretta, HK, and F&N all have factories here for their military contracts.

    http://defense-legislation.blogspot.com/2012/01/berry-amendment-requiring-defense.html

    It’s a stupid law (seriously, it restricts us from buying BOOTS made overseas) but it’s one we have to deal with.

    Also, reaching outside the military for a second-SIGs, as far as I know, are actually made in Germany, as Switzerland has strange export laws.

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    • Wresponded to charles222 on January 30th, 2012 at 3:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      i disagree that the berry amendment is a stupid law. any individual equipment of the US soldier needs to be made in the US.

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      • Charles222responded to W on February 02nd, 2012 at 12:52 am Link To Comment |

        Rangers and SOCOM would disagree with you. They love their foreign-made Asolo boots. Which they get issued, as Barry doesn’t apply to them. ;)

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  4. charles222wrote on January 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Huh, interesting; always had trouble imagining what an M4 with a quick-change barrel might look like.

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  5. lettiwrote on January 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Google Patents link: http://www.google.com/patents/US20100269682

    Lots of pretty pictures and few ideas that I’m going to give a try at some point.

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  6. The Stigwrote on January 28th, 2012 at 7:16 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It never hurts to own a patent on something one of your competitors successfully markets to the government either. Getting a constant stream of royalty payments is one way to stay in business.

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    • Other Steveresponded to The Stig on January 28th, 2012 at 8:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      On that note, I think the old school carry handle was for obfuscation of what they were really patenting/intending. I don’t even need to read it to know that in the claims section they will state it that a handle is optional for their system.

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    • spc fishresponded to The Stig on January 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      no they arent. they are made in factories in the USA. all the FN machineguns, Beretta pistols, and M4 and M16s are made in the united states. maybe the seals buy foriegn weapons but thatd be about it

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  7. Big Jaywrote on January 28th, 2012 at 4:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    God I hope so. I think the SR556 being adopted by a branch of the US military would be a great thing. A reliable piston driven system made in America, by an American owned company.

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    • DeeBresponded to Big Jay on January 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Carrier tilt is a known problem w/ the SR556. LWRC M6 series is squared away, little to no carrier tilt, lighter than a SR556, nitro carburized CHF barrel, TeflonNickel plated BCG and trigger group, and excellent customer service. LWRC is an American company, employs American workers and their Rifles are made here in America.

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    • Komradresponded to Big Jay on January 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      In addition to LWRC, there is the ADCOR BEAR mad in the us. I believe it was even in a recent competition, but I’m not sure which one or what branch.

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      • charles222responded to Komrad on January 30th, 2012 at 4:32 am Link To Comment |

        It’s in the M4 upgrade competition, IIRC.

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    • charles222responded to Big Jay on January 28th, 2012 at 2:32 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      So, basically, it’s chief value to the military would be having a piston? Weapons made overseas have been off-limits to the military for decades now.

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      • Marineresponded to charles222 on January 28th, 2012 at 9:38 pm Link To Comment |

        What are you talking about? All of the military’s machine guns are made in Belgium. The IAR in Germany, the SEAL’s pistol in Switzerland, M9′s in Italy, etc. Only service rifles made by Colt are US made. Or am I misunderstanding your statement?

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      • Wresponded to charles222 on January 30th, 2012 at 3:25 pm Link To Comment |

        http://www.pof-usa.net/articles/P416Torture.pdf

        one of the most compelling reasons for the US military to use a piston rifle for their next service weapon.

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  1. Big Jaywrote on January 28th, 2012 at 4:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    God I hope so. I think the SR556 being adopted by a branch of the US military would be a great thing. A reliable piston driven system made in America, by an American owned company.

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    • DeeBresponded to Big Jay on January 28th, 2012 at 10:25 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Carrier tilt is a known problem w/ the SR556. LWRC M6 series is squared away, little to no carrier tilt, lighter than a SR556, nitro carburized CHF barrel, TeflonNickel plated BCG and trigger group, and excellent customer service. LWRC is an American company, employs American workers and their Rifles are made here in America.

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    • charles222responded to Big Jay on January 28th, 2012 at 2:32 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      So, basically, it’s chief value to the military would be having a piston? Weapons made overseas have been off-limits to the military for decades now.

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      • Wresponded to charles222 on January 30th, 2012 at 3:25 pm Link To Comment |

        http://www.pof-usa.net/articles/P416Torture.pdf

        one of the most compelling reasons for the US military to use a piston rifle for their next service weapon.

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      • Marineresponded to charles222 on January 28th, 2012 at 9:38 pm Link To Comment |

        What are you talking about? All of the military’s machine guns are made in Belgium. The IAR in Germany, the SEAL’s pistol in Switzerland, M9′s in Italy, etc. Only service rifles made by Colt are US made. Or am I misunderstanding your statement?

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    • Komradresponded to Big Jay on January 28th, 2012 at 1:42 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      In addition to LWRC, there is the ADCOR BEAR mad in the us. I believe it was even in a recent competition, but I’m not sure which one or what branch.

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      • charles222responded to Komrad on January 30th, 2012 at 4:32 am Link To Comment |

        It’s in the M4 upgrade competition, IIRC.

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  2. The Stigwrote on January 28th, 2012 at 7:16 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It never hurts to own a patent on something one of your competitors successfully markets to the government either. Getting a constant stream of royalty payments is one way to stay in business.

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    • Other Steveresponded to The Stig on January 28th, 2012 at 8:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      On that note, I think the old school carry handle was for obfuscation of what they were really patenting/intending. I don’t even need to read it to know that in the claims section they will state it that a handle is optional for their system.

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    • spc fishresponded to The Stig on January 30th, 2012 at 8:12 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      no they arent. they are made in factories in the USA. all the FN machineguns, Beretta pistols, and M4 and M16s are made in the united states. maybe the seals buy foriegn weapons but thatd be about it

      Please rate this comment: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0
  3. charles222wrote on January 28th, 2012 at 9:39 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Huh, interesting; always had trouble imagining what an M4 with a quick-change barrel might look like.

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  4. charles222wrote on January 29th, 2012 at 12:54 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Yes, you’re misunderstanding me. All of those weapons might have been designed overseas, but US law requires them to be built here. Beretta, HK, and F&N all have factories here for their military contracts.

    http://defense-legislation.blogspot.com/2012/01/berry-amendment-requiring-defense.html

    It’s a stupid law (seriously, it restricts us from buying BOOTS made overseas) but it’s one we have to deal with.

    Also, reaching outside the military for a second-SIGs, as far as I know, are actually made in Germany, as Switzerland has strange export laws.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 1
    • Wresponded to charles222 on January 30th, 2012 at 3:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      i disagree that the berry amendment is a stupid law. any individual equipment of the US soldier needs to be made in the US.

      Please rate this comment: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0
      • Charles222responded to W on February 02nd, 2012 at 12:52 am Link To Comment |

        Rangers and SOCOM would disagree with you. They love their foreign-made Asolo boots. Which they get issued, as Barry doesn’t apply to them. ;)

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  5. lettiwrote on January 28th, 2012 at 8:44 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Google Patents link: http://www.google.com/patents/US20100269682

    Lots of pretty pictures and few ideas that I’m going to give a try at some point.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0
  6. Ianwrote on January 31st, 2012 at 3:08 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This would explain partially why their gas block is so ridiculously oversized.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  7. Rafaelwrote on January 29th, 2012 at 7:49 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It looks like a great tool for operators who are moving in and out of houses a lot. The only thing I might have a concern with is the accuracy at longer ranges. Overall a great idea.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
    • Rafaelresponded to Rafael on January 29th, 2012 at 7:51 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I made this comment by accident to the wrong post. It was intended for the under barrel shotgun.

      Please rate this comment: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0

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