Umarex / IWI UZI .22 LR Rifle and Pistol

Umarex USA are importing .22 pistols and rifles patterned on the famous UZI machine gun. The guns are manufactured by Carl Walther in Germany but are branded IWI (the official UZI manufacturer). There are two models. The rifle model modeled after the UZI carbine and includes a folding stock and faux suppressor. The pistol model is modeled after the Micro UZI machine pistol.

UZI Pistol

UZI Rifle

UZI Rifle

Both models include 20-round .22 LR magazines.

UZI Pistol

Pricing has not yet been finalized. They expect that the UZI pistol will retail for around $480 and the rifle will be about $645.

I am looking forward to trying these guns. They look a lot of fun.

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  1. halfwaywrote on May 02nd, 2012 at 5:45 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Might sound stupid but being an 80s kid, I got to see this gun in all the action flicks and always wanted one. Being in Cali, kind of hard to get some of the “cooler” stuff here but I do love shooting .22s and this is right up my alley.

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  2. Katowrote on February 05th, 2012 at 6:54 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Does anyone know the date that the tacticool is going on sale and if so where would be the best place to order one from.

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  3. mehreenwrote on February 01st, 2012 at 5:22 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    awsomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee <3

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  4. John Rauwrote on January 12th, 2012 at 10:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Great! I like UZI submachine guns. It can be fired from open bolt!

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  5. Best 22 Pistolswrote on January 11th, 2012 at 3:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Beautiful. I’ve got a couple thousand rounds of 22lr lying around, I may have to grab one of these for an excuse to shoot it.

    I’ll wait on some reviews though, never been a big fan of Umarex.

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  6. RickOBwrote on January 09th, 2012 at 8:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    If you have to ask what purpose these serve, then they aren’t for you!

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  7. Chuckwrote on January 09th, 2012 at 2:44 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Day at the range with a Vector carbine, $150. Day at the range with a .22 Uzi carbine $20. These are for folks that don’t want to fiddle with .22lr conversion kits.

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  8. J.T.wrote on January 08th, 2012 at 7:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Those rifles are going to have to be under $500 street price if they want to compete.

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  9. John Doewrote on January 08th, 2012 at 7:38 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I think a fully automatic .22 would be really neat. On a larger Uzi carbine, fully automatic with a .22 should have barely any recoil.

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  10. Rangefinderwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 6:27 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I think this is a good business model. People enjoy toys for a time, then look for another toy to satisfy. Nothing like repeat business. How many battle rifles or CCW’s does one person need? Toys…no limit.

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  11. jamiebwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 11:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    You can buy a like new norinco 9mm uzi for $695. You can get a legit like new iwi/imi uzi for $1100.

    This is a umarex, so its all potmetal right? Pass.

    I think masterpiece arms makes a mac10 22 lr. Its all steel.

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    • Paulresponded to jamieb on May 21st, 2012 at 12:24 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Umarex guns are junk . . All 3 of my local gun stores stopped stocking Umarex guns . So you are dead right .

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  12. SKSloverwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 6:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    if they made a mini uzi, with side folding stock, and removeable barrel, i’d look into getting one.

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  13. RickHwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 6:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I was also never a fan of the semi only 9mm Uzi’s. The true submachinegun is an awesome weapon for it’s intended purpose. As a semi-auto they were overweight and and uncomfortable to shoot, this .22 version will be even more so…in my opinion.

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  14. RedFalconBillwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:59 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I see that Umarex is continuing to devastate the Walther brand they bought but leveraging its name with their interpretations of firearms.

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  15. Scottwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:44 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    My S&W MP15-22 is the most fun gun to shoot I’ve owned. I can’t speak to this particular uzi replica, but I can’t dismiss replicas in general because they can be fun as hell.

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  16. erwoswrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Let’s see… $645 for a shoddy imitation of an Uzi, or $815 for a Vector?

    I understand that 22lr is cheaper to shoot, but it makes me die a little inside when I think about how many people are going to jump on this.

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  17. Westwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:33 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Who is the intended market for these .22 replicas?
    People with way too much disposable income im guessing.

    Whatever yanks your crank but I just dont get it.
    Now if it was F/A with a 50 rd mag then we would be talking.

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    • Steve (The Firearm Blog)responded to West on January 07th, 2012 at 10:59 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      They are plinkers. Just designed for fun at the range. Real UZIs are expensive.

      Their serious purpose would be as a practice for UZI owners. UZIs are quite popular with machine gun competitors.

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      • buster Charlieresponded to Steve (The Firearm Blog) on January 08th, 2012 at 4:17 pm Link To Comment |

        The problem I see is the “rifle” version is not much cheaper than the Century 9mm Rifle.

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  18. Wwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:02 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    haha these new 22 replica guns are awesome. They are certainly good for ppl that want a gun that look like a particular favorite of theirs, without paying a extravagant price (like the HK 416, SCAR, and AR15 for example).

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    • derekbresponded to W on January 09th, 2012 at 5:47 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Now let’s be honest, you can get an AR-15 in this price range.

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      • Wresponded to derekb on January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am Link To Comment |

        oh ya? show me…because im pretty sure its damned hard finding a 5.56 AR15 for 400-500 bucks.

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      • David/Sharpieresponded to derekb on April 05th, 2012 at 9:38 am Link To Comment |

        The benefit is cost savings of ammo, not the gun itself, like buying a replica airsoft for training ($15 for 3000 rounds) the guns are high up, ammo is lower than dirt cheap

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  19. Dwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 3:55 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I’m really not a fan of the “let’s make cool-looking high-priced .22 replicas of real guns!” movement in the industry. I mean really, aside from being an interesting conversation piece and a plinker, what good is a .22 micro uzi or .22 uzi carbine? If all someone wants is a plinker, go buy a regular rifle or pistol; it’s cheaper, probably more reliable, and very likely easier to get parts for.

    Also the next time i see absolutely anything in .22 labeled “tactical”, i fear i may lose my mind.

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    • bbmgresponded to D on January 07th, 2012 at 11:41 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I think the humble 22LR has its place in a “tactical” environment.

      Exhibit A – the SV-99 “sniper” rifle: http://izhevsk.club.guns.ru/eng/sv99.html

      Those nutty Russians field this because at urban ranges it is an effective enough round, because “If a target is closer than 100 meters, You don’t have to defeat a ballistic jacket. An exposed neck, face or head is just enough!” – and fitted with an adequate suppressor the noise will go unnoticed.

      Exhibit B – The MGV-176 submachinegun: http://world.guns.ru/smg/yu/mgv-176-e.html

      Like the American 180 on which it is based, this spits out 22LR at a tremendous rate which more than compensates for the individual round’s relatively low muzzle energy. It’s the equivalent of a “buckshot hose” if you will, just the ticket for CQB.

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      • El Freddioresponded to bbmg on January 09th, 2012 at 12:15 pm Link To Comment |

        The SV-99 is used mainly for lights and dogs. It can kill a person, but the Russian’s probably use the SV-98 or something else for anti-personal. Also, having the SV-98, would allow the operative to take a body shot, if they needed to.
        The MVG-176 wouldn’t be so good as in Military CQB, as if an enemy has armour, you’re not gonna get through it before they get a shot you (granted, in A-stan and Iraq that isn’t a big deal) but if you do have to engage hostiles at a longer range, you might be in a bit of trouble. In Police CQB, accuracy is a must, and going full auto would be a bad idea with the MVG-176 as it would be hard to get short bursts, even if the recoil was second to none. Also, the pan magazine wouldn’t be ideal for going through doorways. It could work, that’s for sure, but there are better options in my opinion. Plus, I doubt that much ammo would be needed (but it would be nice :D )
        (PS, not trying to say you’re wrong in anyway, just my $0.02)

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      • bbmgresponded to bbmg on January 09th, 2012 at 9:18 pm Link To Comment |

        I agree in the send that even a UK legal limit 12 ft/lb air rifle is capable of being lethal, of course this doesn’t mean its the right tool for the job. 22LR remains “marginal” against a human target and for a concealed urban sniper, the Russians have lots of 9x39mm subsonic rifles are doubtless a better tool for the job unless absolute stealth is required.

        As for the MGV-176, it would be interesting to see how it performs against armour. The American 180 offered the “jackhammer effect” which supposedly caused body armour to fail through concentrated fire, certainly repeated hits in rapid succession are capable of chewing through targets that would resist a single round. This effect is of course diminshed at longer ranges as group size increases.

        Over distance, it would again have to be compared to a shotgun with buckshot as opposed to an assault rifle. It can certainly be argued though that a high volume of small calibre fire can be more effective in many situations than low volume large calibre fire. It might not go through armour, or even most urban cover, but there are certainly enough rounds in the air to ensure a high probability that one of them will hit a vital unarmoured spot.

        Not a new idea either – William DeLisle, designer of the notorious suppressed carbine that bears his name, proposed a 22LR machinegun for jungle warfare back in 1943: http://www.scribd.com/doc/41365896/Death-Delivering-DeLisle (last paragraph of page 31)

        For the AR lovers:

        http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/am15-full-auto-22lr-m16-upper-receiver-with-220-round-drum/

        :D

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      • El Freddioresponded to bbmg on January 09th, 2012 at 11:31 pm Link To Comment |

        I dunno about spraying and hoping to hit a non-armoured part. Still, that De Lisle idea has given me this image of a patrol or base guards in the jungle trying to find the guy who just mowed down part of a squad with his supressed auto .22. Yep, Armchair Commander as all hell, but that’s what I am :P .

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  20. Brianwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 3:27 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Is there any word on the materials used? I’m wondering if they’re steel/aluminum or the zinc alloy used in the Walther pistols.

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  21. Pete Sheppardwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 1:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The rifle looks like it should be a fun little gun; presuming reliability and accuracy, of course. Hopefully, it won’t be picky about ammo.

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  22. Lancewrote on January 06th, 2012 at 7:14 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Same as a GSG 5 kind of a waste since they coast way more than a Ruger 10/22. Wish they make a real 9mm version.

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  23. Brian P.wrote on January 06th, 2012 at 6:45 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I normally don’t care for .22′s, but a micro-uzi pistol with a 20-round magazine? Hell yeah!

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  24. 032125wrote on January 06th, 2012 at 5:25 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Without full auto, this is just an extremely overweight pistol. I do not understand the appeal, beyond the Miami Vice nostalgia factor.

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  25. Samopalwrote on January 06th, 2012 at 4:30 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    If it wasn’t a Walther I’d get a Micro Uzi pistol for my girlfriend, she loves Uzis. Sadly, their track record in the field of rimfire pistols doesn’t inspire confidence.

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    • Matt G.responded to Samopal on January 07th, 2012 at 9:49 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I assume you are talking about the p22 which isn’t made by walther.

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      • Samopalresponded to Matt G. on January 08th, 2012 at 10:14 am Link To Comment |

        Yes I’m referring to the P22, which is made by Umarex just like these Uzis…as well as Colt’s newer .22 LR series and a few other crappy branded .22s.

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      • Matt G.responded to Matt G. on January 08th, 2012 at 10:20 am Link To Comment |

        Read the article, man. These are made by walther in Germany and IMPORTED by Umarex.

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      • Samopalresponded to Matt G. on January 08th, 2012 at 7:31 pm Link To Comment |

        Umarex OWNS Walther. They make the P22 (and these Uzis) in their Umarex plant and brand them however they like, kind of like how FN makes Hi-Powers and then brands them “Browning” since they own the Browning name.

        Umarex is the manufacturer, Umarex USA is the importer, and Walther (or IWI in this case) is the brand it’s being sold under.

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    • Samopalresponded to Samopal on January 08th, 2012 at 7:32 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Also, forgot to mention, Umarex is a manufacturer in Germany that’s separate from Umarex USA, which is an American importer.

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  26. conrackwrote on January 06th, 2012 at 2:48 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Twenty Tuzi ?

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    • Guyresponded to conrack on January 09th, 2012 at 8:26 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      You made my day

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  1. conrackwrote on January 06th, 2012 at 2:48 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Twenty Tuzi ?

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    • Guyresponded to conrack on January 09th, 2012 at 8:26 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      You made my day

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  2. RickOBwrote on January 09th, 2012 at 8:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    If you have to ask what purpose these serve, then they aren’t for you!

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  3. Scottwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:44 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    My S&W MP15-22 is the most fun gun to shoot I’ve owned. I can’t speak to this particular uzi replica, but I can’t dismiss replicas in general because they can be fun as hell.

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  4. RedFalconBillwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:59 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I see that Umarex is continuing to devastate the Walther brand they bought but leveraging its name with their interpretations of firearms.

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  5. Brian P.wrote on January 06th, 2012 at 6:45 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I normally don’t care for .22′s, but a micro-uzi pistol with a 20-round magazine? Hell yeah!

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  6. 032125wrote on January 06th, 2012 at 5:25 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Without full auto, this is just an extremely overweight pistol. I do not understand the appeal, beyond the Miami Vice nostalgia factor.

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  7. jamiebwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 11:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    You can buy a like new norinco 9mm uzi for $695. You can get a legit like new iwi/imi uzi for $1100.

    This is a umarex, so its all potmetal right? Pass.

    I think masterpiece arms makes a mac10 22 lr. Its all steel.

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    • Paulresponded to jamieb on May 21st, 2012 at 12:24 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Umarex guns are junk . . All 3 of my local gun stores stopped stocking Umarex guns . So you are dead right .

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  8. Wwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:02 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    haha these new 22 replica guns are awesome. They are certainly good for ppl that want a gun that look like a particular favorite of theirs, without paying a extravagant price (like the HK 416, SCAR, and AR15 for example).

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    • derekbresponded to W on January 09th, 2012 at 5:47 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Now let’s be honest, you can get an AR-15 in this price range.

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      • David/Sharpieresponded to derekb on April 05th, 2012 at 9:38 am Link To Comment |

        The benefit is cost savings of ammo, not the gun itself, like buying a replica airsoft for training ($15 for 3000 rounds) the guns are high up, ammo is lower than dirt cheap

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      • Wresponded to derekb on January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 am Link To Comment |

        oh ya? show me…because im pretty sure its damned hard finding a 5.56 AR15 for 400-500 bucks.

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  9. Rangefinderwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 6:27 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I think this is a good business model. People enjoy toys for a time, then look for another toy to satisfy. Nothing like repeat business. How many battle rifles or CCW’s does one person need? Toys…no limit.

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  10. Pete Sheppardwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 1:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The rifle looks like it should be a fun little gun; presuming reliability and accuracy, of course. Hopefully, it won’t be picky about ammo.

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  11. erwoswrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Let’s see… $645 for a shoddy imitation of an Uzi, or $815 for a Vector?

    I understand that 22lr is cheaper to shoot, but it makes me die a little inside when I think about how many people are going to jump on this.

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  12. J.T.wrote on January 08th, 2012 at 7:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Those rifles are going to have to be under $500 street price if they want to compete.

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  13. Chuckwrote on January 09th, 2012 at 2:44 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Day at the range with a Vector carbine, $150. Day at the range with a .22 Uzi carbine $20. These are for folks that don’t want to fiddle with .22lr conversion kits.

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  14. Brianwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 3:27 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Is there any word on the materials used? I’m wondering if they’re steel/aluminum or the zinc alloy used in the Walther pistols.

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  15. Best 22 Pistolswrote on January 11th, 2012 at 3:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Beautiful. I’ve got a couple thousand rounds of 22lr lying around, I may have to grab one of these for an excuse to shoot it.

    I’ll wait on some reviews though, never been a big fan of Umarex.

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  16. Lancewrote on January 06th, 2012 at 7:14 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Same as a GSG 5 kind of a waste since they coast way more than a Ruger 10/22. Wish they make a real 9mm version.

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  17. Katowrote on February 05th, 2012 at 6:54 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Does anyone know the date that the tacticool is going on sale and if so where would be the best place to order one from.

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  18. RickHwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 6:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I was also never a fan of the semi only 9mm Uzi’s. The true submachinegun is an awesome weapon for it’s intended purpose. As a semi-auto they were overweight and and uncomfortable to shoot, this .22 version will be even more so…in my opinion.

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  19. SKSloverwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 6:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    if they made a mini uzi, with side folding stock, and removeable barrel, i’d look into getting one.

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  20. halfwaywrote on May 02nd, 2012 at 5:45 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Might sound stupid but being an 80s kid, I got to see this gun in all the action flicks and always wanted one. Being in Cali, kind of hard to get some of the “cooler” stuff here but I do love shooting .22s and this is right up my alley.

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  21. mehreenwrote on February 01st, 2012 at 5:22 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    awsomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee <3

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  22. John Doewrote on January 08th, 2012 at 7:38 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I think a fully automatic .22 would be really neat. On a larger Uzi carbine, fully automatic with a .22 should have barely any recoil.

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  23. Samopalwrote on January 06th, 2012 at 4:30 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    If it wasn’t a Walther I’d get a Micro Uzi pistol for my girlfriend, she loves Uzis. Sadly, their track record in the field of rimfire pistols doesn’t inspire confidence.

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    • Samopalresponded to Samopal on January 08th, 2012 at 7:32 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Also, forgot to mention, Umarex is a manufacturer in Germany that’s separate from Umarex USA, which is an American importer.

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    • Matt G.responded to Samopal on January 07th, 2012 at 9:49 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I assume you are talking about the p22 which isn’t made by walther.

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      • Samopalresponded to Matt G. on January 08th, 2012 at 7:31 pm Link To Comment |

        Umarex OWNS Walther. They make the P22 (and these Uzis) in their Umarex plant and brand them however they like, kind of like how FN makes Hi-Powers and then brands them “Browning” since they own the Browning name.

        Umarex is the manufacturer, Umarex USA is the importer, and Walther (or IWI in this case) is the brand it’s being sold under.

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      • Matt G.responded to Matt G. on January 08th, 2012 at 10:20 am Link To Comment |

        Read the article, man. These are made by walther in Germany and IMPORTED by Umarex.

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      • Samopalresponded to Matt G. on January 08th, 2012 at 10:14 am Link To Comment |

        Yes I’m referring to the P22, which is made by Umarex just like these Uzis…as well as Colt’s newer .22 LR series and a few other crappy branded .22s.

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  24. John Rauwrote on January 12th, 2012 at 10:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Great! I like UZI submachine guns. It can be fired from open bolt!

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  25. Dwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 3:55 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I’m really not a fan of the “let’s make cool-looking high-priced .22 replicas of real guns!” movement in the industry. I mean really, aside from being an interesting conversation piece and a plinker, what good is a .22 micro uzi or .22 uzi carbine? If all someone wants is a plinker, go buy a regular rifle or pistol; it’s cheaper, probably more reliable, and very likely easier to get parts for.

    Also the next time i see absolutely anything in .22 labeled “tactical”, i fear i may lose my mind.

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    • bbmgresponded to D on January 07th, 2012 at 11:41 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I think the humble 22LR has its place in a “tactical” environment.

      Exhibit A – the SV-99 “sniper” rifle: http://izhevsk.club.guns.ru/eng/sv99.html

      Those nutty Russians field this because at urban ranges it is an effective enough round, because “If a target is closer than 100 meters, You don’t have to defeat a ballistic jacket. An exposed neck, face or head is just enough!” – and fitted with an adequate suppressor the noise will go unnoticed.

      Exhibit B – The MGV-176 submachinegun: http://world.guns.ru/smg/yu/mgv-176-e.html

      Like the American 180 on which it is based, this spits out 22LR at a tremendous rate which more than compensates for the individual round’s relatively low muzzle energy. It’s the equivalent of a “buckshot hose” if you will, just the ticket for CQB.

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      • bbmgresponded to bbmg on January 09th, 2012 at 9:18 pm Link To Comment |

        I agree in the send that even a UK legal limit 12 ft/lb air rifle is capable of being lethal, of course this doesn’t mean its the right tool for the job. 22LR remains “marginal” against a human target and for a concealed urban sniper, the Russians have lots of 9x39mm subsonic rifles are doubtless a better tool for the job unless absolute stealth is required.

        As for the MGV-176, it would be interesting to see how it performs against armour. The American 180 offered the “jackhammer effect” which supposedly caused body armour to fail through concentrated fire, certainly repeated hits in rapid succession are capable of chewing through targets that would resist a single round. This effect is of course diminshed at longer ranges as group size increases.

        Over distance, it would again have to be compared to a shotgun with buckshot as opposed to an assault rifle. It can certainly be argued though that a high volume of small calibre fire can be more effective in many situations than low volume large calibre fire. It might not go through armour, or even most urban cover, but there are certainly enough rounds in the air to ensure a high probability that one of them will hit a vital unarmoured spot.

        Not a new idea either – William DeLisle, designer of the notorious suppressed carbine that bears his name, proposed a 22LR machinegun for jungle warfare back in 1943: http://www.scribd.com/doc/41365896/Death-Delivering-DeLisle (last paragraph of page 31)

        For the AR lovers:

        http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/am15-full-auto-22lr-m16-upper-receiver-with-220-round-drum/

        :D

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      • El Freddioresponded to bbmg on January 09th, 2012 at 11:31 pm Link To Comment |

        I dunno about spraying and hoping to hit a non-armoured part. Still, that De Lisle idea has given me this image of a patrol or base guards in the jungle trying to find the guy who just mowed down part of a squad with his supressed auto .22. Yep, Armchair Commander as all hell, but that’s what I am :P .

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      • El Freddioresponded to bbmg on January 09th, 2012 at 12:15 pm Link To Comment |

        The SV-99 is used mainly for lights and dogs. It can kill a person, but the Russian’s probably use the SV-98 or something else for anti-personal. Also, having the SV-98, would allow the operative to take a body shot, if they needed to.
        The MVG-176 wouldn’t be so good as in Military CQB, as if an enemy has armour, you’re not gonna get through it before they get a shot you (granted, in A-stan and Iraq that isn’t a big deal) but if you do have to engage hostiles at a longer range, you might be in a bit of trouble. In Police CQB, accuracy is a must, and going full auto would be a bad idea with the MVG-176 as it would be hard to get short bursts, even if the recoil was second to none. Also, the pan magazine wouldn’t be ideal for going through doorways. It could work, that’s for sure, but there are better options in my opinion. Plus, I doubt that much ammo would be needed (but it would be nice :D )
        (PS, not trying to say you’re wrong in anyway, just my $0.02)

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  26. Westwrote on January 07th, 2012 at 5:33 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Who is the intended market for these .22 replicas?
    People with way too much disposable income im guessing.

    Whatever yanks your crank but I just dont get it.
    Now if it was F/A with a 50 rd mag then we would be talking.

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    • Steve (The Firearm Blog)responded to West on January 07th, 2012 at 10:59 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      They are plinkers. Just designed for fun at the range. Real UZIs are expensive.

      Their serious purpose would be as a practice for UZI owners. UZIs are quite popular with machine gun competitors.

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      • buster Charlieresponded to Steve (The Firearm Blog) on January 08th, 2012 at 4:17 pm Link To Comment |

        The problem I see is the “rifle” version is not much cheaper than the Century 9mm Rifle.

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