Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


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  • KC

    I just noticed the MOE-K grip in the older articles that were before the grip was announced.

    This is a rifle that’s grown on me since I first saw it

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/ Steve (The Firearm Blog)

      ha, I did not notice that!

  • Matt in AZ

    The heavy glove on the support hand makes me wonder how hot it gets when you rip off a mag or three? “The Honey Badger don’t give a shit” but the glove-less operator might. All that sound suppression is bound to give off heat and I wonder how it would fair against the m4 melt down test.

    • charles222

      That’s not a “heavy glove”. That’s a regular ol Nomex flight glove; keeps your hands from being melted off by things other than hot rifles. ;)

  • Flounder

    Hey Matt I’m sure it gets hot just shooting in semi but this guy probably has a full auto version. The three casings in the air seem to agree with me as well. but I could still be wrong. I can’t see the fire selector cause it isn’t an ambidextrous one but oh well.

    • bandito762

      Yeah I was thinking that it was weird that he was wearing one glove, but I guess if he is on full auto it makes sense. If this is supposed to be a cqb gun I would bet overheating wouldn’t be an issue because you aren’t going to dump 4 magazines through it doing suppressing fire.

  • Lance

    Nice

  • GregK

    Until I can buy one, WTF is the point of all this marketing?

    Building buzz is great, but lots of companies in this industry can’t seem to figure out that endless teasing doesn’t buy you anything but frustration from customers.

    Magpul was once the worst offender, but they’ve gotten better. At SHOT last year, one of their executives flat out stated that Apple was their new model going forward (i.e. STFU until it is ready to ship).

    Ruger is easily the best. They announce and release within a few weeks. Of course, the downside is that they announce and release Ruger class products…

    AAC is the worst of the worst in this regard (and the Freedom Group sucks at it in general). How many times will they trot out the much improved ACR that weighs less, has a better rail and magnesium lower.. all while claiming us civilians aren’t good enough to buy one? What happened to that badass Rem 700 in the modular chassis with the integrated suppressor that factory pinup girl was hanging off of last year? Now we get the Honey Badger; a product you will never be able to buy, but damn if AAC isn’t going to give you nearly unlimited, high-resolution, well produced photos of HSLD guys shooting!

    Steve Jobs had it 100% correct: “Real artists ship.”

    • Komrad

      I don’t think that’s fair to Ruger. Ruger makes dependable guns that are worth what they sell them for. There is the 10/22 which is one of the best and most popular .22 rifles out there. The mk. I, II, and III were/are all extremely popular pistols. The P series is affordable and dependable. Their revolvers are well made and built like tanks and cost far less than S&W equivalents.

      • Bob Z Moose

        Excellent point, Komrad. Let’s not forget that Ruger was the orginal makers of the super tough hunting single and double-actions (which became the huge trend in handgun hunting in the last two decades). Their sporting rifles are comparable, if not better, than those from Remington, Savage, T/C, ect. AND cost the same or less than rifles with similar features. All the Rugers I’ve shot have been accurate and well built guns whose only limitations were my shooting abilities.

        The Mini-14 has never been en vouge with the taticool crowd, but works very well for what it was designed for (a handy rifle for field use). It’s gotten better with the improvements that Ruger have made to the rifle in recent years (medium weitght barrels, shorter barrels, hi-cap factory mags) have given the AR and AK platforms a run for their money in terms of civilian tactical needs.

    • G

      “What happened to that badass Rem 700 in the modular chassis with the integrated suppressor that factory pinup girl was hanging off of last year?”

      Just wait a couple of months and you will be able to build your own badass Remington..

      Cadex designed the RACS (Remington Arms Chassis System) for Remington. Cadex is supposed to release its own improved version of the short action chassis system, the Cadex Strike 30, in February next year.

      But the chassis system is going to be quite expensive:
      http://www.drakeassociates.us/content/strike30

    • Flounder

      Greg half of the things you pointed out are concept rifles. Magpul was showing of firearm designs and almost never a complete rifle. The FMG and PDR they showed off were just mock ups. But on their accessories They have been slackin this year…

      Maybe that’s what happens when you loose your founding members and get bought out. XP

      And the modular RSACS platform is being mad in VERY SMALL NUMBERS. Last I hear Remington had only delivered 20. with 20 more scheduled and no more… This is what I have heard and nothing else. And that is the XM2010 not the 300BLK integrally suppressed one that was being shown off.

      Some of the marketing is an attempt to get someone to pick up the concept and actually build it. If they had 1000 people walk up to the booth with the 300BLK suppressed rifle with 10 grand each (the price of the 2 civilian available XM 2010′s, yes only 2 are available) then maybe they would have considered biulding it.

      That is why there is all this hype for vaporware products exist.

  • Salient

    Too damn long for a CQB optimized weapon, sure it’s better than what we have, but that doesn’t mean it’s great.

    Still, it’s a start in the right direction.

    • Sian

      For a suppressed CQB weapon, it isn’t terribly long either. I bet it’s barely any longer than a MP5SD. To get much shorter you’ll have to go with a bullpup configuration (P90) but with the Honey Badger you have operator familiarity with the M4 platform, so minimal extra training necessary.

    • http://www.tenpoundmonkey.com JasonM

      the HB is 2.5″ shorter than an MP5SD, both with stocks fully extended.

    • W

      apparently the 300 black out cartridge, when applied with a sound suppressor and subsonic cartridge, is quieter than the MP5SD…which is utterly phenomenal.

      With new innovations in technology such as this, submachine guns are teetering closer and closer to being binned (much to my delight since i hate SMGs).

  • R

    The Honey Badger is still in prototype stage and as seen does not have heat shields in the hand guard/rail. This will be upgraded as the project moves forward (per AAC). One glove was a result of multiple mag dumps of both sub and supersonic ammo for evaluating reliablity and controllablity in full auto fire.
    As critical as the internet is, I’m surprised the sunglasses and croakies haven’t been analyzed!

  • Jon

    Lol, great title.

  • http://tomcatshanger.livejournal.com/ Tomcatshanger

    Hey look, they fixed the stupid aimpoint low mount issue. Wonder how the co-witness is now?

  • Matt G.

    So let me get this straight, you design a rifle with the shortest possible stock and receiver tube, then extend it all the way and place your cheek weld on the uncomfortable end of the tube?

    I just do not get all these geniuses I see at the range who pay extra for compact adjustable stocks and then pull them all the freakin way out and are holding the gun way back and throwing themselves off balance and losing gun control.

  • RLG

    It is obvious that some of those who are posting comments do not understand the concept, the design, or the utilization.

    1. I took the photo for an upcoming article in a mainstream publication and shot several hundred rounds through the Honey Badger.

    2. The Honey Badger is comfortable to shoot.

    3. If you didn’t place your cheek against the shortened buffer tube, where would you place it?

    4. This is a full auto prototype and, as was posted above, it does not have a heat shield inside the rail. The follow-on design will.

    5. The concept is to replace legacy CQB platforms, such as the MP5, MP5-SD, and other compact platforms. The .300 AAC BLACKOUT cartridge offers a .30 caliber, 220 gr. sub-sonic round that has significantly increased terminal ballistics over the MP5-SD. It performs this function exceptionally well!

    6. By changing magazines and using a 125 gr. super sonic round, the rifle becomes a legitimate mid-range battle rifle. This is something that the 9mm round can’t do.

    7. The .300 AAC BLACKOUT round is “battle tested” with certain groups using the 9″ M4 uppers that AAC does offer to the public!

    8. The Aimpoint T-1 is, without a doubt, the best red dot optic available on the market today.

    9. The “buzz” is not necessarily about marketing. The platform is well suited to law enforcement, not just military units.

    10. The Honey Badger, along with platforms from at lease three other manufacturers, has been submitted to XXXXXX in response to a specific solicitation. It really doesn’t matter if you like it or not. It was not built for you!

    Get over it cause the Honey Badger don’t care!

    • Salient

      It’s a AR that shoots a different calibre. Not exactly rocket science.

      • Duray

        Actually, it’s a lot like rocket science. Getting 2 loads that are vastly different ballistically to cycle through a 9″ integrally suppressed barrel on full auto, and stabilize accurately at the same time, is not entirely unlike rocket science. You have pressure curves, propellant burn rates, gas flow, twist rates, etc.

      • W

        so how much research have you done of the 300 black out? obviously not enough.

  • Andy

    “It really doesn’t matter if you like it or not. It was not built for you!”

    And yet you’re writing about it for a mainstream publication.

  • William C.

    Maybe I’m just ignorant on this matter, but when it comes to military use what is the advantage of such a rather specialized QBC cartridge?

    If the need is for something more effective than 5.56x45mm in QCB, yet still capable of being effective out to a few hundred meters, wouldn’t something like the 6.8x43mm caliber be better suited?

    I can certainly see a place for the .300 ACC in the LE and civilian sectors, but when it comes to the military, it seems like alternatives provide more versatility.

    This length of this doesn’t quite fit the “PDW” image I have in my mind either. If your looking for something to issue to vehicle crews for example, it doesn’t seem to offer much of an improvement over the Mk.18, or Mk.16 CQC.

    • Sian

      specialized? It has generally the same capabilities as 7.62×39, enhanced by about 60 years of cartridge design. It’s not going to be great past 400m or so, but neither is our 5.56.

    • Alex-mac

      Maybe a Steyr Aug/MSAR STG-556 caliber change kit can be made. Then we’ll get a CQB rifle shorter than an MP5.

      • DW

        How about FS2000 Caliber change kit for an Ambi CQB weapon?

      • Alex-mac

        @DW
        The Steyr Aug was designed to varying length barrels that are quick detachable. And the U.S manufacture MSAR variant uses AR mags. It’s patents have also expired. So I assume it would be easier to design a kit for.

        FN might show interest in this calibre, FN is after all responsible for some innovative bullpups, as well a innovative calibre. So it’s certainly possible. But I’m surprised FN hasn’t made a PDW/CQB optimized FS2000 yet, perhaps the design isn’t amenable to short barrels. More likely they just may not want it to compete with their PS90.

    • W

      “If your looking for something to issue to vehicle crews for example, it doesn’t seem to offer much of an improvement over the Mk.18, or Mk.16 CQC.”

      Actually, it offers a significant improvement over the mk 18 because of its cartridge. While the 5.56 is adversely affected by the shortened barrel, the 300 black out is designed for this.

      The 6.8 caliber would be inadequate in a short barrel, simply because of the high velocity of the round, making a sound suppressor ineffective, and its horrendous muzzle blast!

      • charles222

        Interesting. This caliber uses regular M4/AR15 magazines, right? Seems like it’d be very easy to upgrade the entire Mk18 inventory just by buying new uppers if that’s the case.

      • W

        yes, based off of the research i have done, that is one of the advantages of the caliber. I know the 6.8 doesn’t integrate optimally with the AR15 magazines.