Another ACC Honey Badger Photo
I fall in love with at least one gun girl gun a week ... but I swear Honey Badger is the ONE.
[Hat Tip: AAC Blog]
I fall in love with at least one gun girl gun a week ... but I swear Honey Badger is the ONE.
[Hat Tip: AAC Blog]
All about the Honey Badger:
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0I would eat a puppy to get that stock.
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0would you eat a honey badger?
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0If they taste like honey I would.
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0The honey badger is pretty sexy lookin I’ll give you that one steve.
And 18D everyone is comparing them just cause they seem equal when you just look at Muzzle energy and bullet weight with subsonic ammo.
BUT it is comparing apples to oranges… Cause rifles are rifles and pistols are for getting a rifle.
or when you can’t have a rifle.
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0Okay, so the Beretta ARX-160 may not sound as sexy as ‘Honey Badger’, but I would make some serious moves on her if I could.
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0I have fooled around with her before, she is hot but she ain’t no Honey Badger.
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0Why is everyone comparing the .300 BLK to 9mm and .45? With subsonic there might be some questions, but most operators aren’t going to use subsonic. When I was in Group we never used subsonic in our MP5′s. If we did, the guns certainly would have been quieter, that’s true, but a rifle round gives the shooter substantially more capability than a handgun round.
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0plus with the blackout it doesnt require a magazine well retrofit or a new lower… just a new upper and mag.
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0Honey Badger must have been drinking HK beer when designing that HK’ish sliding buttstock and almost HK Navy model like pistol grip. They look good on a AR platform.
The .300 Blackout has been a great way to get JSOC to buy and inventory another caliber of ammunition and weapons.
I wouldnt want to carry one. After sentry removal or whatever if you got into a fire fight trying during exfil you’d be stuck with a weapon that has the ballistics of a black powder cartridge weapon. Can it punch through the latest Russian body armour? No. Any CRISAT test results? No. Its good for tier 2 and 3 Hajis only.
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0Like I stated above, just because it CAN fire subsonic ammo, what keeps the user from using full powered rifle ammo if they need to? The real question is how much performance does 300 blk have out of a very short barrel compared to a hot loading of 10mm auto out of the same sized gun?
I don’t have the figures in. front of me, could someone compare an ak pistol with a six inch barrel to a ten mm. ?
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0Sorry for the double post, please delete the parent post it gave me an error when I posted it?
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0Like I stated above, just because it CAN fire subsonic ammo, what keeps the user from using full powered rifle ammo if they need to? The real question is how much performance does 300 blk have out of a very short barrel compared to a hot loading of 10mm auto out of the same sized gun?
According to a draco mini owner, 7.5″ barrels will produce around1080 ft-lbs at the muzzle with military 7.62 x39, and 300 blk is suppose to be similar.
According to ballistics by the inch, Out of a similar barrel 10mm will push around 860 ft-lbs.
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0seems like you could load it with many different types of bullet beyond what any pistol caliber would allow including match or API. Besides at a longer distances the spitzer bullet will out perform a 10mm. Also seems that at a medium distance it would be more accurate
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0This gun rocks! I would love to try one out some day with sub rounds, but I just dont like that color, maybe if it were more of a tan, but but you cant go wrong with black either. But I guess thats why they call it the honey badger
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0I don’t get it. What does .300 Blackout subsonic offer that the 9mm it is intended to replace doesn’t? The bullet is smaller across, but about 70 grains heavier. If you want a subsonic round, then use a .45 ACP.
Supersonic I understand. Some nice expanding hunting rounds in that would make short work of anyone you had to shoot.
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0In a pinch, you can load a supersonic magazine and get a lot more power. Can’t very well do that with a pistol cartridge smg.
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0The bullet used in Remington’s subsonic ammunition, for 300 AAC Blackout, is the 220 grain Sierra MatchKing:
http://300aacblackout.com/resources/PDS%2021502-%20A300AACM8%20300%20AAC%20BLK%20220-gr%20OTM-1.pdf
http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=bullets&page=bc&stock_num=2240&bullettype=0
That bullet is also used in the Mk 248 mk 1 sniper cartridge.
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0its a lot easier to make an armor piercing subsonic .30 rifle round than to make an armor piercing subsonic .45acp round, and the ballistics are tons better past 100 yards.
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0300blk has a smaller diameter than 45 so (subsonic)it’s quieter. Also the shape of the bullet will allow it to tumble in soft tissue creating a much larger wound cavity b/c subsonic hollowpoints do not expand as well as the hotter rounds.
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0Looks cool.
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0would a POSP 4×24 be a good idea on this gun?
That way you’d get a bullet drop compensator tailored to the 7.62×39 which is the same bullet drop as the blackout, right?
it’s only 4x and illuminated so you might be able to use it like an ACOG…
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0Supersonic Blackout should have less bullet drop, comparing apples to apples because of its low drag projectile. the subsonic round’s drop would be totally different though. Seems like a reflex optic+swing-away magnifier might be the way to go with this setup.
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0No, this thing is meant for close quarters work. You really don’t want to be running a magnified optic for that sort of business.
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0why no pics of the gun girl you fell in love with?
I also think this gun is pretty neat.
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0There are many, you don’t need to see photos of them all
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Honey Badger must have been drinking HK beer when designing that HK’ish sliding buttstock and almost HK Navy model like pistol grip. They look good on a AR platform.
The .300 Blackout has been a great way to get JSOC to buy and inventory another caliber of ammunition and weapons.
I wouldnt want to carry one. After sentry removal or whatever if you got into a fire fight trying during exfil you’d be stuck with a weapon that has the ballistics of a black powder cartridge weapon. Can it punch through the latest Russian body armour? No. Any CRISAT test results? No. Its good for tier 2 and 3 Hajis only.
Like I stated above, just because it CAN fire subsonic ammo, what keeps the user from using full powered rifle ammo if they need to? The real question is how much performance does 300 blk have out of a very short barrel compared to a hot loading of 10mm auto out of the same sized gun?
I don’t have the figures in. front of me, could someone compare an ak pistol with a six inch barrel to a ten mm. ?
Sorry for the double post, please delete the parent post it gave me an error when I posted it?
Like I stated above, just because it CAN fire subsonic ammo, what keeps the user from using full powered rifle ammo if they need to? The real question is how much performance does 300 blk have out of a very short barrel compared to a hot loading of 10mm auto out of the same sized gun?
According to a draco mini owner, 7.5″ barrels will produce around1080 ft-lbs at the muzzle with military 7.62 x39, and 300 blk is suppose to be similar.
According to ballistics by the inch, Out of a similar barrel 10mm will push around 860 ft-lbs.
seems like you could load it with many different types of bullet beyond what any pistol caliber would allow including match or API. Besides at a longer distances the spitzer bullet will out perform a 10mm. Also seems that at a medium distance it would be more accurate
All about the Honey Badger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
why no pics of the gun girl you fell in love with?
I also think this gun is pretty neat.
There are many, you don’t need to see photos of them all
Looks cool.
The honey badger is pretty sexy lookin I’ll give you that one steve.
And 18D everyone is comparing them just cause they seem equal when you just look at Muzzle energy and bullet weight with subsonic ammo.
BUT it is comparing apples to oranges… Cause rifles are rifles and pistols are for getting a rifle.
or when you can’t have a rifle.
Why is everyone comparing the .300 BLK to 9mm and .45? With subsonic there might be some questions, but most operators aren’t going to use subsonic. When I was in Group we never used subsonic in our MP5′s. If we did, the guns certainly would have been quieter, that’s true, but a rifle round gives the shooter substantially more capability than a handgun round.
plus with the blackout it doesnt require a magazine well retrofit or a new lower… just a new upper and mag.
I would eat a puppy to get that stock.
would you eat a honey badger?
If they taste like honey I would.
This gun rocks! I would love to try one out some day with sub rounds, but I just dont like that color, maybe if it were more of a tan, but but you cant go wrong with black either. But I guess thats why they call it the honey badger
I don’t get it. What does .300 Blackout subsonic offer that the 9mm it is intended to replace doesn’t? The bullet is smaller across, but about 70 grains heavier. If you want a subsonic round, then use a .45 ACP.
Supersonic I understand. Some nice expanding hunting rounds in that would make short work of anyone you had to shoot.
In a pinch, you can load a supersonic magazine and get a lot more power. Can’t very well do that with a pistol cartridge smg.
its a lot easier to make an armor piercing subsonic .30 rifle round than to make an armor piercing subsonic .45acp round, and the ballistics are tons better past 100 yards.
The bullet used in Remington’s subsonic ammunition, for 300 AAC Blackout, is the 220 grain Sierra MatchKing:
http://300aacblackout.com/resources/PDS%2021502-%20A300AACM8%20300%20AAC%20BLK%20220-gr%20OTM-1.pdf
http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=bullets&page=bc&stock_num=2240&bullettype=0
That bullet is also used in the Mk 248 mk 1 sniper cartridge.
300blk has a smaller diameter than 45 so (subsonic)it’s quieter. Also the shape of the bullet will allow it to tumble in soft tissue creating a much larger wound cavity b/c subsonic hollowpoints do not expand as well as the hotter rounds.
Okay, so the Beretta ARX-160 may not sound as sexy as ‘Honey Badger’, but I would make some serious moves on her if I could.
I have fooled around with her before, she is hot but she ain’t no Honey Badger.
would a POSP 4×24 be a good idea on this gun?
That way you’d get a bullet drop compensator tailored to the 7.62×39 which is the same bullet drop as the blackout, right?
it’s only 4x and illuminated so you might be able to use it like an ACOG…
Supersonic Blackout should have less bullet drop, comparing apples to apples because of its low drag projectile. the subsonic round’s drop would be totally different though. Seems like a reflex optic+swing-away magnifier might be the way to go with this setup.
No, this thing is meant for close quarters work. You really don’t want to be running a magnified optic for that sort of business.