Strange AR-15 Magazine Spotted in Philipines

A reader noticed this M16 magazine, being carried by a militiaman, in a video clip on Al Jazeera.

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The magazine's geometry is like none I can recall seeing. A couple of people suggested it could be a C-Products 7.62x39mm AR-15 magazine, but it is definitely not (see photo below).

C-Products 7.62x39mm AR-15 magazine

Can anyone identify it? I think it is probably manufactured by the cottage gun industry in the Philippines.

[ Many thanks to James for emailing in the photo. ]

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  1. Charleswrote on November 06th, 2011 at 12:07 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    That is an AR15A2 lower with an AR15A1 upper.

    Notice the rear sights…..

    Charles.

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  2. caloolwrote on October 14th, 2011 at 11:16 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    wow, that’s nuts, seems like if you are running you might snag it on something and if you do that enough you could probably break your gun and have your mag falling out every ten seconds!

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  3. Nadnerbuswrote on October 13th, 2011 at 5:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I can’t help but think when I look at it, that rifle needs some cialis.

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  4. Netforcewrote on October 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I know there’s a banana clip magazine out there but this is ridiculous! Haha.

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  5. Andrew Racekwrote on October 13th, 2011 at 8:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Good lord think of the malfunctions that’ll cause

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  6. Lancewrote on October 13th, 2011 at 7:24 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Its still a 5.56mm M-16A1 but the mag was a locally made production for Islamic Militias probably custom made for a small solder who has problems for shooting with 30rd mags in the prone position.

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    • Asclepiusresponded to Lance on October 20th, 2011 at 8:04 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I think the caged magazine release makes it an A2

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  7. Hrachya Hayrapetyanwrote on October 13th, 2011 at 5:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Wow! This AR must be chambered for 8mm Lebel :) :))))))))

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  8. Philipwrote on October 12th, 2011 at 11:49 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Lets see the magazine pouch for it.

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  9. spamspamwrote on October 12th, 2011 at 10:57 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    My sources have confirmed that indeed the magazine was manufactured by the cottage gun industry in the Philippines, specifically in the south in the island of Mindanao. My sources also told me that these mags hold 80 rounds.

    I am currently trying to get information on additional specs and their reliability and if anyone has any testimonies or reports about the extent of reliability in the field.

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  10. Stevewrote on October 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Any chance it’s a large capacity magazine that’s been, uh, modified? Though I’m not sure you could bend one to that extent and still have it function.

    If it’s a production model, it’s pushing 90°. Would the spring even be able to work in that?

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    • 6677responded to Steve on October 13th, 2011 at 2:40 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      It would be a hard push to do it reliably but a spring would be able to get around there. Whether or not the spring is the same classic single spring design we are used to seeing in magazines or not is another question. A dual spring set-up can easily get around those sorts of corners.

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    • Mikeresponded to Steve on October 13th, 2011 at 6:03 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Look close, that’s beyond 90 degrees. I’d put it at around 100.

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      • Joshresponded to Mike on October 17th, 2011 at 4:21 am Link To Comment |

        …that’s beyond 90 degrees. I’d put it at around 100.

        Importing the picture into AutoCAD and measuring the angle yields a result of 88 degrees. I have to trust that result better than your ability to eyeball it.

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  11. spamspamwrote on October 12th, 2011 at 8:40 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I am from the Philippines, and I have seen these mags before (In the news and one in a police checkpoint being carried by a policeman). However I do not know how many rounds they hold and who manufactures them.

    I have a few sources in the firearm industry here and can ask them about it.

    The M16 is a very ubiquitous here and is licence built the local manufacturer Elisco Tools.

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  1. spamspamwrote on October 12th, 2011 at 10:57 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    My sources have confirmed that indeed the magazine was manufactured by the cottage gun industry in the Philippines, specifically in the south in the island of Mindanao. My sources also told me that these mags hold 80 rounds.

    I am currently trying to get information on additional specs and their reliability and if anyone has any testimonies or reports about the extent of reliability in the field.

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  2. spamspamwrote on October 12th, 2011 at 8:40 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I am from the Philippines, and I have seen these mags before (In the news and one in a police checkpoint being carried by a policeman). However I do not know how many rounds they hold and who manufactures them.

    I have a few sources in the firearm industry here and can ask them about it.

    The M16 is a very ubiquitous here and is licence built the local manufacturer Elisco Tools.

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  3. Philipwrote on October 12th, 2011 at 11:49 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Lets see the magazine pouch for it.

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  4. Lancewrote on October 13th, 2011 at 7:24 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Its still a 5.56mm M-16A1 but the mag was a locally made production for Islamic Militias probably custom made for a small solder who has problems for shooting with 30rd mags in the prone position.

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    • Asclepiusresponded to Lance on October 20th, 2011 at 8:04 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      I think the caged magazine release makes it an A2

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  5. Nadnerbuswrote on October 13th, 2011 at 5:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I can’t help but think when I look at it, that rifle needs some cialis.

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  6. Hrachya Hayrapetyanwrote on October 13th, 2011 at 5:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Wow! This AR must be chambered for 8mm Lebel :) :))))))))

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  7. Stevewrote on October 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Any chance it’s a large capacity magazine that’s been, uh, modified? Though I’m not sure you could bend one to that extent and still have it function.

    If it’s a production model, it’s pushing 90°. Would the spring even be able to work in that?

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    • Mikeresponded to Steve on October 13th, 2011 at 6:03 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Look close, that’s beyond 90 degrees. I’d put it at around 100.

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      • Joshresponded to Mike on October 17th, 2011 at 4:21 am Link To Comment |

        …that’s beyond 90 degrees. I’d put it at around 100.

        Importing the picture into AutoCAD and measuring the angle yields a result of 88 degrees. I have to trust that result better than your ability to eyeball it.

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    • 6677responded to Steve on October 13th, 2011 at 2:40 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      It would be a hard push to do it reliably but a spring would be able to get around there. Whether or not the spring is the same classic single spring design we are used to seeing in magazines or not is another question. A dual spring set-up can easily get around those sorts of corners.

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  8. Charleswrote on November 06th, 2011 at 12:07 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    That is an AR15A2 lower with an AR15A1 upper.

    Notice the rear sights…..

    Charles.

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  9. caloolwrote on October 14th, 2011 at 11:16 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    wow, that’s nuts, seems like if you are running you might snag it on something and if you do that enough you could probably break your gun and have your mag falling out every ten seconds!

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  10. Andrew Racekwrote on October 13th, 2011 at 8:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Good lord think of the malfunctions that’ll cause

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  11. Netforcewrote on October 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I know there’s a banana clip magazine out there but this is ridiculous! Haha.

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