Valtro PM5 12 Gauge Tactical Magazine Fed Shotgun
Andrew discovered that the Italian-made Valtro PM5 12 magazine-fed 12 gauge shotguns are once again going to be imported into the US.
Andrew reports on the Valtro PM5 from IWA '11
The Valtro PM5 was last imported about 10 years ago. They are, as Andrew says, basic. No fibre optic sights, fancy stocks or picatinny rails. They are reputed to be well made and reliable which is reflected by the high prices for which they are sold for on gun auction websites. The going price seems to be over $1000!
I picked up PM5 back in the 80′s before the ban.
Only $200.oo. Also found three mags and a choke tube and it fitted with a taticle red dot. I beleive that the later models offered ghost rings and a flash suppressor BEFORE DISTRIBUTION STOPPED HOWEVER, i HAVE YET TO SEE ONE FOR MYSELF.
aLTHOUGH IT IS A UNIQUE WEAPON, IT IS IMPOSSIABLE TO LOCATE ACESSORIES AND THE sEGA 12 IS A FAR SUPERIOR OPTION AT A LOWER PRICE.
IN MY OPNION, tHE WEAPON WAS DESIGNED FOR COMBAT, NOT HOME DEFENCE WHICH MAKES IT UNSUITABLE FOR cqb OPERATIONS
iF vALTRO DOES MAKE A COMEBACK HERE IN THE STATES, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO COMPLEMENT IT WITH FULL ACESSORIES AND THEN SIMPLY PUT AWAY FOR ANOTHER YEAR
Oh btw thanks for the quick answer!
Would love to modify my mossy bullpup to accept this one.
Got an eta?
IAmLegend, no
I echo the others in that this article could have been written a little better about the price the PM5 currently fetches on the used, collectible auction market, as opposed to what the MSRP will be or was.
I own one of these. The LOP is very long. It is very well made; I’ve read these are actually made by Benelli.
Being able to quickly change ammo would be a bonus for law enforcement. Less than lethal to lethal, etc. It also makes a great trunk gun. In California you can have a shotgun, unloaded in your trunk. Keep the mags charged and in the main compartment. Loaded shotgun in a few seconds.
never mind my last comment I am apparently an idiot they are pump action so I don’t have a clue why they would cost so much more.
The fact that the gun is semi-auto and has a magazine are probably a good part of the price difference. Also it is combat shotgun and apparently there is very low supply for them in the US.
I would note that the price mentioned is the current going rate on gun auction sites and not what the new imported MSRP is, and I bet the auction value goes down once people start hearing they will be able to purchase new ones.
I believe what the Valtro guys would say is : the PM5 was not designed for your convenience.
The PM5 and RO5 were designed as full-on military shotguns, and in that regard have done very well the past 30 years. Anything they sell on the civilian market is just a bonus.
Changing mags is way faster than reloading one shell at a time, so in a tactical situation that gives you the edge.
Seems to me that it’s the used going price that’s 1000$, not the suggested retail for the newly imported ones. Also seems that some people need better reading comprehension.
$1000 for a standard capacity pump action? Heh, heh someone has spent a little too much time sniffing the Hoppe’s no. 9.
So it’s an expensive 870 with a blocky awkward box magazine instead of a unobtrusive tube mag under the barrel. >head is shaking<
Importing this gun NOW is just going to be a repeat of the Saiga mess. Example, you can’t legally run the 7rd magazine in the PM5 without playing the 922r game. A 7rd detachable box mag would be TWO naughty features for a shotgun.
Remington or Mossberg should just start making a mag fed pump/auto so that we can stop paying a grand for something simple
BTW, Steve, how about the classic tube-fed shotgun, the RO-5 ? Will it also be imported into the US ?
Aurelien, sorry, I do not know.
DoubtingThomas : the PM5 shotgun is much older than the Saiga 12K.
These may me banned with the coming ATF ruling on shotguns..
The Saiga Saga Part II: The Pump Edition. I going to sit this one out too.
Why s much for a Mossberg that has a detachable mag? Iam a poor man who works with guns and I get so bewhilderd that every new gun is $1000-$5000. Make them cheap so every one can enjoy it and make more progun shooters.
I know they arnt made over $1000 the HK 416 is about $600 to make for military buyers.
Like most of the other Italian shotguns, it is overpriced. I fired my friend’s Valtro someyears ago, not something special. LOP is too long for a small statured guy like myself, also the pump handle is too forward for easy use.Not a pleasant experience, too much recoil. It was impresive enough 10 -15 years ago, macho looks and the only one with a removable mag,but not now. Overall quality is good, but not worth the extra $$$ IMHO. Maybe for a…collector of shotties ( like myself) it is exotic enough. The magazine is steel i believe, sturdy enough, but not as good as is the Saiga 12 mag for sure.
Valtro makes sturdy, reliable shotguns. They have been in use in the French boarding units (Navy and Customs both) for the past 20 years.
I read “The going price seems to be over $1000!”
as “the gouging price”..
but i have to ask why? i can get a Mossberg 590 with equal capacity, just as reliable (i think) for half the price?
is the magazine whats behind the high price?
Well, when you consider that some brand new Saiga 12′s are going for $850 stock, the price isn’t too bad, especially if the quality and CDIF is already there.