The Firearm Blog friend and collaborator Andrew has just gotten back from his adventures in Tunisia and Lybia. You can read all about his adventures at Vuurwapen Blog. When in Tunisia he photographed a policeman's sidearm ...
Neither Andrew nor I can figure out what gun it is. We think it may be a flare gun. Can anybody identify it?
Note how the holster is only secured with a single belt loop. Professionals to the core!
Andy Myers, that description got me interesting in finding the self-defense gun you’re talking about. Is it a Osa PB-4M?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osa_(handgun)
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0“It’s a “non-lethal” GC 54 pistol”
YES, definiately.
Most of them are sold in France as free to own non-lethal selfdefence gun.
Made in Italy by Kimar (Armi Chiappa)
0 0Looks like a Tokagypt pistol. the 1950s Eygptian version of the Tokarev TT30. Given proximaty to Eygpt it’s a good guess.
0 0Looks like a FEG 32 or a French MAB 9mm pistol.
Or a CZ-52.
0 0L. nailed it, IMHO. good catch.
0 0Avery,
Yes it is. Well done for finding it, I had forgotten all about it until I saw this item. Looks completely different as to how I remembered it but now I’ve seen a photo that is definitely the one.
0 0Hmmmm maybe Makarov?
0 0it’s definitely not a PPK. At first, I thought it looked like a Tokegypt or a Helwan variant of the Beretta, but the guys seem right about the lack of a box magazine, so I dunno
0 0Cam- That’s clearly NOT a Sig P-series. Wow.
Anyway, looks to be a french rubber pellet pistol to me.
0 0L. had it right off the bat, it gc54 and u can see the extra shot shells on his belt.
0 0Not a makarove the grip and mag bottem are deffanty NOT a Makarov Libya never adopted Sovet pistols they went for Egyptian and Itilian pistols.
0 0Whoops, guess I need to post faster 
0 0Doesn’t look like there’s a magazine in the grip, which might suggest flare gun, but it also looks like it’s got a fancier hammer than I’ve normally seen on a flare gun. Could those be flares in the pouch right in front of the holster?
0 0Thought it could be something by FEG, looks like an AP7-MBP in .32
0 0Visiting Kazakhstan recently my friend produced a very similar looking pistol that he kept at home for his wife for self defence purposes.
It consisted of four barrels and a breaking action allowing the loading of four 45 ish cal cartridges into the exposed breeches. Very similar to the COP 357 derringer.
Ignition of the cartridges was by Piezo electric means, each barrel firing in sequence on each squeeze of the trigger. The bullet consisted of a resin ball with the intent being on momentarily disablement through infliction of pain.
I didn’t get the opportunity to fire it so I can’t testify as to effectiveness of the gun. If it’s all you’ve got then it’s better than nothing I suppose.
0 0I think u may be right about a flare gun the is no detachable magazine from the looks of the close up and the ammo for this pistol seems to be just in front of the holster.
0 0I want to say a SIG P-series pistol. But on further inspection, some stuff looks off in the close up. I dunno.
0 0SAPL GC54 12 bore/50mm rubber bullet gun. Worst double action trigger pull I have ever experienced. Even more abhorrent single action pull.
http://tecmagex.com/en/sapl-gc54-double-action-12-50.html
0 0Here’s a video of the single barrel variation of the GC54, called the GC27 :
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcb751_pistolet-de-defense-a-canon-interch_lifestyle
Both are shooting a black powder-loaded shortened 12 gauge cartridge (“gomm-cogne”, that could be translated as “gum-knock”).
Here’s a ballistic study for this cartridge :
http://www-cdu.dc.med.unipi.it/eates4/Abstracts/Trauma%20Abd-Pel-Tho/247.htm
0 0Has anyone heard of this pistol (GC54 ) beign used to fire handicap load shotgun shells with metal buckshot? I have one as a flare pistol
0 0Jamomatic by yourdead inc.
0 0From what I can tell it’s something Walther PP-ish. I do think it has a magazine, which looks kinda Walther style.
0 0It’s a “non-lethal” GC 54 pistol
“The GC 54 allows SAPL non lethal rubber bullets to be fired ideal for personnel protection, the neutralization and/or dispersion of minor disturbances at a close range (15 meters).
Technicals characteristics
Calibre: 12/50 SAPL
Capacity: 2 shots
Total length: 230 mm
Height: 180 mm
Thickness: 27 mm
Sights: fixed
Mecanism: simple action/double action
Locking: both sides
Firing point: 0,850 kg env
Empty weight: 1,200 kg env
Finitish: bronze black
Maximum range: 15 m”
Source: http://www.sapl-sas.com/en/produits/index/id:4/
Greetings from Germany,
Joerg
0 0The pistol looks like a Steyr GB 18.
0 0That is a mystery. The grip shape and the placement of the grip panel screw screams EAA Witness or other CZ-75 clone, but the nothing else makes sense.
0 0I think it is a fake. Someone is playing war. And the belt loop is appalling.
0 0I think it’s a French SAPL GC54, a pistol that shoot rubber bullets or shots.
http://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/images/produit/grande/Kit.gomm.cogne.GC54.jpg
It was a popular self-defense gun for a time (even if rather not effective), but I don’t know if it’s still sold without restriction.
0 0hk p7
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it’s definitely not a PPK. At first, I thought it looked like a Tokegypt or a Helwan variant of the Beretta, but the guys seem right about the lack of a box magazine, so I dunno
Cam- That’s clearly NOT a Sig P-series. Wow.
Anyway, looks to be a french rubber pellet pistol to me.
L. had it right off the bat, it gc54 and u can see the extra shot shells on his belt.
Not a makarove the grip and mag bottem are deffanty NOT a Makarov Libya never adopted Sovet pistols they went for Egyptian and Itilian pistols.
Hmmmm maybe Makarov?
Avery,
Yes it is. Well done for finding it, I had forgotten all about it until I saw this item. Looks completely different as to how I remembered it but now I’ve seen a photo that is definitely the one.
“It’s a “non-lethal” GC 54 pistol”
YES, definiately.
Most of them are sold in France as free to own non-lethal selfdefence gun.
Made in Italy by Kimar (Armi Chiappa)
Andy Myers, that description got me interesting in finding the self-defense gun you’re talking about. Is it a Osa PB-4M?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osa_(handgun)
Looks like a Tokagypt pistol. the 1950s Eygptian version of the Tokarev TT30. Given proximaty to Eygpt it’s a good guess.
hk p7
Looks like a FEG 32 or a French MAB 9mm pistol.
Or a CZ-52.
L. nailed it, IMHO. good catch.
Whoops, guess I need to post faster
Doesn’t look like there’s a magazine in the grip, which might suggest flare gun, but it also looks like it’s got a fancier hammer than I’ve normally seen on a flare gun. Could those be flares in the pouch right in front of the holster?
It’s a “non-lethal” GC 54 pistol
“The GC 54 allows SAPL non lethal rubber bullets to be fired ideal for personnel protection, the neutralization and/or dispersion of minor disturbances at a close range (15 meters).
Technicals characteristics
Calibre: 12/50 SAPL
Capacity: 2 shots
Total length: 230 mm
Height: 180 mm
Thickness: 27 mm
Sights: fixed
Mecanism: simple action/double action
Locking: both sides
Firing point: 0,850 kg env
Empty weight: 1,200 kg env
Finitish: bronze black
Maximum range: 15 m”
Source: http://www.sapl-sas.com/en/produits/index/id:4/
Greetings from Germany,
Joerg
The pistol looks like a Steyr GB 18.
That is a mystery. The grip shape and the placement of the grip panel screw screams EAA Witness or other CZ-75 clone, but the nothing else makes sense.
I think it is a fake. Someone is playing war. And the belt loop is appalling.
From what I can tell it’s something Walther PP-ish. I do think it has a magazine, which looks kinda Walther style.
Jamomatic by yourdead inc.
Visiting Kazakhstan recently my friend produced a very similar looking pistol that he kept at home for his wife for self defence purposes.
It consisted of four barrels and a breaking action allowing the loading of four 45 ish cal cartridges into the exposed breeches. Very similar to the COP 357 derringer.
Ignition of the cartridges was by Piezo electric means, each barrel firing in sequence on each squeeze of the trigger. The bullet consisted of a resin ball with the intent being on momentarily disablement through infliction of pain.
I didn’t get the opportunity to fire it so I can’t testify as to effectiveness of the gun. If it’s all you’ve got then it’s better than nothing I suppose.
Thought it could be something by FEG, looks like an AP7-MBP in .32
I think u may be right about a flare gun the is no detachable magazine from the looks of the close up and the ammo for this pistol seems to be just in front of the holster.
I want to say a SIG P-series pistol. But on further inspection, some stuff looks off in the close up. I dunno.
Here’s a video of the single barrel variation of the GC54, called the GC27 :
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcb751_pistolet-de-defense-a-canon-interch_lifestyle
Both are shooting a black powder-loaded shortened 12 gauge cartridge (“gomm-cogne”, that could be translated as “gum-knock”).
Here’s a ballistic study for this cartridge :
http://www-cdu.dc.med.unipi.it/eates4/Abstracts/Trauma%20Abd-Pel-Tho/247.htm
Has anyone heard of this pistol (GC54 ) beign used to fire handicap load shotgun shells with metal buckshot? I have one as a flare pistol
SAPL GC54 12 bore/50mm rubber bullet gun. Worst double action trigger pull I have ever experienced. Even more abhorrent single action pull.
http://tecmagex.com/en/sapl-gc54-double-action-12-50.html
I think it’s a French SAPL GC54, a pistol that shoot rubber bullets or shots.
http://www.armurerie-lavaux.com/images/produit/grande/Kit.gomm.cogne.GC54.jpg
It was a popular self-defense gun for a time (even if rather not effective), but I don’t know if it’s still sold without restriction.