UTS–15 Tactical Pump-Action Shotgun: Big and Badass
At the start of this year the only dual magazine shotgun I knew of was the almost mythical South African NEOSTEAD. In January Kel-Tec introduced the KSG bullpup Shotgun. Now Turkish firm UTAS has brought another mean-looking dual magazine pump-action shotgun to market.
Each of the UTS-15 magazines hold 7 rounds of 2.75" sized shot shells (it can also chamber 3" shells), giving it a 14+1 capacity. A selector allows the operator to select which magazine to feed or to automatically alternate between the magazines.
The body of the gun is made from carbon fiber to save weight. The lower receiver has a built-in button operated laser and light. It also comes with iron sights mounted on the full length picatinny rail.
The shotgun has an overall length of 27" and weight of 7.2 lbs.
**UPDATE: ** Great news. UTS will be manufacturing this shotgun in the United States for sale to consumers.
Here is an idea… if you like it, buy it. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Simple, huh?
Carbon fiber? This gun is going to be expensive, very expensive…
Is there really a market for these? I don’t see cops carrying them-it looks too overtly “military” for them, and well, the military hasn’t had a requirement for a high-capacity semiauto shotgun since the CAWS program was cancelled.
charles222, a lot of cops are using M4, AR-15s and other military-style rifles like the SIG5xx, I don’t think they are worried about looking paramilitary.
I’m sure they’ll have a lifetime warranty and be made in the USA like kel-tec right?
I guess my point is, in a serious self-defense weapon simplicity is important, less parts to break, less stuff to go wrong. This looks MAJORLY more complicated than the kel-tec, is this really an improvement?
Forget the fact that it’s larger and heavier, and forget that it’s most likely going to be more expensive…
When you pull the trigger, and it doesn’t go ‘bang’, will all the ‘extra features’ be worth it?
it would be so much better if it was semi-auto.. it’s not going to be inexpensive.. i can bet twice the KelTec..
@Mike, I was thinking something very similar. Has nothing to do with use and real lethality, but it “looks lethal”.
I was born and bred in California and I love my state, but the gun laws are just stupid.
As to the shotgun, in my non-technical view, I like it.
@cymond i can see the use because pushing against 6 rounds+spring is “hard” but i wonder if there’s some type of mechanism that will prevent you from firing if the handle is “locked forward” more info on the product is required!
@ish mr/mrs brady? from what i gather, an AR-15 should not be in civilian hands? especially with a 100 round beta-mag? what sport purpose is that? put a hole in a piece of paper at 100m? why not use air rifles or lasers (see talk about the olympic games)
cases where 8 rounds weren’t enough… N.Hollywood shoot out? ok. they had body armor, but still.
why that evil black metal/plastic? because wood is heavy. why lug around a 10lb gun when you can have one at 8?
“shoot-em-up video game” don’t you mean first person shooter? lets face it, people want cool. How many people would want a new car that looks like a Ford Model T? and never mind the fact that sometimes those configurations are the result of improving a design.
i will say that changes for the sake of change isn’t good. but i think there is innovation here. let others build on it. i wanna see more. i want to see where the future of weapon design is going.
Man, this thing looks so evil and scary that Californians will never get it. Also, how practical is it?
And it’s needed role in our society is for……what? A military role, perhaps. More fitting for paramilitary uses by our police forces in an America that craves the latest in whiz-bang stuff; yeah, they would love this. Any documented cases of needing more than 8 rounds from a 12 ga. pump (in capable hands)? And what “sporting purpose” does this fulfill? WHY do new firearms all look like they were cloned from a shoot-em-up video game? Looks like a shotgun befitting MMA cage fighters. Or Thunderdome. And it looks cumbersome for incomers from a Station #8 high house. Give me blued steel and walnut with fitment and finish. Give me an 870 or an older M37. I can take out bad guys, defend my home, and shoot a round of skeet on the weekend if I choose. And the sight of me and my shogun won’t raise any eyebrows or alarm the neighbors.
What’s with all the criticism? No one even has one yet. Yes, it is 9/10 of an inch longer than the Kel-Tec, but how much does 1 inch really matter? Yes, it certainly looks bulky, but it’s fairly light at 7.2 pounds.
UTS-15 possible pros: automatic feed switch, integrated light & laser, lower bore axis due to magazines above barrel (?).
Kel-Tec possible pros: probably cheaper, more convenient loading.
Also, look at the round-counter in the last picture. That stud sticking up is part of the follower. Look at the 2nd-to-last picture. The stud/follower moves along a track until the muzzle, where there’s a notch similar to the lock-open notching for a HK charging handle. I suspect that the user can push the follower forward and lock it to the side. This means you don’t have to push against the magazine spring as you load shells. The advantage? I don’t know, but it’s neat.
What’s up with sights? It looks like it’s ready for Camp Perry.
Love that video of the guy firing this thing, when it runs dry he seems to be unsure whether he ran out of shells or if it jammed on him. He also seems to be not all that up on his firearm safety since he had his finger on the trigger for pretty much the entire video, from before he started to fire to when he was checking to see if it was empty or jammed. Lucky for him that it seemed to have run dry otherwise he ran the risk of shooting his foot off trying to clear a jam.
Cut the stock, hand grip and trigger off and make function with an AR-15 lower and I would buy one.
Thomas said:
“now a semi auto bullpup 12 gauge would be great….so any one know how much it will be?”
About as much as finding a nice used Remmington 105CTi, getting a decent smith to fix the problems and stuff it in a bullpup shell.
So it’s bulkier, larger, heavier, and most likely more expensive than a 100% made in the USA product with a lifetime warranty…
WHERE DO I SIGN UP!
And I love the cap head screws holding parts of it together!
your update say’s this beauty will be made in the USA and therefore available to us in the USA. Who’s the distributor?,What’s the pricepoint? Where can I get mine? My wife won’t need to know a thing. Guess i” put of my M1 Garand purchase for a while if anyone can get one of these in my hands before September.
now a semi auto bullpup 12 gauge would be great….so any one know how much it will be?
check this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAHUEaTN7ys
UTS in action
it IS large, i reckon some of that size is welcome if it contributes controllability.. however i don’t think its very “lefty-friendly”
I don’t usually call a gun bulky (I knew the ARX160 was much lighter than it looks), but this one definetly is!
The second picture shows Hatfield Gun Co. Des Plaines, IL under the cover. I guess that’s the importing company.
Great looking bullpup…must be a buch of girlie men posting here the don’t like it.
What is this “no comercial sales” nonsense? I clearly reads “Hatfield gun co – Des Plaines, IL” engraved on the side, so I’m assuming that’s the importer… They should do us and themselves a favor and throw in the appropriate amount of r922 parts.
I’m also curious if it was register as a NFA device if one of us undeserving citizens could have one?
after seeing the video, the gun is very large. i didn’t quite grasp that at first. i’ll take the ksg over that. i don’t need a starshiptrooper brick or whatever.
still interested about the “sporting purpose” clause
For law-abiding gunowners in the US wouldn’t it be possible to import parts kits that contain everything but the receiver & then rebuild them on US soil with the requisite 922r compliant parts?
The muzzle looks like a surprised Pinocchio.
@gunslinger No, that isn’t how it works. BATFE restricts import shotguns to ‘sporting purpose’ only. Even if the UTS-15 was identical to the KSG, the short OAL, high capacity and picatinny rails would disquality the UTS from import on the sporting grounds.
Being domestic, the KSG is not subject to any import restrictions.
@Rodger Young “Per an email I have from NeoStad the UTS-15 is the NeoStad.”
Well that explains a lot.
I’ll take one. love the look of it,so Terminator.
it looks like something that can lay down the hate!
Is it just me, or does it look like something out of a video game?
Seriously, it looks like something I’d pick up and use while playing Crysis 2 or something.
looks kinda bulky
I’d rather have the Kel-Tec
It looks intimidating and all that. I like that the KSG is a lot more compact, it uses the feed tubes to slide the foregrip along. This thing is so tall because you have the pump slide, then the barrel above that and the feed tubes above that. The UTS looks like something from Halo or Killzone, looks cool but is it really all that practical?
How much will they be imported here? pls pls pls!!!!!!!!
Here’s a video showing it being fired:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAHUEaTN7ys
Sure isn’t pretty, but still a damn nifty gun.
Wouldn’t this be much nicer as a semi-auto?
Carbon fiber, eh? Sounds expensive.
What are the numbers printed on the top? Is it a mechanical shot counter?
FYI,
One of the guys behind the Neostead (I believe it is Mr Stead) is also involved in the UTS-15 design.
Looks REALLY big.
That will certainly scare the hell out of the turkeys this spring.
Seems like it has extra height for no reason…what’s that tube below the barrel?
Not sporting…
Tell that to the home invader, that he isnt being “sporting”.
I’ll bite. I like these designs. granted, not firing one i can’t make a full comment, but still.
as for the import thing, if the KSG is here, why can’t these guys claim that it’s the same as the KSG? or is that just how the laws work here?
Some interesting bits of this shotgun:
Machine-gun like folding topcover
Ejection seems to be manually switchable left-right.
Tube selector switch is on top, which makes sense for top-feed but is a bit odd ergonomically. At least you can see at a glance which tube you’re feeding from.
Curious 3-position indicator in the last shot is curious. Does this thing have an option for a neostead-like alternating feed?
I would take this over the KSG. The ability to have it alternate between mags (and not have to worry about switching them, unless you want to) is a feature that the KSG is missing.
It’s a shame we’ll never ever be able to get this imported.
On the other hand this looks way more complicated and fiddly than the KSG.
That oughta make a great sci-fi movie prop :-p
Looks pretty angry….but somewhat bulky and ungainly in comparison to the KSG
The sights seem very high away from the barrel. I wonder how good that will work with a reddot sight, sighted in for shotgun fighting distances.
Looks heavy. Even with the carbon fiber.
Seems like a lot of over-engineering of a design (regular pump-action) that’s pretty damn good already.
Any bets that this will make it’s way into BF3?
I was about to jump out of my seat until I read the last paragraph. It looks like the SCAR, the Neostead and the Marine Pulse Rifle from ALIENS all blended together. I love the look, it is mean and down-to-business. I have heard that the KSG doesn’t have exceptionally good fit and finish. I would have sprung for one of these instead.
I guess I’m the odd man out here who would LOVE to see something like this in semi-auto.
Does anyone else think this looks like something the Helghast from the video game Killzone would have?
3 sling attachment points(!!!)
I wouldn’t mind having one of these.
Just wondering how fast it is to change the magazines.
I discovered the Neostead playing Battlefield: Bad Company, and for a while I loved the idea of it. But when it really comes down to it, does the extra ammunition validate the increase mechanical complexity?
That said, after thinking about it it seems to me that the weighting of a shotgun (especially with that much ammo) would make loading a bullpup design awkwardly balanced and hard to do under stress.
Buuuuut, I doubt law enforcement would have need to fire more than 15 shotgun rounds in a single conflict, and if they do they’re in some pretty deep trouble, so why not?
All these overbarrel dual-tube bullpup shotguns makes me wonder what’s the status on the patent for the Neostead?
Also, I think the capability of alternating between magazines is one of the reasons it’s being prohibited from consumers. I’v suspected that the KSG has to be manually switched is more for BATFE compliance than a design or engineering drawback.
I do like the ability to feed the magazine tubes without dropping the sight picture, a flaw that the break-open loading on the Neostead had and without resorting to the ejection port-feed ramp compromise of the KSG.
At a length of 27″, it is definitely outmoded by the Kel Tec KSG. Go USA!
This thing has a serious case of the uglies.
Good thing I can’t get it or else I’d have to choose
Those holes in the mag tubes remind me of the chauchat.
I got to shoot a Remington 2200 years ago at one of the SOF conventions in LV, it was a right hand and a left hand 1100 mated to one trigger and stock, and it was full auto, man that thing was a beast.
This looks superb, but I always liked the G11. The ergonomics of the G11 were described as a piece of 2X4 lumber with a pistol grip. I guess it is like the hot redhead at the end of the bar. I know I like the look, but I will know more when I can get my hands on one
Not to belabor the point, but:
It’s the consumer’s job, not the government’s, to determine sporting purpose. If I want to hunt deer, grizzlies or field mice with this monstrosity, I should be able to try.
Neat. While I normally don’t critique the look of a firearm… ouch, this doesn’t look very nice. I wonder why they went with the M16 style grip? I’ve always found there to be much more comfortable grip styles on the market.
Be interesting to see if any LEO’s like it!
On the other hand this thing makes me want a KSG even more.
the other dual magazine guys didn’t impress me, this one does! I wonder when we’ll get reviews for its performance compared to our good old 870s…
This gun just doesn’t look…natural.
Per an email I have from NeoStad the UTS-15 is the NeoStad.
thats just fine that its not being marketed to me. i dont want anything to do with that thing! i want a KSG in a bad way but not this. It looks like someone took a band saw and ripped a few guns then bolted it into a shotgun sandwich.
Woah.
Looks gnarly. I’m digging all these recent bullpup designs.