The day many thought would never arrive has finally materialized out of thin air! This week H&K finally started shipping the civilian version of the HK416 rifle. I shot it today for the first time and was impressed. It works as advertised. Easy to control and jumps right back on target. The retail price is slightly under $3000.
| Specifications | |
|---|---|
| Caliber | 5.56mm NATO |
| Barrel | 16.5" |
| Overall Length | |
| Weight | 8.6 lbs |
Meh. I’ll stick with mine that does the same shit for 800$
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0Wikipedia cites the weight of a SVT-40 (Самозарядная винтовка Токарева, образец 1940 года) as being 3.85 kg or 8.5 lb in an unloaded state. If I had to choose between an SVT-40 and a MR556 based on weight…
0 0yes it is….I do not believe that a standard di will hold up to the tolerances that a piston will and hk’s, lwrc, and pof’s tests (with gov’t officials) support this.
0 0Is it really $500 better than the most expensive Noveske? Seems hard to believe.
0 0For $3k, that better make breakfast, walk the dog and do my taxes.
0 0Piston guns are usually a pound heavier than non-piston. A 7.6lbs AR15 is about average.
0 0They have been available in Europe since sometime last year along with the MR308. It’s good to see that you guys will be getting them too.
0 0Does this still have the non standard dimension pin holes or is it interchangeable with other uppers and lowers?
0 0Does anyone know if the upper of a US-market MR556 will fit on a standard AR-15 lower and vice-versa? Or is it the same as the Euro-market version, which apparently has the takedown pins relocated to comply with local laws?
0 0If the 416 is too heavy, then you should train more…
0 02400+tax out the door for mine. Definately like it more than my scar 16 & 17 I had.
0 0I’m thinking on buying the hk416 but I can’t decide if I want to get the 416 or the Barrett rec7. I’ve shot the 416 and it is a heavy platform at 8.5 lbs unloaded but I’m overall impressed with the gun. My main concern is the magazine issue. I like drum magazines and not forsure if they will perform correctly in the 416
0 0lol and people said ACR was overpriced
0 0@Slavomir M
Your alowed to have AR in the C.R.? Who knows mabie Chechs may adopt it as there issue rilfe.
@Konrado
I agree you can buy a nice AR for far cheaper. Id still have a 416 far nore than FN crap.
@ParatrooperJj
Im ore worried if it uses standerd AR mags or dose it need expensive HK mags only.
0 0With the likes of the ACR, SCAR, and others such as the LWRC that have been out for a while now, I wonder if Hk missed out on the piston gun hype wagon by now. They do have plenty of brand name loyalists though. Only time will tell.
Also, the MSRP looks scary, but I’ve seen them being listed (and have been offered an order locally) in the $2,400 range from various dealers. Still expensive for most people however.
0 0Typical Teutonic over-engineering. It’s obvious this heavy platform makes more sense for the MR308. HK used the same concept for the USP 9. Build a .40 S&W pistol, chamber it with a less powerful round, using the same frame, to save on manufacturing cost.
At least we don’t need to fork over huge amounts of $ for mags, since Magpul E-mags are on the market now.
0 0@BWJones Nice photo. It maybe the angle but it looks like your chicken winging it (sticking your left elbow out). Tucking your elbow in will not only make you a slimmer target but also means your lees likely to pull off to the side on your trigger pull.
0 0For that money I could get an ACR Enchanced or even better: a SCAR 16S…
0 03.9 kg is a bit more than the 3.56 kg Wikipedia gives for the 16.5 inch barrel HK416. Does that include magazine and rounds, or is it a result of the retooling needed to make it a civilian-available weapon?
But yeah, still a lot heavier than many AR-15s. I wonder what the weight distribution is like.
0 0No better than the lwrc m6a3…..
0 0@Brad W
it has a heavy barrel. the piston itself weighs next to nothing.
0 0You mean shipping to USA? We have H&K MR556 here in Czech Republic for last year already. First appeared in CZ 19.1.2009 . I have to say it is nice rifle, but I like MR308 (HK 417) much much more.
0 0@ Brad
In all fairness, the rifle has a heavier and longer (16.5!) barrel compared to the standard M4-type barrel.
…then again, a comparable 16 inch SR-15E3 is about 6.75 lbs in comparison. And you save around $800 if you go with the KAC. And also, SR-15E3 is a very, very well equipped gun.
0 0Well, being the one who actually shot it in that picture, I get it. The HK MR556 is unbelievably accurate and solid. Best AR I’ve ever shot.
0 0Can they take standard AR mags or are they still bent on HK mags only?
The future of US military small arms may be here for civvies now.
0 0Holy moley! Three grand! This is a good upper end reference bar to compare offerings from FN, Bushmaster, LWRC and others. Of course we knew the HK brand is always way up there in all their products.
0 0Low recoil and smooth action? Only DI guns were supposed to be like that!! =P
Although the extra weight surely helps.
0 0Full auto carrier? Low shelf for DIAS?
0 08.6 lbs? Is that with a loaded magazine or not? Had better be loaded. Otherwise that’s pretty heavy for something only shooting a .223.
Oh and Mr. Jones get that right elbow down. You aint a bird trying to take flight are you?
0 0It’s no the piston. Thy have a very heavy barrel and VERY heavy rail.
I’m a bi confused by the article that says it’s easy to control and etc. It’s a heavy AR, it had better work like one.
For the price, yea, no thanks.
0 0Nice chicken wing…
0 0Shot a 416 (local PD rifle). No. Trigger sucked. For the money I’d rather have a S&W, RDS, a carbine course and a metric buttload of ammo.
0 0Considering the weight will increase above 10 pounds easily with optic and loaded magazine – I’d have to agree with Brad W.
Too Heavy, Too Expensive, and Too Late to the pARty.
Like everything else from H&K – high quality, but just not worth your time and money.
0 0That is kinda heavy for an AR… I mean I know pistons are heavier systems but uhm… Yeah no thanks.
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I’m thinking on buying the hk416 but I can’t decide if I want to get the 416 or the Barrett rec7. I’ve shot the 416 and it is a heavy platform at 8.5 lbs unloaded but I’m overall impressed with the gun. My main concern is the magazine issue. I like drum magazines and not forsure if they will perform correctly in the 416
2400+tax out the door for mine. Definately like it more than my scar 16 & 17 I had.
If the 416 is too heavy, then you should train more…
lol and people said ACR was overpriced
@Slavomir M
Your alowed to have AR in the C.R.? Who knows mabie Chechs may adopt it as there issue rilfe.
@Konrado
I agree you can buy a nice AR for far cheaper. Id still have a 416 far nore than FN crap.
@ParatrooperJj
Im ore worried if it uses standerd AR mags or dose it need expensive HK mags only.
Typical Teutonic over-engineering. It’s obvious this heavy platform makes more sense for the MR308. HK used the same concept for the USP 9. Build a .40 S&W pistol, chamber it with a less powerful round, using the same frame, to save on manufacturing cost.
At least we don’t need to fork over huge amounts of $ for mags, since Magpul E-mags are on the market now.
With the likes of the ACR, SCAR, and others such as the LWRC that have been out for a while now, I wonder if Hk missed out on the piston gun hype wagon by now. They do have plenty of brand name loyalists though. Only time will tell.
Also, the MSRP looks scary, but I’ve seen them being listed (and have been offered an order locally) in the $2,400 range from various dealers. Still expensive for most people however.
Does anyone know if the upper of a US-market MR556 will fit on a standard AR-15 lower and vice-versa? Or is it the same as the Euro-market version, which apparently has the takedown pins relocated to comply with local laws?
Does this still have the non standard dimension pin holes or is it interchangeable with other uppers and lowers?
yes it is….I do not believe that a standard di will hold up to the tolerances that a piston will and hk’s, lwrc, and pof’s tests (with gov’t officials) support this.
Wikipedia cites the weight of a SVT-40 (Самозарядная винтовка Токарева, образец 1940 года) as being 3.85 kg or 8.5 lb in an unloaded state. If I had to choose between an SVT-40 and a MR556 based on weight…
Meh. I’ll stick with mine that does the same shit for 800$
Is it really $500 better than the most expensive Noveske? Seems hard to believe.
For $3k, that better make breakfast, walk the dog and do my taxes.
They have been available in Europe since sometime last year along with the MR308. It’s good to see that you guys will be getting them too.
Piston guns are usually a pound heavier than non-piston. A 7.6lbs AR15 is about average.
@BWJones Nice photo. It maybe the angle but it looks like your chicken winging it (sticking your left elbow out). Tucking your elbow in will not only make you a slimmer target but also means your lees likely to pull off to the side on your trigger pull.
For that money I could get an ACR Enchanced or even better: a SCAR 16S…
8.6 lbs? Is that with a loaded magazine or not? Had better be loaded. Otherwise that’s pretty heavy for something only shooting a .223.
Oh and Mr. Jones get that right elbow down. You aint a bird trying to take flight are you?
Full auto carrier? Low shelf for DIAS?
It’s no the piston. Thy have a very heavy barrel and VERY heavy rail.
I’m a bi confused by the article that says it’s easy to control and etc. It’s a heavy AR, it had better work like one.
For the price, yea, no thanks.
Nice chicken wing…
Considering the weight will increase above 10 pounds easily with optic and loaded magazine – I’d have to agree with Brad W.
Too Heavy, Too Expensive, and Too Late to the pARty.
Like everything else from H&K – high quality, but just not worth your time and money.
Shot a 416 (local PD rifle). No. Trigger sucked. For the money I’d rather have a S&W, RDS, a carbine course and a metric buttload of ammo.
Low recoil and smooth action? Only DI guns were supposed to be like that!! =P
Although the extra weight surely helps.
Holy moley! Three grand! This is a good upper end reference bar to compare offerings from FN, Bushmaster, LWRC and others. Of course we knew the HK brand is always way up there in all their products.
@Brad W
it has a heavy barrel. the piston itself weighs next to nothing.
No better than the lwrc m6a3…..
3.9 kg is a bit more than the 3.56 kg Wikipedia gives for the 16.5 inch barrel HK416. Does that include magazine and rounds, or is it a result of the retooling needed to make it a civilian-available weapon?
But yeah, still a lot heavier than many AR-15s. I wonder what the weight distribution is like.
You mean shipping to USA? We have H&K MR556 here in Czech Republic for last year already. First appeared in CZ 19.1.2009 . I have to say it is nice rifle, but I like MR308 (HK 417) much much more.
@ Brad
In all fairness, the rifle has a heavier and longer (16.5!) barrel compared to the standard M4-type barrel.
…then again, a comparable 16 inch SR-15E3 is about 6.75 lbs in comparison. And you save around $800 if you go with the KAC. And also, SR-15E3 is a very, very well equipped gun.
Can they take standard AR mags or are they still bent on HK mags only?
The future of US military small arms may be here for civvies now.
Well, being the one who actually shot it in that picture, I get it. The HK MR556 is unbelievably accurate and solid. Best AR I’ve ever shot.
That is kinda heavy for an AR… I mean I know pistons are heavier systems but uhm… Yeah no thanks.