Long term underground ammo and gun storage

"Sir Jeff" at Survival HQ writes ...

Close to 4 years ago I placed this cache. The gun was lightly oiled and placed with a desiccant pack in a mylar pouch. The magazines were also given the same treatment in their own mylar. Ammo was packed in ziplocks with desiccant also. Then a few extra desiccants thrown on top, the seal of the ammo can greased, and it was shut. The can was wrapped in a heavy garbage bag.

There were no failures whatsoever. No rust spots or discoloration. Even all the brass looked new.

Mylar seems a good idea.

[ Many thanks to Todd for emailing me the link. ]

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  1. Heathwrote on February 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It looks like his website is now gone.

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  2. Eliwrote on December 14th, 2010 at 8:27 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Um…were is the can of spam?

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  3. Stevewrote on December 11th, 2010 at 3:56 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Hmmmm…..zombie shelter……

    Oh, you mean to hide FROM the zombies, not to live there with a bunch of them… I get it now.

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  4. Jimwrote on December 10th, 2010 at 1:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    an alternative to using nitrogen is to use O2 absorbers.. figure the size of the bag, then place the amount of absorbers in the bag.. done.. you can do the same for the rest of the cache.. so long as the containers are sealed..

    i could see if you were burying a pirate’s booty.. a pistol, a couple hundred rounds and a stale sandwich is not going to get you through a zombocalypse..

    it would be better to do this on a much larger scale.. i.e. a 20-40′ storage container with top-side access.. essentially, a zombie shelter..

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  5. Justin Griggwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:08 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Some guns are just meant to be buried.

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  6. Mr Maigowrote on December 09th, 2010 at 12:04 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Protip: Ziplog bags, they aint airtight.

    If you want to store guns long term, you can’t beat digging a hole, filling it with AK47′s then covering it up

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  7. Mattwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 11:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    When you think it’s time to bury your guns it’s probably time to dig them up.

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  8. Alanwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 10:22 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    What good is the gun buried underground really doing you?

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  9. Kyle Huffwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 9:34 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Mmm… Mylar bags for emergency storage.
    http://www.sorbentsystems.com/mylar.html

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  10. Kyle Huffwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 9:26 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Mylar is polyester. Ziploc bags, as mentioned by another commenter, are polyethylene.

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  11. Komradwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 8:36 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    interesting that the ammo appears to be loose packed, though I suppose most a cardboard bow would attract any moisture left in the bags

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  12. Martin (M)wrote on December 09th, 2010 at 7:53 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I, too, thought I saw a sandwich!

    Underground storage is perfect, because zombies don’t think to look there.

    Personally, I’d use a food-grade vacuum sealer for the ammo. They’re cheap, and would eliminate corrosion by removing the air (oxygen). I believe you could even get bags long enough for long guns.

    Another simple technique is packing everything in nitrogen. You can buy nitrogen from any welding or gas supplier. Since it’s slightly heavier than air, all you have to do is gently pour it into the container and it will displace the oxygen. I used to do it all the time with sealed electronic drawers.

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  13. davewrote on December 09th, 2010 at 5:42 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Underground is a bit of a misnomer, IMO. Still pretty impressive.

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  14. Sebastianwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 5:14 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    That looks like a sandwich to me too :) How did that last?

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  15. Arthur B. Burnettwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:58 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Greetings from Texas,
    Interesting, and good to know.

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  16. GaGatorwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:51 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Anticipating… BATFE confiscation efforts?

    Interesting quasi-political post for this blog,
    and I thank you for it.

    Robert

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  17. Jimwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I certainly wouldn’t expect there to be. Who believed that rust can get through 2/3 seals and desiccant bags?

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  18. Hudsonwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 1:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    If you are planning on doing this on a larger or more critical scale, I would suggest you equip yourself with a bottle of dry nitrogen, regulator, and hose available at your local welding supply.

    Displacing/flushing all of the air with nitrogen will greatly extend the storage life of your supplies, this does require good airtight containers, but if you are going to this much effort why take a chance.

    This is also a good idea for food storage.

    Also a heatsealer is much better than a “ziploc” bag.

    Watch out for PVC as it is chemically active.

    -Hudson

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  19. Dakotawrote on December 08th, 2010 at 11:32 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Packed ammunition and a sandwich for the apocalypse.

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  20. Anecdotalwrote on December 08th, 2010 at 8:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Is there also a sandwich in there?!?

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  21. Peterwrote on December 08th, 2010 at 7:56 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Ziploc bags are polyethylene, not Mylar.

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  1. Mattwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 11:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    When you think it’s time to bury your guns it’s probably time to dig them up.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0
  2. Mr Maigowrote on December 09th, 2010 at 12:04 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Protip: Ziplog bags, they aint airtight.

    If you want to store guns long term, you can’t beat digging a hole, filling it with AK47′s then covering it up

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  3. Alanwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 10:22 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    What good is the gun buried underground really doing you?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  4. Kyle Huffwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 9:34 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Mmm… Mylar bags for emergency storage.
    http://www.sorbentsystems.com/mylar.html

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  5. Justin Griggwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:08 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Some guns are just meant to be buried.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  6. Jimwrote on December 10th, 2010 at 1:07 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    an alternative to using nitrogen is to use O2 absorbers.. figure the size of the bag, then place the amount of absorbers in the bag.. done.. you can do the same for the rest of the cache.. so long as the containers are sealed..

    i could see if you were burying a pirate’s booty.. a pistol, a couple hundred rounds and a stale sandwich is not going to get you through a zombocalypse..

    it would be better to do this on a much larger scale.. i.e. a 20-40′ storage container with top-side access.. essentially, a zombie shelter..

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  7. Heathwrote on February 20th, 2012 at 1:20 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It looks like his website is now gone.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  8. Eliwrote on December 14th, 2010 at 8:27 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Um…were is the can of spam?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  9. Stevewrote on December 11th, 2010 at 3:56 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Hmmmm…..zombie shelter……

    Oh, you mean to hide FROM the zombies, not to live there with a bunch of them… I get it now.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  10. Kyle Huffwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 9:26 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Mylar is polyester. Ziploc bags, as mentioned by another commenter, are polyethylene.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  11. Martin (M)wrote on December 09th, 2010 at 7:53 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I, too, thought I saw a sandwich!

    Underground storage is perfect, because zombies don’t think to look there.

    Personally, I’d use a food-grade vacuum sealer for the ammo. They’re cheap, and would eliminate corrosion by removing the air (oxygen). I believe you could even get bags long enough for long guns.

    Another simple technique is packing everything in nitrogen. You can buy nitrogen from any welding or gas supplier. Since it’s slightly heavier than air, all you have to do is gently pour it into the container and it will displace the oxygen. I used to do it all the time with sealed electronic drawers.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  12. Hudsonwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 1:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    If you are planning on doing this on a larger or more critical scale, I would suggest you equip yourself with a bottle of dry nitrogen, regulator, and hose available at your local welding supply.

    Displacing/flushing all of the air with nitrogen will greatly extend the storage life of your supplies, this does require good airtight containers, but if you are going to this much effort why take a chance.

    This is also a good idea for food storage.

    Also a heatsealer is much better than a “ziploc” bag.

    Watch out for PVC as it is chemically active.

    -Hudson

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  13. Dakotawrote on December 08th, 2010 at 11:32 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Packed ammunition and a sandwich for the apocalypse.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  14. Anecdotalwrote on December 08th, 2010 at 8:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Is there also a sandwich in there?!?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  15. Jimwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I certainly wouldn’t expect there to be. Who believed that rust can get through 2/3 seals and desiccant bags?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  16. GaGatorwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:51 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Anticipating… BATFE confiscation efforts?

    Interesting quasi-political post for this blog,
    and I thank you for it.

    Robert

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  17. Peterwrote on December 08th, 2010 at 7:56 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Ziploc bags are polyethylene, not Mylar.

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  18. davewrote on December 09th, 2010 at 5:42 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Underground is a bit of a misnomer, IMO. Still pretty impressive.

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  19. Sebastianwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 5:14 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    That looks like a sandwich to me too :) How did that last?

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  20. Arthur B. Burnettwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 4:58 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Greetings from Texas,
    Interesting, and good to know.

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  21. Komradwrote on December 09th, 2010 at 8:36 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    interesting that the ammo appears to be loose packed, though I suppose most a cardboard bow would attract any moisture left in the bags

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