Interesting Photos from the Rio

Many readers kindly sent in photos from the on-going police/military operations in the Rio slums. These two photos in particular caught my eye.

This police officer is uses a 90 degree mounted EOTech. I have seen small red dot sights mounted on the side of competition rifles, but never before a large EOTech mounted like this in the field.

Thanks to William for the link.

This photo shows a tacti-cool (note forgrip) Madsen machine gun. Despite officially being retired in 2008, it looks like at least one is still in service with the Brazilian police.

Many thanks to Mark for the image.

[ Many thanks to all the readers who emailed me info about the Rio situation. ]



Steve Johnson

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  • Joe Schmoe

    That EOTech sight placement makes no sense. It should be on the right side (he looks right handed) considering you have to twist the rifle 45-90 degrees in order to view through it. Twisting the rifle to the right is a good way to hurt your wrist.

    Too much tacti-cool on that rifle for my tastes. It is just me or does he have two (!) lasers mounted on the rifle?

  • Aurelien

    The side-mounted EOTECH was quite common for SF on the early days of OIF. You dont use them as is, it’s just so you have a back up optic ready if your primary is down.

  • Alan

    He seems to have a pretty hefty scope as a primary on there too.

  • jdun1911

    The Eotech is mounted 90 degree on his scope and not on the handguard.

  • Mark

    I’m told the reason the Madsen is popular is because of the nature of the job they’re doing down there – urban combat where the size of a gun and the amount of penetration is an issue more than the long-term effects of the weight of the gun. They have HK21s as well, but they rattle and are too long in comparison to the finely machined Madsen guns – whether magazine fed is better or worse for mobility in urban combat is speculative, but that’s another difference between the two. The gun is said to be heavier than it looks, again due to the pre-WWI style of 100% machined production. Basically a case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” 🙂

  • Chicovsky
  • Rob

    Wait they only retired the Madsen in 2008? How old is that thing?!?!

  • Greg

    A Madsen gun?

  • subase

    Looks like a heavy setup. (anyone up for bullpups?)

    I also would agree with that placement, looks much more comfortable than putting on the right. Less stable (notice he’s holding the weapon by the magazine, to prevent his arm getting in the way), but quicker and less radically different than holding the weapon completely horizontal.

    Saying that, that bulky sniper scope would probably block alot of his vision view to the right in that position.

    Whatever suits the situation I guess, this guy is obviously primarily a marksmen of some sort, and CQB closer distances are secondary for him. Although in a built up area like the slums of Rio that’s hard to believe.

    A compromise in gaining speed and accuracy but at the cost of the large optic blocking some of your vision.

  • subase

    I think the fact that they are working in teams so he has constant cover and backup, and that he himself looks to be at least 45 (don’t forget he also lives in Brazil, this guy is busy busy busy) and as such is very experienced, thus having a high degree of situational awareness means that the scope blocking his vision is not such a big deal as it would be for less experienced operatives.

  • Martin (M)

    Madsens were pre-WW-I Danish LMGs. The quality of their construction and robust design is what’s kept them going for over a century, and what kept them from being mass-produced like other well known LMGs. I’m not sure of actual production numbers, but I know it was only in the very low thousands for various users, like Russia, China, Norway, and Denmark. The production run was from 1902 to 1930 (don’t quote me).

    Still, awesome to see a great gun still in action. I wonder what it’s chambered in? They came in about a dozen flavors.

  • Greetings from Texas,
    These folks get their money’s worth out of a weapon.

  • Chicovsky

    If you notice the guy with the Eotech is wearing a sunglass camera , just like this one:
    http://www.spygadgetshop.co.uk/images/spy/090610070630.jpg

    He may have made some intense footage!

    You can find some FPS footage here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL6_0al8ZXY

    • Chicovsky, well spotted!

  • Brian

    I’ve seen Aimpoint scopes mounted at a 45 degree angle for 3-gun shooting, but I’ve never seen one on the left side…

    maybe he closes his right eye to see through the EOtech?

  • Brian

    Looks like the same guy in picture 84 from Chicovsky’s link. The eotech is mounted probably to a rail on the carry handle and not to the scope or the handguard itself. With it mounted like that, I don’t think he turns his rifle at all to shoot it. He simply brings the eotech to the level of his face and shoots with it 90 degrees.

  • jdun1911

    After seeing the picture again for a closer inspection, the Eotech is mounted on the carrying handle with a special mount and not next to the scope. Still I think a micro dot would be much better than Eotech. Eotech (their non-micro version) are not light.

    http://p1.trrsf.com.br/image/get?src=http://img.terra.com.br/i/2010/11/28/1715646-0846-atm14.jpg

  • subase

    Shooting drug dealers and making youtube videos, impressive.

  • Mark

    Martin (M)

    It’s chambered in .308, according to the link to an older article about the Madsen.

  • Rijoenpial

    Hi guys,

    I have been paying a lot of attention lately to the events developping in Rio de Janeiro and I think the reason this officer of the CORE, The SWAT unit of the Civilian Police, (not to be confused it with the BOPE, which are the SWAT of the Military Police, a mix of SWAT and SPECOPS altogether) has a lot to do with their creative tactical approach to the combat in the favela environments…

    They have created a tactical combat style that enables them to fight in the favela layout (very narrow streets with lots of blind spots and poorly lit, if lit at all) and with the sights in that position, they expose their heads as little as possible in corners! If you see any videos of the BOPE and especially CORE and the Civilian Police fighting drug traffickers in the favelas, you’ll see this clearly…!

    Regarding the Madsen, I have seen videos of the Brazilian Civilian Police and CORE using it in the favelas, and it is used mainly for suppression, just like the SAW… The clip removal and installation is clearly faster than the belt one, especially with the clip installed at the top of the weapon, and I think that is one of the reasons, another important one being the caliber and its penetration/stopping power, why they still use the Madsen… In agencies that still use the FAL design, even though we are starting to see CORE guys using the G36 and the M4, the Brazilian use the weapons that they are used to and that produce results…! And the Madsen sure produces a terrifying, Mg42 sound!

    Cheers!

  • subase

    Thanks for your comment Rijoenpial and if what you say is true and it does sound logical then he could also have an Eotech on the other side the weapon!

    Saying that most of their weapon would be hanging out of the corner like a flying cat, but I guess it’s better than your head and shoulder.

  • Chortles

    *Looks at the video* How much you want to bet the ending of that will be used in 5.56 x 45 vs. 7.62 x 51 arguments?

    But that’s a very unique rig the officer has — carry handle, scope AND EOTech?

  • Rijoenpial

    Subase,

    thanks for your reply… I think the officer is using the sight in that position because he is right-handed… I don’t think this operative in particular is anticipating having to possibly resort to his support hand, hence why he’s not using the sights on both sides…! I think he is using the Eotech as a backup sight to the default iron sights, given that he is using a primary telescopic one on top of his M4! I guess this CORE operative is making sure he’s using all the sights, including laser and possibly IR as well, that he thinks he’ll need to get the job done!

    Have a great day!

    Cheers!

  • Rijoenpial

    I forgot to mention that the reason I think he’s using all that gera is because he’s contemplating all the possible scenarios, including the possibility that the mission might continue through the night as well, hence all that gear on his weapon! I don’t think the lasers are repeated, they are probably a normal one for daytime and an IR for night time with NVGs strapped on…!

    This is one prepared soldier right here, guys!

    Cheers!

  • Rijoenpial

    Hey guys,

    Here’s a video of CORE operatives in action… with the Madsen LMG in play…!

    Hope you like it!

    WARNING FOR THE WEAK OF HEART: At the end, they are carrying the body of a drug dealer to a police van! No graphic imagery, but a corpse is a corpse, even with the relatively low resolution of the video! Be warned!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZMuJOAGNm8

    Cheers!