McDonnell Douglas Scorpion

A reader email in a scan of McDonnell Douglas advertising material that promoted the McDonnell Douglas Scorpion. The scorpion was one of the entries in the US Army's Multi-Purpose Individual Munition (MPIM) competition in the 80s. This (in my opinion) ridiculous weapon weighed more than the gun it was attached to!

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It was obviously not designed by a rifleman.

[ Many thanks to Rufus for emailing me the photo. ]

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  1. jdun1911wrote on December 01st, 2010 at 11:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It’s a long time since I heard the name McDonnell Douglas.

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  2. DJwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 8:14 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Oh to think, if only Chuck Norris had this in Delta Force…

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  3. Alanwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:19 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Also, it looks slightly better than the RAW
    http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Brunswick-Riflemans-Assault-Weapon-3.jpg

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  4. Alanwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    “..Sponsored by the US Army Missile Command.”
    Ok that explains it.

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  5. Jimwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    kirk, how does the EXFOD work (or not)? Just an explosive that sits on the ground?

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  6. Clodboywrote on November 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    “Gee, that M203 turned out be a pretty good idea. Now a single soldier can provide all the explosive firepower of an M79 while being able to almost instantly switch to the role of a fully fledged rifleman. We oughta do the same for the M72 LAW.”
    “No problem. Here, we stuck this RPG-thingie to the forend of this M16. It’s got all the firepower of a LAW in a… possibly even bulkier and heavier package. But we’re pretty sure all the weight in front of the barrel might help offset muzzle climb. And just wait till you see our version of the M134 gatling gun for the M16!”
    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-%2BdmTuF3L._SS500_.jpg

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  7. Tyrone Alfonsowrote on November 30th, 2010 at 12:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @ Huan

    Actually they USED to make planes. They went under and were eventually bought out. Wonder why…

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  8. Ivanwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 7:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Huh, at first look I thought it’s M72…

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  9. Chriswrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Looks like an under-barrel LAW…

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  10. thekirkwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    When the geniuses who write the solicitations ask for the physically impossible, abortions like this result. No doubt, the original solicitation that this was designed to satisfy read something like “…the weapon will be attachable to the standard rifle…”, and this nightmare is what resulted.

    Anyone who has familiarity with the process that the US military goes through designing Infantry weapons will understand how and why this thing was produced. Hell, look at the history of some of the other “initiatives” that they’ve come up with: My favorite was the “EXFOD”, or EXplosive FOxhole Digger program. The parameters? To safely dig an instant foxhole for a single Infantryman in any soil, and within the same packaging restraints as a Claymore mine, in terms of weight and overall size.

    The Engineer School played with that fantasy for decades, and despite abject failure at it, they’ve never come even close to those parameters, and never will, until someone figures out a new class of energetic materials that are exponentially more powerful than anything we’ve got access to today.

    Crap like this weapon are just indicators that the idiots coming up with these ideas don’t have a friggin’ clue about the real world. The solicitation should have read something like “Get us through a wall relatively safely, and with something easily carried in combat. Oh, and it would be nice if it were multi-purpose…”.

    I think this thing may have resulted from someone trying to respond to a solicitation that was actually designed to procure only the Brunswick RAAWs system, now that I think about it–Which explains a lot. I don’t know why McDonnell-Douglas even tried, though.

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  11. Jimwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:21 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Also annoyingly fails to explain just how the munition is fired. Gas launched grenade?

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  12. Sianwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:00 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    to be fair, it looks like a system that is not on the gun until it is to be used, and is carried like a M-72 LAW until then. Doesn’t do much for the speed of deployment, but it looks like it simply attaches to the bayonet lug and slots back against the magwell.

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  13. zincoriumwrote on November 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I can’t imagine what made them think that was a marketable product. The ergonomics had to have been terrible, it adds a bunch of length to the front of the gun, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks to be a single shot weapon.

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  14. Burstwrote on November 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    A few pics of KAC’s aircraft designs, and my amusement would be complete.

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  15. Huanwrote on November 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It’s McDonnell Douglas not McDonald
    They make planes IIRC. and should stick to them….

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  16. Richiewrote on November 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Dang, that thing makes the OICW look pretty.
    Not to mention more comfortable lol.

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  1. Clodboywrote on November 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    “Gee, that M203 turned out be a pretty good idea. Now a single soldier can provide all the explosive firepower of an M79 while being able to almost instantly switch to the role of a fully fledged rifleman. We oughta do the same for the M72 LAW.”
    “No problem. Here, we stuck this RPG-thingie to the forend of this M16. It’s got all the firepower of a LAW in a… possibly even bulkier and heavier package. But we’re pretty sure all the weight in front of the barrel might help offset muzzle climb. And just wait till you see our version of the M134 gatling gun for the M16!”
    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-%2BdmTuF3L._SS500_.jpg

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  2. Tyrone Alfonsowrote on November 30th, 2010 at 12:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    @ Huan

    Actually they USED to make planes. They went under and were eventually bought out. Wonder why…

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  3. Jimwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 3:45 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    kirk, how does the EXFOD work (or not)? Just an explosive that sits on the ground?

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  4. Alanwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    “..Sponsored by the US Army Missile Command.”
    Ok that explains it.

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  5. jdun1911wrote on December 01st, 2010 at 11:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It’s a long time since I heard the name McDonnell Douglas.

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  6. DJwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 8:14 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Oh to think, if only Chuck Norris had this in Delta Force…

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  7. Alanwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:19 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Also, it looks slightly better than the RAW
    http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Brunswick-Riflemans-Assault-Weapon-3.jpg

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  8. Ivanwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 7:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Huh, at first look I thought it’s M72…

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  9. Chriswrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Looks like an under-barrel LAW…

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  10. Burstwrote on November 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    A few pics of KAC’s aircraft designs, and my amusement would be complete.

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  11. Huanwrote on November 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It’s McDonnell Douglas not McDonald
    They make planes IIRC. and should stick to them….

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  12. zincoriumwrote on November 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I can’t imagine what made them think that was a marketable product. The ergonomics had to have been terrible, it adds a bunch of length to the front of the gun, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks to be a single shot weapon.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  13. Sianwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:00 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    to be fair, it looks like a system that is not on the gun until it is to be used, and is carried like a M-72 LAW until then. Doesn’t do much for the speed of deployment, but it looks like it simply attaches to the bayonet lug and slots back against the magwell.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  14. thekirkwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    When the geniuses who write the solicitations ask for the physically impossible, abortions like this result. No doubt, the original solicitation that this was designed to satisfy read something like “…the weapon will be attachable to the standard rifle…”, and this nightmare is what resulted.

    Anyone who has familiarity with the process that the US military goes through designing Infantry weapons will understand how and why this thing was produced. Hell, look at the history of some of the other “initiatives” that they’ve come up with: My favorite was the “EXFOD”, or EXplosive FOxhole Digger program. The parameters? To safely dig an instant foxhole for a single Infantryman in any soil, and within the same packaging restraints as a Claymore mine, in terms of weight and overall size.

    The Engineer School played with that fantasy for decades, and despite abject failure at it, they’ve never come even close to those parameters, and never will, until someone figures out a new class of energetic materials that are exponentially more powerful than anything we’ve got access to today.

    Crap like this weapon are just indicators that the idiots coming up with these ideas don’t have a friggin’ clue about the real world. The solicitation should have read something like “Get us through a wall relatively safely, and with something easily carried in combat. Oh, and it would be nice if it were multi-purpose…”.

    I think this thing may have resulted from someone trying to respond to a solicitation that was actually designed to procure only the Brunswick RAAWs system, now that I think about it–Which explains a lot. I don’t know why McDonnell-Douglas even tried, though.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  15. Jimwrote on November 30th, 2010 at 4:21 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Also annoyingly fails to explain just how the munition is fired. Gas launched grenade?

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  16. Richiewrote on November 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Dang, that thing makes the OICW look pretty.
    Not to mention more comfortable lol.

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