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  • Pavlak

    Was it really a Ranch Hand or one of the modified Winchesters they sell?

  • Jesse

    I have no idea how this thing isn’t considered a SBR by the ATF but I’m glad that it isn’t.

  • Syphonblack

    I live in metro Atlanta and picked one up last weekend. The shop had two more in stock. (georgiagunstore.com).

    I got the 357 version for 425.00, although I have seen a few on GB going for as much as 600.

  • Mount

    Looks like there’s a handful of them (4 at the moment) on Gunbroker, all .44 Mag so far. Didn’t see anybody saying how they got ‘em.

  • Matt

    There are a few for sale on gunbroker in .44 mag.

  • Kristopher

    They aren’t Short Barreled Rifles because the receiver was never part of a rifle.

    So they can be imported and sold as pistols.

    Mossberg was doing the same for a while with shotguns … using a virgin receiver and a 10″ rifled slug barrel to make a 12 gauge caliber pistol.

  • jdun1911

    They are not SBR because they were never made as a rifle and there is no stock on them. It is considered a pistol.

    Kristopher,

    It has been ruled by the ATF that as long as the shotgun receiver is virgin or that the receiver never had a stock (Mossberg Persuader/Cruiser), you can put a barrel less then 16inch as long as the overall length is greater then 26 inch without paying AOW or SBS tax. Also your state doesn’t prohibit it.

    It is considered a pistol that shoot shotgun shell.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1077741
    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1115570

    Rossi Ranch has a single point mount?

    Anyway the Norfolk, Virginia gun show isn’t great. The last time I went there was six years or so. I think the show was closed down and somebody decided to reopen it. I didn’t like paying for parking either at the Scope.

    The Hampton gunshow is where I mostly go to. It is the largest in the area and one of the biggest in the state. Free parking also help.

    The Virginia Beach gunshow is small but I did buy a 1911 there once. It has free parking.

  • John

    I think what he meant was why the stock shaped object that protrudes from he back of the reviver isn’t considered a stock.

    I have the same question about AR-15 pistols, with buffer tubes long enought to serve as stocks.

    Not that im complaining.

  • Weapon Builder

    This pistol is extremely high on my list of “MUST HAVE” guns!

    The 357 will do quite nicely for white tail hunting under 100yds in my state’s shotgun territory!

  • Cymond

    jdun1911, that single point mount is called a saddle ring. Its obviously some kind of relic from the days when horses were a common form of transportation, but I’m not exactly sure how it was used. Maybe something similar to a pistol lanyard? My father had a pre-1900 Winchester carbine in .30 WCF with a saddle ring. As he told it, saddle rings became uncommon because saddles became uncommon, and the rings would rattle against the rifle when hunting.

  • HaveGunWillTravel

    Cymond…You ARE correct about the “saddle ring”. It was used widely by soldiers with carbines and lever-action rifles, to keep the weapon fastened to a saddle…STILL waiting for my RANCH HAND!

  • J

    so, if a carbine stock were added to one of these, it would be illegal, then?
    If so, that’s a shame, it would be very fast handling for whitetail hunting in thick woods…

  • sam heath

    Just got mine & love it. Smaller than it looks.

  • Rod

    Has anyone been able to purchase a Ranch Hand? If so, where did you purchase?

    • John Routh

      Eagle Creek – Warsaw, IN —-
      Midwest Gun Exchange – Goshen, IN

      They have them in stock.

  • Roger

    gun broker