Rumor: Colt 7.62mm rifle?
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JSwrote on September 22nd, 2010 at 12:40 am Link To Comment |
http://www.defensereview.com/colt-cm901-modular-7-62mm-nato-battle-rifle-it-exists/
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jdun1911wrote on September 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm Link To Comment |
Rijoenpial,
No one is stealing anything from FN. All AR 308 are backward compatible with 5.56 upper.
Other than saving money and for fun there is no reason for an AR 308 to use 5.56 upper.
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TCBA_Joewrote on September 21st, 2010 at 12:15 pm Link To Comment |
Rijoenpial, I’m very aware of the SCAR-H’s back compatibility.
However, it’s unique for the AR-15/10 market.
The only way I can think of making it works is via the MGI style lower, with a removable mag well. In fact, MGI was actually supposed to produce a .308 style AR magwell for their lower.
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Rijoenpialwrote on September 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am Link To Comment |
jdun1911,
I was refering to COLT itself…I too have seen many AR 308, 5.56- compatible…But not from COLT… So, in order to have that choice on the table, COLT first needed to have a 7.62 rifle before making it 5.56- compatible!
Also, I was considering the timing of the weapon itself, not the retrocompatibility thing!
The fact is that these news appear just a few months after FNH and SOCOM developed the idea to make the SCAR-H upper able to have 5.56-compatibility…
Cheers!
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David Cranewrote on September 22nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm Link To Comment |
I test-fired the CM901 on both semi-auto and full-auto about two weeks ago. It’s pretty cool.
Btw, the SCAR concept wasn’t FNH’s idea.
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Steveresponded to David Crane on September 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm Link To Comment |
David, thanks for the comment!
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jdun1911wrote on September 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm Link To Comment |
Rijoenpial,
If it is an AR 308 design it is by default backward compatible with 5.56 and every calibers that has the same length or shooter than 7.62×51. All that is require is a upper.
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David Cranewrote on September 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm Link To Comment |
My pleasure.
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Rijoenpialwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 11:42 am Link To Comment |
TCBA,
FNH-USA already has tried to ‘sell’ that idea to SOCOM regarding the SCAR-H’s backward compatibility to the 5.56 cal… So, this is no novelty at all…!
I agree that the weight could be a prob, but assuming the materials are the same (extruded aluminum) in both SCAR-L and SCAR-H upper receivers, and assuming the weight cannot get further down (8 pounds for the SCAR-H against the 7 pounds of the SCAR-L), they have to focus on getting an upper that is either polymer (like the Beretta ARX-160), lighter aluminum or a mixture of both (like the Five-seveN – polymer on the outside and steel on the inside)…
The actual prob are the inside components… I think that the F2000 had the idea: the parts that could be replaced by high-density polymer, should, in order to try to keep the weight down…
I think Colt is blatantly ‘stealing’ FNH’s idea and trying to make it sound new, when it surely is not…!
Cheers!
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Marshall Matherswrote on September 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am Link To Comment |
7.62 x what?
7.62×51 NATO would be interesting
7.62×39…. meh…. I guess that means that those folks who own 7.62×39 ARs might have another choice in magazine manufacturers…-mm
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Antonwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 4:41 am Link To Comment |
AR-15 based 7,62?
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Vitorwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 4:36 am Link To Comment |
So, it will be basically an AR-10?
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charles222wrote on September 21st, 2010 at 3:50 am Link To Comment |
Yeah, that backwards-compatible stuff does leave me scratching my head. How? You can’t fit a mag for 7.62mm into a mag well designed for 5.56mm, for obvious reasons.
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Trentwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 5:43 am Link To Comment |
Soldier Systems’ site now says 5.56 uppers. I’m pretty sure it’s impossible to fit a .308 through a 5.56 lower, but I’ve been wrong before.
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2aHawaiiwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 6:03 am Link To Comment |
Ahhh, then it must be a 7.62×39 rifle
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The Bart Manwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 10:09 am Link To Comment |
Its a JP rifle!!
http://www.jprifles.com/1.2.5_LRP07.php
With some more “tactical” dress parts.
Perfect!!!
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Big Daddywrote on September 21st, 2010 at 6:47 am Link To Comment |
SCAR wars….LMAO!!!!!
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Underwhelmedwrote on September 21st, 2010 at 6:06 am Link To Comment |
I think it is the other way around… the 7.62 lowers will be compatible with 5.56 uppers. The wider mag well would probably have inserts or be swappable to take the smaller 5.56 magazines. Or that’s how I interpret it.
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TCBA_Joewrote on September 20th, 2010 at 11:48 pm Link To Comment |
From Soldier Systems:
“Backward compatible with 5.56 lowers”.There’s some real innovation.
Here’s to hoping…
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Rijoenpial,
If it is an AR 308 design it is by default backward compatible with 5.56 and every calibers that has the same length or shooter than 7.62×51. All that is require is a upper.
My pleasure.
I test-fired the CM901 on both semi-auto and full-auto about two weeks ago. It’s pretty cool.
Btw, the SCAR concept wasn’t FNH’s idea.
David, thanks for the comment!
jdun1911,
I was refering to COLT itself…I too have seen many AR 308, 5.56- compatible…But not from COLT… So, in order to have that choice on the table, COLT first needed to have a 7.62 rifle before making it 5.56- compatible!
Also, I was considering the timing of the weapon itself, not the retrocompatibility thing!
The fact is that these news appear just a few months after FNH and SOCOM developed the idea to make the SCAR-H upper able to have 5.56-compatibility…
Cheers!
http://www.defensereview.com/colt-cm901-modular-7-62mm-nato-battle-rifle-it-exists/
Rijoenpial,
No one is stealing anything from FN. All AR 308 are backward compatible with 5.56 upper.
Other than saving money and for fun there is no reason for an AR 308 to use 5.56 upper.
Rijoenpial, I’m very aware of the SCAR-H’s back compatibility.
However, it’s unique for the AR-15/10 market.
The only way I can think of making it works is via the MGI style lower, with a removable mag well. In fact, MGI was actually supposed to produce a .308 style AR magwell for their lower.
TCBA,
FNH-USA already has tried to ‘sell’ that idea to SOCOM regarding the SCAR-H’s backward compatibility to the 5.56 cal… So, this is no novelty at all…!
I agree that the weight could be a prob, but assuming the materials are the same (extruded aluminum) in both SCAR-L and SCAR-H upper receivers, and assuming the weight cannot get further down (8 pounds for the SCAR-H against the 7 pounds of the SCAR-L), they have to focus on getting an upper that is either polymer (like the Beretta ARX-160), lighter aluminum or a mixture of both (like the Five-seveN – polymer on the outside and steel on the inside)…
The actual prob are the inside components… I think that the F2000 had the idea: the parts that could be replaced by high-density polymer, should, in order to try to keep the weight down…
I think Colt is blatantly ‘stealing’ FNH’s idea and trying to make it sound new, when it surely is not…!
Cheers!
7.62 x what?
7.62×51 NATO would be interesting
7.62×39…. meh…. I guess that means that those folks who own 7.62×39 ARs might have another choice in magazine manufacturers…
-mm
Its a JP rifle!!
http://www.jprifles.com/1.2.5_LRP07.php
With some more “tactical” dress parts.
Perfect!!!
SCAR wars….LMAO!!!!!
I think it is the other way around… the 7.62 lowers will be compatible with 5.56 uppers. The wider mag well would probably have inserts or be swappable to take the smaller 5.56 magazines. Or that’s how I interpret it.
Ahhh, then it must be a 7.62×39 rifle
Soldier Systems’ site now says 5.56 uppers. I’m pretty sure it’s impossible to fit a .308 through a 5.56 lower, but I’ve been wrong before.
AR-15 based 7,62?
So, it will be basically an AR-10?
Yeah, that backwards-compatible stuff does leave me scratching my head. How? You can’t fit a mag for 7.62mm into a mag well designed for 5.56mm, for obvious reasons.
From Soldier Systems:
“Backward compatible with 5.56 lowers”.
There’s some real innovation.
Here’s to hoping…