Just because it can be made does not mean it should

A patent has been granted for the design of a toy double barrel shotgun which produces smoke when the cartridges are ejected. The idea of giving a child a toy that produces smoke by heating oil does not appeal to me!

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  1. nerf guns for salewrote on December 31st, 2011 at 3:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

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  2. Rocket Lawnchairwrote on September 17th, 2010 at 4:55 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I seen this toy this week at wallmart. its bright orange all around.

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  3. WeaponBuilderwrote on September 14th, 2010 at 5:50 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    My old Lionel Train Set is a children’s toy that has a functioning ‘smoke stack’ based upon the same principle… A small drop of oil placed in the smoke stack, which sits just above the electric motor, which generates heat through usage) will create smoke when the oil becomes heated. A small rubber diaphram with a lever actuator then ‘pumps’ or ‘puffs’ the smoke out of the smoke stack in little clouds as it goes around the track.

    Although I only used it once, there was nothing really all that wrong with it as a children’s toy. I don’t have lung cancer, and if I DO eventually GET lung cancer, I’m NOT going to attribute that to having owned a Lionel train set…

    I think it has a lot more to do with having a mother that smoked 2+ packs of cigarettes per day while us children were essentially a ‘captive recipients’ of carcinogens in our own home. Just because the toy CAN make smoke if you put a drop of oil in it – doesn’t mean it HAS TO produce smoke. Parents or Children that don’t want to breathe the smoke can simply NOT put a drop of oil in it.

    Even if you DO put a drop of oil in it, if you later want the toy to STOP smoking, just put a drop of degreaser in there, or perhaps just let it burn out all the oil. Once it’s gone – it won’t smoke anymore.

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  4. watthefukwrote on September 13th, 2010 at 1:24 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    id rather have my Cap tommy gun, but that just me

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  5. jimwrote on September 12th, 2010 at 11:57 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    this isn’t new.. my niece had one about 4.5 years ago.. the only problem was the smell of the oil used.. it had a stink to it.. and the shotgun would have a problem ejecting the shells..

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  6. charles222wrote on September 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    haha, this reminds of the “bag o glass” unsafe toy from SNL.

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  7. Derfel Cadarnwrote on September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The air rifles of my youth produced smoke out the barrel when fired.Very realistic guns and effect,never killed anyone,never resulted in shoot outs swat teams.Alas for the good old days.

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  8. Paul Bwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Son has one. It is about 2 years old now and as I recall it is an over under. Came from China.

    Seems it needed a battery and some other stuff, but the smoke was a hit.

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  9. Fredwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 8:18 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    In my long ago youth when Lionel train sets had steam locomotives, they smoked in little puffs. How else would you know you had a steam engine? The F8 diesels simply had no character.

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  10. dtwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 6:53 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I guess that Lionel train set with the “real” smoking engine is what messed me up when I was a child.

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  11. Mehul Kamdarwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 5:16 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Agree completely with you on this – this is a disaster waiting to happen if some idiot takes one of these and shoots at someone who responde with a genuine firearm thinking that he / she is at risk.

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  12. Bryan Swrote on September 11th, 2010 at 4:41 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Ive had a number of toy trains that produced smoke.. this looks like something for those guys who want the sxs nerf guns for their nerf zombie games.

    Interesting, would be fun to give my kid.

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  13. Ryanwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 3:59 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This toy was already made and sold years ago. I played with it a lot as a child and for me, I never even felt it heat up while I was holding it. In fact, what actually caused me to throw it away was a loose wire in the speaker that zapped me every time I pulled the trigger.

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  14. DarrenSwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 2:34 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Is your aversion to this because it is a toy gun? I ask, because model railroads have been generating smoke by heating oil for generations. In the railroad engines, it’s just a few drops of oil, so there really is no risk of a child getting burned by it. The oil soaks into a heating element that is beyond the reach of even the smallest fingers.

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  15. Westwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 2:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The loading process seems overly elaborate and time consuming rendering it useless to young commandos in the field.

    I had a kick-ass toy shotgun similar to this when I was a kid. It had a nice wood stock with over-under barrels. The “shells” were plastic with metal ends where you inserted a “primer”. The cocking mechanism and breech controls all worked exactly like a real shotgun. It came with about 50 shells and a bandolier.

    The whole set-up was amazingly realistic and completely unimaginable in todays world.

    Im 35.

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  16. Justin Buistwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 1:43 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I remember having some toys that’d create smoke in a similar manner. Nothing terribly dangerous about it. The heating element doesn’t have to get very hot and the oil that it burns is a water/glycerin mixture. It’s not like there’s an open flame and a tank of kerosene in the thing.

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  17. GDwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Back when I was a kid (like, 30 years ago) I would play with a very nifty electric train set (I can’t remember the gauge/scale but it was HUGE) that my brother had gotten like 10-15 years before that (so, circa the late 60s).

    Anyway, the engine on this thing had a little smoke pot where you could put a small amount (about half a thimble) of oil and it would be heated by electricity and cause the little engine to puff out smoke. Very cool. I do recall thinking at my wise age of 12ish that heat and oil sounds like fire which does not sound safe, but again it looked cool so what did I care.

    Of course, there was never an issue with it and even if the oil ever did reach burning point there wasn’t enough fuel in the pot to be of consequence. In fact the genormous power supply and distribution this thing used was probably much more dangerous and prone to over heating to “melt the carpet” levels.

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  1. Rocket Lawnchairwrote on September 17th, 2010 at 4:55 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I seen this toy this week at wallmart. its bright orange all around.

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  2. charles222wrote on September 12th, 2010 at 10:08 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    haha, this reminds of the “bag o glass” unsafe toy from SNL.

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  3. Derfel Cadarnwrote on September 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The air rifles of my youth produced smoke out the barrel when fired.Very realistic guns and effect,never killed anyone,never resulted in shoot outs swat teams.Alas for the good old days.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  4. jimwrote on September 12th, 2010 at 11:57 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    this isn’t new.. my niece had one about 4.5 years ago.. the only problem was the smell of the oil used.. it had a stink to it.. and the shotgun would have a problem ejecting the shells..

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  5. WeaponBuilderwrote on September 14th, 2010 at 5:50 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    My old Lionel Train Set is a children’s toy that has a functioning ‘smoke stack’ based upon the same principle… A small drop of oil placed in the smoke stack, which sits just above the electric motor, which generates heat through usage) will create smoke when the oil becomes heated. A small rubber diaphram with a lever actuator then ‘pumps’ or ‘puffs’ the smoke out of the smoke stack in little clouds as it goes around the track.

    Although I only used it once, there was nothing really all that wrong with it as a children’s toy. I don’t have lung cancer, and if I DO eventually GET lung cancer, I’m NOT going to attribute that to having owned a Lionel train set…

    I think it has a lot more to do with having a mother that smoked 2+ packs of cigarettes per day while us children were essentially a ‘captive recipients’ of carcinogens in our own home. Just because the toy CAN make smoke if you put a drop of oil in it – doesn’t mean it HAS TO produce smoke. Parents or Children that don’t want to breathe the smoke can simply NOT put a drop of oil in it.

    Even if you DO put a drop of oil in it, if you later want the toy to STOP smoking, just put a drop of degreaser in there, or perhaps just let it burn out all the oil. Once it’s gone – it won’t smoke anymore.

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  6. nerf guns for salewrote on December 31st, 2011 at 3:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    hello!,I really like your writing very a lot! proportion we communicate more about your post on AOL? I need a specialist in this space to solve my problem. May be that is you! Looking ahead to look you.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  7. Paul Bwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 10:43 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Son has one. It is about 2 years old now and as I recall it is an over under. Came from China.

    Seems it needed a battery and some other stuff, but the smoke was a hit.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  8. watthefukwrote on September 13th, 2010 at 1:24 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    id rather have my Cap tommy gun, but that just me

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  9. Fredwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 8:18 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    In my long ago youth when Lionel train sets had steam locomotives, they smoked in little puffs. How else would you know you had a steam engine? The F8 diesels simply had no character.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  10. DarrenSwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 2:34 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Is your aversion to this because it is a toy gun? I ask, because model railroads have been generating smoke by heating oil for generations. In the railroad engines, it’s just a few drops of oil, so there really is no risk of a child getting burned by it. The oil soaks into a heating element that is beyond the reach of even the smallest fingers.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  11. Westwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 2:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The loading process seems overly elaborate and time consuming rendering it useless to young commandos in the field.

    I had a kick-ass toy shotgun similar to this when I was a kid. It had a nice wood stock with over-under barrels. The “shells” were plastic with metal ends where you inserted a “primer”. The cocking mechanism and breech controls all worked exactly like a real shotgun. It came with about 50 shells and a bandolier.

    The whole set-up was amazingly realistic and completely unimaginable in todays world.

    Im 35.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  12. Justin Buistwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 1:43 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I remember having some toys that’d create smoke in a similar manner. Nothing terribly dangerous about it. The heating element doesn’t have to get very hot and the oil that it burns is a water/glycerin mixture. It’s not like there’s an open flame and a tank of kerosene in the thing.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  13. Ryanwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 3:59 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This toy was already made and sold years ago. I played with it a lot as a child and for me, I never even felt it heat up while I was holding it. In fact, what actually caused me to throw it away was a loose wire in the speaker that zapped me every time I pulled the trigger.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  14. Bryan Swrote on September 11th, 2010 at 4:41 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Ive had a number of toy trains that produced smoke.. this looks like something for those guys who want the sxs nerf guns for their nerf zombie games.

    Interesting, would be fun to give my kid.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  15. dtwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 6:53 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I guess that Lionel train set with the “real” smoking engine is what messed me up when I was a child.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  16. Mehul Kamdarwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 5:16 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Agree completely with you on this – this is a disaster waiting to happen if some idiot takes one of these and shoots at someone who responde with a genuine firearm thinking that he / she is at risk.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  17. GDwrote on September 11th, 2010 at 12:46 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Back when I was a kid (like, 30 years ago) I would play with a very nifty electric train set (I can’t remember the gauge/scale but it was HUGE) that my brother had gotten like 10-15 years before that (so, circa the late 60s).

    Anyway, the engine on this thing had a little smoke pot where you could put a small amount (about half a thimble) of oil and it would be heated by electricity and cause the little engine to puff out smoke. Very cool. I do recall thinking at my wise age of 12ish that heat and oil sounds like fire which does not sound safe, but again it looked cool so what did I care.

    Of course, there was never an issue with it and even if the oil ever did reach burning point there wasn’t enough fuel in the pot to be of consequence. In fact the genormous power supply and distribution this thing used was probably much more dangerous and prone to over heating to “melt the carpet” levels.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

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