Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


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  • Thomas

    This is totally unnecessary on a lever gun firing pistol cartridges.. lol

  • http://www.advanced-armament.com Mike Smith/AAC

    Kind of looks like an integral silencer.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      Mike, thats what I thought when I first saw the photo. The Russian blogoshere is discussing it and they are all saying its a water cooling device.

  • Alan

    More of a Maxim-style water cooling shroud, eh?

  • Redchrome

    I suppose it’s possible to shoot enough to need something like this. I remember reading about a battle between the Turks and the Russians in 1886, where 30,000 Turks armed with Winchester 1876 rifles in .40-65 held off 100,000 Russians armed with single-shot rifles for 3 weeks. This demonstrated the value of superior firepower in a fairly convincing fashion and helped convince armies of the value of repeating guns.

  • Clodboy

    Wow… you can’t get any more “steampunk” than a gun that produces actual steam :D

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      Clodboy, LOL

  • Vaarok

    Battle of Plevna, yehaw. Given the propensity of leverguns to be fired until the barrels glowed red-hot because of superior rate-of-fire, I can certainly see something like this having been created for use in a defensive position, much like the Fortress Carbines the Dutch and Belgians used with the ventilated barrel shrouds.

  • viper5552

    my goodness, you would have to use that lever like superman to need such a cooling device!

  • Kyle Huff

    That seems really impractical. And unnecessary.

  • http://www.howtogetagun.ca/ HowToGetAGun

    Looks like a movie prop.

  • Maverick

    Technically, it isn’t a gatling gun style, because the barrels would rotate, and this would hinder said ability. These water jacket is best known on the vickers heavy machine gune

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      You guys are right. I mean Maxim gun water cooler.

  • Tom Stone

    If that were japanese I would guess “Sake Warmer”

  • Mountainbear

    Not just impractical. Also heavy. Once it’s filled with water… oi!

  • Mountainbear

    @Battle of Plevna: they held for three hours against a frontal assault, then the numerical superiority of the Russians crushed them. Despite even having Krupp breech loading cannons. The Russians just needed a while to get all the men there and when the normal siege routine kicked in the Ottomans were pretty much screwed and the city was eventually surrendered to the Russians, after a botched break out attempt.

  • Redchrome

    Vaarok,
    Thanks for the link. I read up on it a bit and stand substantially corrected on my facts.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plevna

    http://www.militaryrifles.com/Turkey/TurkWin.htm

    They were using M1866 Winchesters in .44 rimfire. This gun pictured above may very well be inspired by that action.

  • http://homeplace-artsstuff.blogspot.com Arthur B. Burnett

    Neat. This kind of thing is why I love this blog.

  • gunner”

    as well as the maxim gun there was the water cooled browning m1917/1917a1, that preceded the m1919a4 that i earned my pay with in a marine weapons company back in the ’50s.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Browning_machine_gun

  • Maigo

    It’s not exactly going to be doing mag dumps

  • Ram

    For those of you who have never fired black powder (the ones who think it is unnecessary) I can assure you that 17 rounds fired at the rate this gun can operate will bring up the barrel temp pretty high and pretty fast. This was in the BP era, so it makes sense as a wall mounted defense gun.

  • Chris

    Wait, are you sure its for cooling? Have you seen those pistols with the helical magazine? Like the Calico…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_M960

    Imagine a 100 shot Winchester!!!

    Load on Sunday, shoot all MONTH!

  • http://www.sassnet.com/index.php Jack

    All the commentors who say this is frivolous and unneccessary are obviously not cowboy action shooters.
    Anyone who has fired 10 rds of black powder loads through their carbine quickly knows that just 10 gets the barrel hot enough to burn flesh.
    17rds??? and continual reloading….

    Those of you ignorant on the subject are invited to use the following link

    http://www.sassnet.com/AClubs-Main-001A.php

    Locate a club near you, come out and watch a shoot. Find a shooter using BP and ask to feel the difference between a rifle barrel after 10 rds of smokeless and after 10 rds of BP.

    Otherwise, stay silent on a subject you know nothing about.

  • http://www.maldonmuseum.wordpress.com MaldonMuseum

    Is the piece of raised metal at the front of the water shroud the front sight or just a grip to get the cap off? If it is the sight, do you think it is offset on purpose or just how it came at time of photography?

  • Bill Akins

    “I have never seen this Maxim gun style water cooling on a rifle before!”

    Well, here’s another one for you. This is the convertible from either truly water cooled, to air cooled stock I built for my Ruger 10/22 rifle.
    http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,27640.0.html

  • Redchrome

    Wow, cool rifle Bill Akins. Glad to see you here. Too bad the Akins Accellerator didn’t pass ATF review in the end.

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  • Spiff

    I believe it was Hiram Maxim who took a Winchester lever action rifle and turned it into a “machine gun” back in the 1880’s…Could be that this designer had simular thoughts…
    Spif

    • Bill Akins

      Spiff, that was John Browning who did that, not Hiram Maxim. Browning put a pivoting plate in front of the barrel’s muzzle, and with a rod attached to the pivoting plate. When a round fired, it blew the pivoting plate forward which pushed rearward on the rod which operated a modified lever action. But that had nothing to do with a water jacket around the barrel. The very first gun to use a water jacket around the barrel was the crank fired Gardner gun of 1879. The Winchester shown in the above photo is likely a Turkish “one off” or one of a limited number that was made for defensive fortifications use rather than to be carried.

      • Bill Akins

        I meant to say that when the round was fired, the muzzle blast from the round blew the pivoting plate forward. The pivoting plate had a hole in it for the bullet to pass through. Just wanted to clarify that.

      • JonathanF

        Actually, Maxim’s gun used (in 1884) the same toggle-lock principle as the Winchester and the Henry/Volcanic before it, which is what Spiff was likely referring to.