NC Dept. of Labor investigates Para USA

WCNC reports ...

North Carolina investigators with the Department of Labor visited the plant last week and have been talking to current and former employees.

Before the guns are shipped out, they must be test fired. Sources say employees have complained about injuries. Also, there are complaints that the range is poorly ventilated.

A lot of gun companies seem to have had visits from Feds in recent months ...

UPDATE: It is the NC Dept. of Labour, not the US Dept of Labor.

[ Many thanks to John for emailing me the link. ]

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  1. Carlwrote on March 20th, 2010 at 12:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Bill, thanks. I’ll check with my pharmacy or doctor.

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  2. Zachg56wrote on March 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Nah, I just had one of those idiotic moments coupled with a bad mood….so in essence, I acted before I thought about what I was saying.

    In other words, I was being quite the idiot

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  3. Bill Lesterwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 10:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Carl,

    Testing is by drawing a blood sample.

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  4. Jimwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Zach I can’t fathom how you presumed they were complaining about ventilation in an outdoor range. Why are you so hasty to judge these workers, particularly out of ignorance?

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  5. Zachg56wrote on March 19th, 2010 at 2:47 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    in reply to Bill:

    yeah I mistook the type of range. I am rather wary about going to indoor ranges for those reasons mind you; but for some odd reason I started to wonder why would they talk about poor ventilation in an outdoor range, hence the OH NOES! part.

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  6. CUrobwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 1:52 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I work directly around the corner from them in pineville, nc (maybe 100yds as the crow flies). I can tell you as I have been by the unmarked building that it is an indoor range for sure. They are located in a generic commercial small brick building business park (offices up front with warehouse space in back). I can say that there is NOT any sort of exhaust fan system sticking out of roof , nor does the building look as if it was modified on the outside from it’s condition with the previous tenant.

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  7. Carlwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:54 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    How do you go about testing your lead levels?

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  8. HowToGetAGunwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:54 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    REAL Paras are made in Ontario… ;)

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  9. Bill Lesterwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 10:31 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Zach,

    Don’t be so quick to poo-poo poor range ventilation. It’s not a good idea for the casual shooter let alone an employee who is there 40+ hours a week. Back in the 1990′s I knew the manager of a state-of-the art indoor range just south of Pittsburgh, PA. I was working in a nearby business at the time and we ran into each other on a regular basis. Within a few years this guy began to develop neurological symptoms that were clearly associated with his super elevated lead levels. His desire for a family was also dashed after his sperm count went into the range that meant he was essentially sterile. All this from working less than five years in a facility that was billed as among the best and safest in America.

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  10. SpudGunwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 7:58 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    First line of the article – ‘Experts agree that Para USA makes some of the best guns on the market.’ – See, now I’m already suspicious.

    gunslinger is correct, if the range isn’t ventilated properly then inhaling lead and other dangerously toxic particles on a daily basis will definitely mess you up – even worse then licking the paint off your kid’s Made in China toys.

    Sounds to me (based on the anecdotal evidence) that this is yet another company trying to save a few bucks by putting their employees lives in danger.

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  11. The Duckwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 7:26 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    In other news Todd Jarrett’s new Company is Strike Force MFG

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  12. Lancewrote on March 19th, 2010 at 7:06 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    At leat its not the ATF again.

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  13. Counselwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 5:10 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The EPA went after developers in NC and couldn’t ‘pin’ anything on them. However, they did convince the NC DENR to use a state law to get them. While seperate jurisdictions, it may be early to say what is pushing this… For all we know, Para may need to increase training and ventilation.

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  14. Lesswrote on March 19th, 2010 at 3:17 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Ventilation is a big deal!

    Up in Illinois we shoot indoors beginning on October and lead levels for a lot of folks get pretty high if they RO, help setup/tear down. OSHA has specific lead level guidelines, so it wouldn’t surprise me if there is something to do with that…

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  15. Savagewrote on March 19th, 2010 at 2:46 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Steve,

    You bet. I enjoy your blog. Keep up the good work!

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  16. Bryan Swrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Lets not forget about the very real possibility of lead poisoning from a poorly ventilated range. Your health is not something to trivialize.

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  17. Zachg56wrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:41 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    hmm…It seems I mistook the type of range they were walking about, indoor range, yes poor ventilation is a reasonable and justifiable concern; an outdoor range on the other hand… well let’s just not go there.

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  18. gunslingerwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:19 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    i won’t be quick to judge this as an “attack on gun manufacturers”

    i do question the “injuries” at the range, they don’t go into detail so who’s to say what’s going on?

    however the poor ventilation IS a health concern. while, yes when you fire a gun, the smoke/fumes/chemicals released is no different than an open range. but the issue is in an open range, those will dissipate within the atmosphere, whereas it seems reasonable they will remain in an unventilated area.

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  19. Zachg56wrote on March 18th, 2010 at 11:31 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I say those sources are fake….or at least incredibelly dumb to say they got injured from test firing; of course you’re going to get somewhat calloused from firing so much, or if said injuries are from firing incorrectly, then it’s just pure lack of user judgement

    Poor ventilation? OH NOES!

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  20. Savagewrote on March 18th, 2010 at 11:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    In this case, according to the article, it is the North Carolina Department of Labor, not the feds, conducting the investigation.

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  1. CUrobwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 1:52 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I work directly around the corner from them in pineville, nc (maybe 100yds as the crow flies). I can tell you as I have been by the unmarked building that it is an indoor range for sure. They are located in a generic commercial small brick building business park (offices up front with warehouse space in back). I can say that there is NOT any sort of exhaust fan system sticking out of roof , nor does the building look as if it was modified on the outside from it’s condition with the previous tenant.

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  2. Carlwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:54 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    How do you go about testing your lead levels?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  3. HowToGetAGunwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:54 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    REAL Paras are made in Ontario… ;)

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  4. Bill Lesterwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 10:31 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Zach,

    Don’t be so quick to poo-poo poor range ventilation. It’s not a good idea for the casual shooter let alone an employee who is there 40+ hours a week. Back in the 1990′s I knew the manager of a state-of-the art indoor range just south of Pittsburgh, PA. I was working in a nearby business at the time and we ran into each other on a regular basis. Within a few years this guy began to develop neurological symptoms that were clearly associated with his super elevated lead levels. His desire for a family was also dashed after his sperm count went into the range that meant he was essentially sterile. All this from working less than five years in a facility that was billed as among the best and safest in America.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  5. Zachg56wrote on March 19th, 2010 at 2:47 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    in reply to Bill:

    yeah I mistook the type of range. I am rather wary about going to indoor ranges for those reasons mind you; but for some odd reason I started to wonder why would they talk about poor ventilation in an outdoor range, hence the OH NOES! part.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  6. Jimwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 4:21 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Zach I can’t fathom how you presumed they were complaining about ventilation in an outdoor range. Why are you so hasty to judge these workers, particularly out of ignorance?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  7. Carlwrote on March 20th, 2010 at 12:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Bill, thanks. I’ll check with my pharmacy or doctor.

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  8. Zachg56wrote on March 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Nah, I just had one of those idiotic moments coupled with a bad mood….so in essence, I acted before I thought about what I was saying.

    In other words, I was being quite the idiot

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  9. Bill Lesterwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 10:02 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Carl,

    Testing is by drawing a blood sample.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  10. SpudGunwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 7:58 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    First line of the article – ‘Experts agree that Para USA makes some of the best guns on the market.’ – See, now I’m already suspicious.

    gunslinger is correct, if the range isn’t ventilated properly then inhaling lead and other dangerously toxic particles on a daily basis will definitely mess you up – even worse then licking the paint off your kid’s Made in China toys.

    Sounds to me (based on the anecdotal evidence) that this is yet another company trying to save a few bucks by putting their employees lives in danger.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  11. The Duckwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 7:26 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    In other news Todd Jarrett’s new Company is Strike Force MFG

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  12. Zachg56wrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:41 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    hmm…It seems I mistook the type of range they were walking about, indoor range, yes poor ventilation is a reasonable and justifiable concern; an outdoor range on the other hand… well let’s just not go there.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  13. gunslingerwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:19 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    i won’t be quick to judge this as an “attack on gun manufacturers”

    i do question the “injuries” at the range, they don’t go into detail so who’s to say what’s going on?

    however the poor ventilation IS a health concern. while, yes when you fire a gun, the smoke/fumes/chemicals released is no different than an open range. but the issue is in an open range, those will dissipate within the atmosphere, whereas it seems reasonable they will remain in an unventilated area.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  14. Zachg56wrote on March 18th, 2010 at 11:31 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I say those sources are fake….or at least incredibelly dumb to say they got injured from test firing; of course you’re going to get somewhat calloused from firing so much, or if said injuries are from firing incorrectly, then it’s just pure lack of user judgement

    Poor ventilation? OH NOES!

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  15. Bryan Swrote on March 19th, 2010 at 12:47 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Lets not forget about the very real possibility of lead poisoning from a poorly ventilated range. Your health is not something to trivialize.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  16. Savagewrote on March 19th, 2010 at 2:46 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Steve,

    You bet. I enjoy your blog. Keep up the good work!

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  17. Lancewrote on March 19th, 2010 at 7:06 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    At leat its not the ATF again.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  18. Counselwrote on March 19th, 2010 at 5:10 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The EPA went after developers in NC and couldn’t ‘pin’ anything on them. However, they did convince the NC DENR to use a state law to get them. While seperate jurisdictions, it may be early to say what is pushing this… For all we know, Para may need to increase training and ventilation.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  19. Lesswrote on March 19th, 2010 at 3:17 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Ventilation is a big deal!

    Up in Illinois we shoot indoors beginning on October and lead levels for a lot of folks get pretty high if they RO, help setup/tear down. OSHA has specific lead level guidelines, so it wouldn’t surprise me if there is something to do with that…

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  20. Savagewrote on March 18th, 2010 at 11:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    In this case, according to the article, it is the North Carolina Department of Labor, not the feds, conducting the investigation.

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