Breast Implants Stop Bullet
NBC LA reports ...
Carranza was just a few feet away. She survived a gunshot to the chest, but the the bullet left a scar and deflated the implant.
"She's just one lucky woman," Dr. Ashkan Ghavami told the LA Times. "I saw the CT scan. The bullet fragments were millimeters from her heart and her vital organs. Had she not had the implant, she might not be alive today."
Something does not seem right about this story. I wonder if she hit by just a fragment. I would imagine that the hydrostatic shock from a bullet ripping through a gel implant would have a devastating impact on the surrounding tissue.
Gentlemen: please be considerate and don't drive away my female readers away with jokes at their expense!
[ Many thanks to jdun1911 for emailing me the link. ]
frankly, this is not surprising at all, the newer silicone gels being used in the implants has a very high surface tension, and fairly low viscosity, to allow for proper texture/feel and to prevent any of the gel from migrating through the body if the implant ruptures These two qualities are also the same as those being looked at in the liquid body armor tests. Also, depending on the size (area) of the implant, the amount of energy expended to the body would be dissipated down to fraction of the PSI that the bullet would have delivered on its own.
Under high stress situations, people tend to point shoot. In point shooting, at close ranges, you tend to hit what you were staring at.
Lance been in four gun fights. In those fights he has been shot many times.
http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1072&Itemid=39
The Miami Shoot out. The second most famous gun fight between law enforcement and two heavy armed criminals. They were shot multiple of times, outnumber 4 to 1, and was able to killed 2 FBI agents and injured five.
http://www.thegunzone.com/11april86.html
Guy got shot in the head and survive.
http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/37369379.html
22 hits, 17 in the chest and five minute after the last shot fired he expired.
http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/articles/lom/0412/the_peter_soulis_incident.html
nascar3n8fa an AR15 member got shot three times in a gun fight but able to drive back the the attacker.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=984615
His after action report.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=988015&sr=0
I could go on but you’ll get the idea.
jdun, the problem is because of graphic nature we’re never going to get more pictures. I would assume a man (if a man shot her) would be taller, and would be shooting down (at least some). I would then expect the round to hit her a bit higher, unless the shot was taken before a full sight picture. Sorry I missed your comments concerning one shot stop.
Fwd To: Wife
I don’t see how it is a bad shot. The bullet hit her in the chest.
Here the thing there is no such thing as one shot stop. It is a myth and I stated here many times.
there are so many variables in this it’s hard to really quantify if the implant really did stop the bullet.. was the implant above, or below the pectoral muscle?? how thick was the casing on the implant?? what type of round was shot?? what angle??
the thing is, the woman survived the shooting, which is what really matters..
hmmm now if they were only backed with kevlar……..
Must have been a bad shot. For me to believe that one of those could stop a bullet (any word on the size? And yes, it is a legitimate question) the round would have had to hit on or near the middle, not really where I would aim if trying to kill someone.
Ahh, breast implants saving the day!
Awesome. Try selling this concept to the wife!
Wouldn’t any large breast stop the bullet the same?
Doesn’t seem like under penetration so much as a lack of over penetration.
I guess the moral of the story is, if you’re attacked by a really fat guy, shoot controlled pairs
Female readers? LOL!
Kyle, actually there are! I wish I had more but don’t really know how to attract them.
Proof you need to have your girlfriend/wife get implants make them safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This sounds like a possible topic for Mythbusters.
How could hydrostatic shock in the gel cause damage to the tissue around it?
Jon, the shock would transfer.
Well, that’s it, I’m buying the biggest pair I can for the wife. For her safety, you know.
From the article it sounds like the implant helped to fragment and slow the bullet rather than stopping it all together.
“The bullet fragments were millimeters from her heart and her vital organs.”
Would be interesting to know the caliber.
-D
You wouldn’t believe it, but this kind of thing acutally happens all the time. It happened a few years ago in Orlando. Stripper is harassed by creepy guy in club. She complains, he gets kicked out. Later, he meets her in the parking lot and SHOOTS her in the chest (I can’t remember what caliber). She goes down, he runs away. She survives, because the bullet is deflected by her breast implant.
Breast Implants have also been shown to act as a Breast Cancer reducer, since the body’s immune system remains on a “high alert” mode trying to destroy the alien entity. I speculate that this might mean that there would be a reduced chance of infection from such an injury should medical care not be readily available. It makes one wonder about using silicon implants as a kind of permanent body armor.
Also, there’s no such thing as “Hydrostatic Shock” since liquids do not exist in stasis (static state) during such an event (moving in a wave after the impact). The proper term for this phenomena seems to be “Hydrodynamic shock”. See here: http://www.rathcoombe.net/sci-tech/ballistics/myths.html#energy
If you actually read the article, the surgeon said that the implant didn’t have any impact on stopping the bullet. Sounds like someone just trying to cash in on this adverted tragedy.
I see a new test for the Box’OTruth.
I doubt that hydrostatic shock would be much of a factor in taking a hit like the one described. Breasts are almost entirely “made” from very soft and elastic tissue resulting in the force from any shock simply dissipating in the surrounding tissue. And since there are no major blood vessels on the outside of the ribcage remote shock is similarly reduced in severity if not, as I would suspect, completely eliminated.
It’s not clear what kind of bullet it was, but it basically sounds as if the implants are reacting like a dilatant (wich viscosity increases under stress).
Wich actually doesn’t surprise me since the fluids used in the last generation silicone implants and the liquid armor research have similar properties.