This incredibably ugly (but in a good way) pistol uses Sten 9mm mag, an AK fire control group and a Luger barrel!
Lots more photos and info here.
[ Many thanks to Advocate for emailing me the link. ]
very good info Matt!
off the wall question… what if you wanted to sell it? Go through an FFL?
Would the FFL put on his/her paper work whatever serial number and ‘model’ you called it?
If that’s the case i want to transfer my “Model 1 Fart Punter” serial number 42.
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0Not sellable – not even “transferable” as a gift – since, in order to “transfer” a firearm, it must be listed as having been manufactured, and the manufacturer (you) must be licensed (i.e., have a manufacturer’s FFL).
No Federal Licensee – unless ignorant of the law, slightly deranged or both – would be willing to try to handle such a sale, serial number or not.
0 0Advocate/DaveP,
The law on homemade firearms is straightforward. As long as it is legal for you to buy it over-the-counter in your jurisdiction, it is legal for you to make it for your own personal use. No requirement for marking and no paperwork. It is a GOOD IDEA to place some kind of serial number on it so some officer doesn’t make phone calls and detain you upon finding a unnumbered firearm in your trunk.
The key to doing this is you MUST do the work yourself on the receiver. That is the part that counts. You CANNOT, MUST NOT take it to a friend to have them weld it, bend it, etc. If you do that, you and your friend have become guilty of manufacturing a firearm without the proper FFL. If you need the use of another facility to get something do, have the owner walk you through the step and make sure their hands never touch the receiver. Videotaping the process can help too.
Once the receiver is done, it’s just like any other firearm. Take the receiver to a gunsmith, a friend and so on to assemble the remaining parts on it. Or do it yourself.
The legality of home firearms always revolves around the receiver. That is the part that is considered the gun under the law.
0 0Looks like something that could be very cool in a movie!
0 0Good post.
0 0Not sellable – not even “transferable” as a gift – since, in order to “transfer” a firearm, it must be listed as having been manufactured, and the manufacturer (you) must be licensed (i.e., have a manufacturer’s FFL).
No Federal Licensee – unless ignorant of the law, slightly deranged or both – would be willing to try to handle such a sale, serial number or not.
0 0No Federal Licensee – unless ignorant of the law, slightly deranged or both – would be willing to try to handle such a sale, serial number or
0 0I wonder if as part of the budget cuts Federal level if we could just repeal much of the gun laws, The current US Supreme court is a help but repeal would be better
Win a S&W M&P 45
http://www.impactguns.com/store/get_lucky.html
0 0awesome……..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 0Also scares the crap out off the offender;)
0 0I’d make it and keep it for home defence as well as another gun of that calibre then dump it after use and blame it on the other gun. Simple, awesome home defence gun and a perfect way to say you didn’t do it. ( yes I forgot about the rifling but there could be a way around that)
0 0Aren’t those last three comments duplicates?
0 0As far as legalities go, I found this page after a little research:
http://www.savvysurvivor.com/law_research_on_home_built_firea.htm
0 0I’d like to see him shoot that thing … from a very safe distance away!
0 0CinSC: IIRC, as long as you stamp it with a serial number and inform the ATF of the fact of its existance, and it otherwise complies with the existing laws (e.g. no full-auto), you’re okay. You should be able to get more information on the gunboards though, especially those dealing with AK’s and FAL’s.
0 0Greetings from Texas,
Wild! A lilttle scarie.
0 0iMick, you are right! Changed the text to read “Sten mag”.
0 0This is kind of the same idea, a $158 .50 BMG home build.
http://community-1.webtv.net/ggiilliiee/1580050BMGFUNGUN/
0 0Is it a Sten mag? I thought sterling mags were curved, like the F1 submachine gun mags we used to carry in the M113 LRVs downunder. Man I wish I had that guys workshop….and machining skills 
0 0To iMick: While certainly innovative, I wouldn’t call his machining skills extraordinary. 
That gun sort of reminds me of my neighbors wife; functional in the sense you can tell it’s a woman (gun) but so ugly that you never want anyone to see it. 
0 0It looks like a miniture AK.
0 0I’d hate to see what happens when one of those springs breaks.
0 0ugly as sin, but i’d love to be able to say “I made a gun”.
What are the legality issues with this? are there any?
-Advocate
0 0I think I’d be a little leery of shooting that thing with those two screws that got left out. I hope they aren’t for anything important.
0 0There is not any requirement to tell the feds anything to make a homemade gun for personal use, as long as the gun is not covered by the NFA.
0 0Niiiiiice, although something about the paper towel and clean table tells me it isn’t a 3rd world mfg. I do love the external dual bolt springs. Now he just needs to make it more plasticky, slap a magpul logo somewhere and everyone will want one over night!
0 0I’ve seen fish that look like this while deep-sea fishing: a bunch of spare parts thrown together. I like it.
What’s the legal thing to do if you build a gun? Surely you would have to tell the feds, right?
0 0
awesome……..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if as part of the budget cuts Federal level if we could just repeal much of the gun laws, The current US Supreme court is a help but repeal would be better
Win a S&W M&P 45
http://www.impactguns.com/store/get_lucky.html
Also scares the crap out off the offender;)
I’d make it and keep it for home defence as well as another gun of that calibre then dump it after use and blame it on the other gun. Simple, awesome home defence gun and a perfect way to say you didn’t do it. ( yes I forgot about the rifling but there could be a way around that)
Aren’t those last three comments duplicates?
No Federal Licensee – unless ignorant of the law, slightly deranged or both – would be willing to try to handle such a sale, serial number or
Not sellable – not even “transferable” as a gift – since, in order to “transfer” a firearm, it must be listed as having been manufactured, and the manufacturer (you) must be licensed (i.e., have a manufacturer’s FFL).
No Federal Licensee – unless ignorant of the law, slightly deranged or both – would be willing to try to handle such a sale, serial number or not.
Not sellable – not even “transferable” as a gift – since, in order to “transfer” a firearm, it must be listed as having been manufactured, and the manufacturer (you) must be licensed (i.e., have a manufacturer’s FFL).
No Federal Licensee – unless ignorant of the law, slightly deranged or both – would be willing to try to handle such a sale, serial number or not.
very good info Matt!
off the wall question… what if you wanted to sell it? Go through an FFL?
Would the FFL put on his/her paper work whatever serial number and ‘model’ you called it?
If that’s the case i want to transfer my “Model 1 Fart Punter” serial number 42.
Advocate/DaveP,
The law on homemade firearms is straightforward. As long as it is legal for you to buy it over-the-counter in your jurisdiction, it is legal for you to make it for your own personal use. No requirement for marking and no paperwork. It is a GOOD IDEA to place some kind of serial number on it so some officer doesn’t make phone calls and detain you upon finding a unnumbered firearm in your trunk.
The key to doing this is you MUST do the work yourself on the receiver. That is the part that counts. You CANNOT, MUST NOT take it to a friend to have them weld it, bend it, etc. If you do that, you and your friend have become guilty of manufacturing a firearm without the proper FFL. If you need the use of another facility to get something do, have the owner walk you through the step and make sure their hands never touch the receiver. Videotaping the process can help too.
Once the receiver is done, it’s just like any other firearm. Take the receiver to a gunsmith, a friend and so on to assemble the remaining parts on it. Or do it yourself.
The legality of home firearms always revolves around the receiver. That is the part that is considered the gun under the law.
Looks like something that could be very cool in a movie!
Good post.
As far as legalities go, I found this page after a little research:
http://www.savvysurvivor.com/law_research_on_home_built_firea.htm
I’d like to see him shoot that thing … from a very safe distance away!
ugly as sin, but i’d love to be able to say “I made a gun”.
What are the legality issues with this? are there any?
-Advocate
I’d hate to see what happens when one of those springs breaks.
I think I’d be a little leery of shooting that thing with those two screws that got left out.
I hope they aren’t for anything important.
There is not any requirement to tell the feds anything to make a homemade gun for personal use, as long as the gun is not covered by the NFA.
Niiiiiice, although something about the paper towel and clean table tells me it isn’t a 3rd world mfg. I do love the external dual bolt springs. Now he just needs to make it more plasticky, slap a magpul logo somewhere and everyone will want one over night!
It looks like a miniture AK.
To iMick: While certainly innovative, I wouldn’t call his machining skills extraordinary.
That gun sort of reminds me of my neighbors wife; functional in the sense you can tell it’s a woman (gun) but so ugly that you never want anyone to see it. 
Greetings from Texas,
Wild! A lilttle scarie.
CinSC: IIRC, as long as you stamp it with a serial number and inform the ATF of the fact of its existance, and it otherwise complies with the existing laws (e.g. no full-auto), you’re okay. You should be able to get more information on the gunboards though, especially those dealing with AK’s and FAL’s.
iMick, you are right! Changed the text to read “Sten mag”.
This is kind of the same idea, a $158 .50 BMG home build.
http://community-1.webtv.net/ggiilliiee/1580050BMGFUNGUN/
Is it a Sten mag? I thought sterling mags were curved, like the F1 submachine gun mags we used to carry in the M113 LRVs downunder. Man I wish I had that guys workshop….and machining skills
I’ve seen fish that look like this while deep-sea fishing: a bunch of spare parts thrown together. I like it.
What’s the legal thing to do if you build a gun? Surely you would have to tell the feds, right?